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mirage29
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posted April 25, 2021 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I listen to youtube talk-shows. There's one hosted by 4 (younger) black Americans, where they talk about 'anything' and don't care what others would say..

In the most recent talk they mentioned some of the issues in the news (Chauvin trial) and demonstrations that were happening regarding Black Lives in America.

Then (in shock to me) one of them started to cut-up and disrespect the singing of the traditional civil rights movement song, "We Shall Overcome."

Thing is, in doing this they were exposing their ignorance! THEY didn't know *their own History* that they put on false airs about. What did they think they were 'accomplishing' doing that in a show that promoted themselves, cutting-up songs from their own tradition like that? (Yep, answer? They didn't 'know'! They 'lacked' education. ..)

Story--
Back in the mid 2000s, I temporarily lived in a town on the outskirts of the 'greater-area' I live in.

The Community was going to have its First MLK-Day Walk/Parade.
I (an unmistakably white-skinned individual) joined the Walk. We ended where a Stand and Stage had been set-up.
..
Crowded together, an older black 'Politician' {known for his corruption } appeared on stage as a Celebrity.. for purpose of "photo-ops"; being pictured with the organizers for the town's 1st MLK Parade would bring his face to be associated with its inception -- but he was there hollow and empty-- completely definitely unprepared.
..
There was a moment where singing the song "We Shall Overcome" would have brought the PERFECT close for the event-- just begging to be sung! ... but no. They left songless. I tried to 'start' it, but maybe, people there turned around to see a 'white' person, and failed to PICK UP on the cue. They didn't know their History? Their Traditions?

NONE of the Event's Producers KNEW their own Traditional Heritage Songs. This was a POWERFUL MOMENT, and they blew it.

Organizers NEED to have a SOLID basic background knowledge of the history, and 'Why' they come together-- not sloppily shallowly-- but for A Strong Clear Purpose.

Know the old traditions
rich with Wisdom and Knowledge,
Bridge these All to the New.

Old campfire song says
"Make New Friends, and Keep The Old--
One is Silver and the Other Gold."


(music) A Change is Gonna Come (Sam Cooke,
[3:09] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYiN-8NSCCI


(topic) The History of We Shall Overcome
(Genie Deez, June 2015)
[8:46] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXDU3n4HTTY

UT Description:
"We Shall Overcome became the anthem for the Civil Rights Movement, thanks in part to the movement leaders, and thanks in part to artists and folk signers like Bob Dylan and Pete Seeger. But the roots of the song go way back to the Civil War and slavery."


This morning I attended online church that I've been an online member of since 2015. In the chat rooms people were promoting their Race, sending love to their black and brown brothers and sisters ~~ and I watched them, and felt so ostracized (because of my color-- YES, white IS a color).

I deeply Understand the need for the Black Community to rise up and be solidly joined with themselves, Healing from the Trauma going back 400 years to Slavery and presently into the issue with entrenched systemic injustices for the 'whole' of the Black Soul ...


Thing that they ALL need to remember is that on Selma's Bridge on Bloody Sunday, it wasn't 'just' Black blood that got spilled-- their White souled companions were 'there' WITH them, arms locked together, and bleeding too. Those partnerships, of black with white, is what contributed to civil rights and the (albeit slow) Progress made today, in our modern world society.

I condemn the ones (of my 'apparent' race) who right now (even in the chambers of USA Congress) are Bullying and PUSHING for White Supremacy to be acknowledged as a valid voice of interest in Government. HELL no.
Have some Right Discrimination.
That Evil does NO good and perpetuates HATRED.
May they be dismantled-- NOT flourish.

God Have Mercy,
With Grace, expunge that evil from the face of this Earth.

Let Light and Love and Power--
Restore US
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posted April 25, 2021 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is impossible to heal a race ravaged by the past let alone heal an individual. We just have to do our part as you did . So nice! I am sure others picked your vibe and they will manifest what you felt. If the event was outside where the sun was visible it will broadcast it to other suns. No more doing things in the dark as we humans do lol


Suffice to say, Jesus alludes to us having 2 fathers or creators. For whites it is easy to dismiss of a Black as dependent on society, useless, etc. They place value on commercial. That is the other father Jesus alludes to perhaps. While most of the blacks are very heart centered and feel discriminated in society and just gives up the fight.


Age of Aqua will not consider color of skin or sex or other things of the past age and judge based only on equivalent values being exchanged. Not eye for an eye as in the age of Fire. Kindda like what Jesus did, he sacrificed himself on the cross for the people he loved in his time. The blood he shed had a price which must be paid back. Thats how God operates in the age of Aqua. We are all being prepared for it. We will know who real Jesus is. The officer used his personal bias and executed the judgement. For once , sense didn't come to him that he must just do his part and let the democratic system we have, decide his fate.


Got interrupted sorry gotta go.
Bit busy at the moment having found a new job after 9 months.

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posted April 26, 2021 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, Phoenix! Great news that you found a job after 9 months unemployed. Wow, you must be sooo relieved! Good for you!!

Agree, about the ugly attitude with which some denigrate people who have had to rely on govt assistance in order to survive. Thank God for The Govt's compassion. Costs are WAY WAY up and going higher. There are still employers who do NOT pay their employees a 'living' wage~~ even when they are doing quite-well as a business, to the point where it's apparent that they 'should' pay a more-than-decent wage.
. .
Affordable housing has been in a "crisis" situation (in many regions) for a number of years. This country (USA) has people who live in tents on sidewalks in towns, or wooded areas. These are homeless, and still not making enough money working jobs, to be able to "afford" to rent a place.

I was pondering over things that had transpired over the past ten years. We've known that racial cultural "sensitivity" needed to arise, and seems to REALLY be happening now, after years of really tough work! For everyone, it's Happening. We're starting to see beginnings.

I was a teen when desegregation was implemented in the State I lived in. It's taken a Chiron-Age to see 'a little' result.

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr was assassinated the last time Chiron entered Aries. In the USA, we're beginning to be 'in orb' of our Chiron Aries Return, 4th House-- House of Ancestry, and deepest psychological wounds.

His Sun was Capricorn 25+ in 9th House conjunct MC. Transiting Pluto has been conjunct ON his Sun, with extraordinary sky stellium events and Eclipses TO that Sun-- more than a year.
- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/King,_Martin_Luther


I was thinking about how the Africans were kidnapped, lined up in the bottom of boats like living logs, and sailed across the Atlantic to our continent for the purpose of "making money" .. free-labor to 'work the Land'. The women were raped. Children sold. What they endured must have been SOOO SHOCKING. What a Turn in Circumstances for a NATION of People!
. .
You want to talk about the devastation of Pluto and Ceres? Forced abandonment/kidnap from their homeland, splintering shattering of families, scattered. Bowing humiliated before a harsh master. Thought to have less dignity than an animal.. human beings!!! ... Losing their Identity, their Land.. Made to work the soil here for land-owners.

They are Mighty.

The Healing of these people is found in their reclaiming identity (Chiron Aries). 'Black' Lives Matter.

I came across a video, that might add more information about what "Aquarius" might 'feel' like at its various stages of development.

You said, "Age of Aqua will not consider color of skin or sex .. " I've recently come across a philosophy called "Othering" that might fit into a practical understanding of how that could be.

Othering
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_(philosophy)

People are making the word "Awaken" seem worn now. We're getting away from the original meaning.

(Too many reviews of victims going through my head right now... I need to wrap this up. Way-way-past bedtime.)


For the Trial of Derek Chauvin in the Murder of George Floyd, those that watched the court proceedings on television saw heard and felt. With the Jury's Verdict of Murder, I could 'sense' the switch in the air. Like the mythological Sisyphus finally pushed that rock ONTO the ledge. It was something we all went through 'together' through television. What happened, was felt by All!

An energetic Change had occurred. A kind of Bond ensued.

May we become a harmonized tenderized HUMAN Race, beyond slivers and shards of wounded fractured souls.

Soul Healing

(topic) Lets Talk Aquarius with Melanie Reinhart
(Stormie Grace, Mar 16, 2021)
[1:07:15] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUtKNXrpsd4

- http://www.melaniereinhart.com/melanie/index.php

Your quote, exerpt--
"Not eye for an eye as in the age of Fire. Kindda like what Jesus did, he sacrificed himself on the cross for the people he loved in his time. The blood he shed had a price which must be paid back. ..."

The only thing we owe...
is to "Love One Another"

(music) Love One Another (GLAD, acapella, 1989/1998)
[2:32] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YbOA8Be1Hg

(music) Love One Another
(Tay Da Prince, John Legend, May 19, 2020)
[4:00] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9BK0ev3dUk

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posted April 26, 2021 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Listened to television this morning. Channel happened to be on the Today Show.

Keith Ellison is the State Attorney General, which means that he was the head of the TEAM of Criminal 'Prosecutors' that led the Jury towards a conviction of Derek Chauvin for his actions in the Murder of George Floyd.

Sun in Leo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Ellison

The Court will meet for the Sentencing part of the trial, in the (basically Leo) month of August 2021.

(topic) Keith Ellison On Derek Chauvin Sentencing:
‘Important For Us To Act Justly Not Vindictively’
(NBC TODAY Show, April 26, 2021, ~10:00 AM EDT)
[6:39] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt009UnrLZs


Paraphrased transcript.

At soundmark ~3:00 in this interview, the host-journalist began with posing Ellison this question--

Host ---
We heard that you actually "felt bad" for Derek Chauvin. How IS that?

Ellison's Response ---
I spent 16 years being a Criminal 'Defense' attorney.
I've been in jail cells talking to people accused of crimes.
..
They are Human Beings.
They have people who care about them,
and I never want to be one who loses sight of someone's Humanity, just because 'they' acted inhumanely.
It is important for us to react JUSTLY, not vindictively.
. .
Remember, there are people who care about Derek Chauvin too. He is going to have to be held accountable -- just as anyone (who did what-he-did) 'should' be. He is STILL a member of Human-Kind; and he should be treated with that Respect.

Host asks ^sm 3:50 ---
One of the things that was striking about the case, is that here.. you had George Floyd's Death, and it sparked this racial-global reckoning....
But during the course of the trial, your team didn't talk about race.
It wasn't about 'race' in that courtroom--
Why was the conscious decision made NOT to have 'race' as part of the trial?

sm^4:12
Ellison answers---
Well, the fact is that there is a Supreme Court case that says that, IF Prosecutors inject race into a case, that 'that' could be a basis for a miss-trial. So we were careful to NOT do that..

sm^4:24 ..
But in addition to that--
this is an example of what I would call 'institutional racism';
there's no 'explicit' mentioning of George Floyd's race 'by the officers.'
. .
But I believe this [is more-likely to] happen --
* to 'people of color'
* to the people who are 'unemployed'
* and [those of] 'low-income' [classes]
--
to people who have 'institutional barriers' working AGAINST them.
. .

I think there's a kind of green-lighting that says-- if we do something 'to someone no-one-cares-about', they {those actions perpetrated ON that person} don't matter.

. .
So I don't say that this is an explicit 'KKK-style' of racism-- It is more of an institutional problem--
that means that people-of-color get worst outcomes "in-general."
It's not the kind of thing one would expect to see [happen] with a 'white person of means'.
<<skip>>
sm^6:00
As "Prosecutors" we are Ministers of Justice; not 'ministers of punishment.' We believe in "Accountability," and we're going to Stand for that Principle.

end paraphrasing


I was 'impressed' by his compassionate view that approaches Derek as a human-being-- first of all. Derek made a bad decision, that inhumanely ended someone's life, over something trivial {a 'supposed' counterfeit $20 Bill-- that George-himself might not have even been aware was counterfeit}.
Derek still deserves to be treated with respect and a sense of humanity.


Full Moon in Scorpio 7.06'13" tonight, at 11:31:32 pm EDT - LL-Time

(music) Even Me
(United Voices Choir w/ Anthony Brown, *gospel*, lyrics)
[9:49] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19Y1UVhhqyI

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posted May 03, 2021 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am glad I wasn't part of that trial and had to pass my judgement
It is indeed a complex process to judge.

Nice to know some good men exists in the US courts. Trump nearly destroyed our democracy.

Every soul is unique and the combination of 3 basic nature of 4 elements (earth/fire/air/water) of the universe interacts with the our body DNA to produce our unique personality and guide our unqiue inner paths to salvation. Jesus's had to fulfill a prophecy of the old Testament and performed a blood magic to gain the trust of his disciples whom he loved including Mary and John. Some argue Jesus is not for the gentiles. I am not sure what to think of it. Is his blood that precious that billions are paid for? Anyhow, thats a argument for another day. But certainly he can inspire billions. Nothing gonna stop that till the end of earth.

Perhaps the age of Pisces (ruled by Jupiter) twisted facts and created a false religion , approx 46000 christianity sects exists today I believe. All of that false hood will shatter.
I didn't read MArtin Luthers chart because I saw a link to Astro.com . I mentioned earlier that the site doesn't account for wobble of the earth and the corrections required to see exactly planet /sun/constellation at the time of birth. I always fact check and repent (repaint lol) the actuals using Stellarium.
We have to learn the new ways and let go of false hood we experienced.

Stellarium says the age of aqua is 400 years away. It is possible in theory to make the earth wobble and perhaps some ET race could hasten it to meet their twisted purpose and fill us with knowledge with what they want us to learn. I believe in natural path. But the way things are I don't think earth can live long. We are still primitive. US had a dark history too in space. It wanted to nuke the moon once and do other crazy things in the past. Let us good people send positive vibes and heal this world doing our part.


More later.

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