posted January 05, 2021 07:41 AM            

I used to be active here at LL years ago, mostly in Asteroids. I see many familiar names still participating here. Much love to you, my old friends.

I am here sharing these teachings that I came across a few years ago and have found life-changing.

You WILL be challenged by some of the information, some of you to the point of being highly confronted. ...And a few of you may ultimately find it is the answer you have been seeking and take it and run with it, as I have.

I don't know how often I will check in here, after I post this. If anyone does post thoughtful, sincere replies after watching the entire presentation, then I would be interested in engaging.

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Overview of Divine Truth – Secrets of the Universe

(In four parts. Entire presentation is about eight hours long)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5bglLEtU-c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI1Dlc28lWQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thM2r6pBzJk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW7apqmgJMc

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Transcript of Overview of Divine Truth:

Part 1: http://www.divinetruth.com/devic/2009/20090926-1300-1 300-jesus-dt-prs-gdtrut--Secrets%20of%20the%20Universe--en-ebook.pdf

Part 2: http://www.divinetruth.com/devic/2009/20090927-1300-1 300-jesus-dt-prs-gdtrut--Secrets%20of%20the%20Universe--en-ebook.pdf

posted January 06, 2021 04:07 PM            

You helped me so much in the beginning of my registering at LL. I was incredibly SHY, and you helped me overcome-- bit by bit, by your befriending me. I used to actually be afraid to post, and had confined myself to only one thread.

You led me out and into the community by leaving links to other conversations in interesting threads-- other forums.

Took me over 6 months, but I eventually expanded my roving and posting range.

We used to be Dance Partners!
Ginger and Fred, Fred and Ginger ... we'd change 'leads'! LOL

Hoping you (and your mother) have been well!

Happy much-belated birthday, Saggi Friend!

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Personally, I'm glad that you found great Value exploring this man's ideas-- so much so that you've come back after a LONG time, in order to make a tribute thread.

Everyone deserves to 'Find' their way IN, along the Journey to Knowing God.

After that inception, you grow--
Mostly based on Direct-Relationship with God, and discovering the living inner 'Taffy of Exchange', growing stronger and deeper.

Some people connect through the intellect...
This at some point needs to settle down INTO having an inner experience. There's an igniting that occurs. One on one, inside; rather than an outer-person's leading. Needs to be INNER-- then anything an 'outer' person says would *ping* on the inside if it be truth.

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Since I was 12yo, I've been eager to read and experience different facets of other people's Relationship experiences with The Divine.

Don't know exactly why-- but today, I had to stop. I feel ultra-SATURATED in this moment.

This Jesus-author is yet-another Jesus-channeler. There are sooo many of those now-- prevalent on the youtubes.

Just like so-called christian "prophetic" channelers (from political right wing church denominations) .. who CLAIM that "JESUS" talked to them.

Over the past few years, I'd experienced online clergy/Ministers of megachurches leading entire USA networks of congregations in the malignant "prayer warfare" AGAINST the Democratic Party {who want to protect the poor, the sick, the Elderly, Children; and the working-class}, and they APPROVE of attempts at overthrowing our GOVERNMENT in a violent coup right now ----
(I've got the television on\\\?? It's frightening!!!)

These are attempting a COUP!!
Taking over Our Democratic Republic Govt?
to keep their candidate in power... thus overthrowing the Election, the Will of The People.

These Christians, these narrow dogmatic political christians, have JOINED The RANKS standing WITH EVIL Nazi groups and anarchists????

UNBELIEVABLE

omg.... STOP.
Just STOP.
STOP IT ALL...

Too much.

*~

Jovian, Thanks for the trouble you took to set-up this thread. I 'know' how much work went into setting that up.

*~

I had looked at the first dozen pages of the PDF... and had to STOP. I LOVE Jesus and have had a life-long relationship!! And this man ;claiming to channel Him??' was too much.

Anyone who WOULD channel "The REAL Jesus" -- would have an unmistakable quality WITH evidence!!

"Then if any man shall say to you,
See, here is Christ, or there;
believe it not."
- http://biblehub.com/matthew/24-23.htm

I see this man's thoughts as part of explaining "Religion" -- Religion attempts to teach us ABOUT God.

Today, January 6th, celebrates The Feast of The Epiphany--
When the Magi found Jesus.

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The (Three) Wise Men {DivDiv forum}
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000763.html
{latest posts, at this time of appearance of
Saturn-Jupiter Conjunction ... known as
The Christmas Star}
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000763-5.html

Yeshua's (Jesus) birth date (Astrology2.0)
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/242474.html

posted January 10, 2021 10:15 PM            

…Yes, …asteroid astrology still fascinates. We also had some Alice in Wonderland connections! ..Was it Marchare and Madhatter? Whiterabbit? …Amazing. We had a great time, Mirage.

…Regarding the info I posted, the man actually claims to BE Jesus.. not to channel Jesus. Yes, of course without any earnest investigation one assumes reflexively that it is a case of just another possessed, deluded soul.

As you say, you might not be in a space to consider such a thing right now, since you are saturated; and at the moment you see this as "yet another" spiritual path, preacher, etc., who is leading people essentially off a cliff.

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I always admired this ability to be so kindly considerate that you have… and a native humility that I also admire.

...I am on a search for THE Truth. And this is where it has led me. In that introductory presentation are explanations that I have never heard in all my years...for many of "the big questions" that we have. Yes, this introductory presentation includes much discussion of the outer facts of the universe, the spirit world, the metaphysical, etc. But that is just the beginning.

I have worked with this material (there are hundreds of hours of audio and video presentations he has given, over many years) for two and a half years now. It is instruction in truly healing your soul; a method to access and purge finally all the wounds, even the ones you didn't know you had—the childhood, the generational, the spiritual.—and become "like a child," the true, pure version of your soul, in the way Jesus originally expressed. You get to the root of all those old, lifelong fears and dispel them completely. You gradually learn to respond to the world not unconsciously, as dictated by your old wounds, but with clarity and love. You learn to find your true soul's desires and learn that God wants nothing less for us than to pursue those desires.

This isn't New Age magical thinking. It is real "work" on oneself. And it is an ongoing practice, of course. I am rather new on this path, still. What is being offered is a way to reach what Jesus achieved in the 1st century, and what he was trying to teach before his death—at-onement with God.

Re: "Anyone who WOULD channel "The REAL Jesus" -- would have an unmistakable quality WITH evidence!!"
I perceive that to be present in the presentation I cited. The evidence for me was initially the many explanations of spiritual mysteries that he provided, that heretofore have had no good explanations. And later, through working with the material in the many other video presentations, evidence for me is found in the real soul changes that I am experiencing, and how differently I am able to interact with others, and the genuine changes in my life. He is here not to be "religious" but to help us change… to grow towards God. —is that not what Jesus originally came for?

Yes, it did take something for me to finally post this info, because of the obvious outstanding detail, of someone claiming to be Jesus reincarnated; and to consider my own fear of being judged. …But more and more, as I integrate these teachings into my life and feel their true benefit, feel my soul actually changing, ... integrity requires that I share it with others, because it is in my heart to do so.

…Aside from my reason for posting, my heart is happy to see you here, Mirage.

posted January 10, 2021 11:40 PM            

20090620 Relationship with God – Longing (Praying) for Divine Love P1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ6A5L5hJzI

And this is him answering more material questions about his 1st century life:

20120112 Interview with Jesus – The Real Life & Purpose of Jesus P1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrf4ujYwNQo

posted January 11, 2021 04:15 AM              

I respect and trust these sources because of how much verification they have, and in the case of the former 2., how much they have helped others. Edgar Cayce and Bob Monroe are perhaps the two most influential Americans and people in general, in the non denominational, spiritual scenes.

Rosalind McKnight was a personal friend (of mine), and was one of Bob Monroe's long time volunteer Consciousness "Explorers". The Monroe Institute used to have some of her taped sessions up--not sure if they still do. She wrote a book about her experiences with Bob acting as her control in her spiritual explorations/guidance sessions. Rosie was one of those people that just emanated Light, wisdom, kindness, and positivity. A rather old Soul. If you ever read her book, Cosmic Journeys, you will see that the guidance she communicates with is very, very mature, wise, and Love attuned.

All 3 of these sources indicate that the N.T. claims are correct, that after Yeshua's body was crucified and killed and he left the physical for a couple days or so, he came back and took his physical form and converted it into a Light body that is now ageless, deathless, has no need to eat, drink, sleep ,and while he can interact in a physical like way with humans, he and his seeming form is beyond all limitations.

In addition to the above, I myself am extremely intuitive/psychic and have a very conscious relationship with my internal guidance system. I came in a hyper empath as a young child, but then I purposely/consciously honed my intuitive abilities starting at age 13 when I started to meditate, research/practice astrology, read the world religions, try to become a more loving, ethical, and positive person, etc. I'n now in my 40's and it's been quite an interesting ride so far in some ways. As I've grown in Love attunement (via a very holistic process), my perception has expanded and clarified more and more.

Besides these 3 respectable sources agreeing with the NT claims, then we have the Shroud of Turin--the single most scientifically studied and hotly debated historical artifact in existence. The mostly flax linen shroud contains a faint, photographic negative image of a man who had been brutally tortured and then crucified in the same exact manner as described in the NT in relation to Yeshua. It has been proven to be old enough and from that same Palestinian area to be the burial cloth of the historical Yeshua.

No one can explain how the image got on there, no one can replicate it precisely (or even well). The most extensive scientific examination of the shroud was done by a large team of various scientific researchers of various disciplines, whose team was called STURP and examined the shroud using almost every scientific instrument available at the time over 120 continuous hours (5 days, pretty much around the clock, though they went in shifts). After all their testing and examination (and some time of pouring over all the data collected) they came to the unanimous conclusion that the Shroud was not created by human hands i.e. was not an artistic forgery of any kind, and that how the discoloring of the mostly flax linen fibers was created was currently a mystery to them, and one they could not yet replicate/recreate. And that it accurately fits the NT account of the torture and crucifixion of Yeshua, though they do not claim that it was the burial cloth of Yeshua (because they can't definitively prove that).

To those in the know who can look past science while also considering same, it is very clearly as snap shot in space/time of Yeshua's resurrection and the energetic process that happened to convert the body matter into a pure Light form that could still interact in a physical like way with the physical. It was this energetic process that burned the image onto the shroud and why it has unusual properties.

The closest scientific replication to creating such a discoloring of flax linen fibers was done in recent times by a Italian scientific research team. They used an extremely high intensity but extremely brief burst of UV radiation to burn a similar discoloring effect on flax linen. However, it was under vacuum conditions and only a very small image/imprint area.

They are on record saying that to recreate the entire the shroud image using that method, would take more electricity than the entire world produces, in toto, at a time.

In other words, the man you have linked, and his claims are simply inaccurate. He is not Yeshua reincarnated. Yeshua has no need to "reincarnate" because except for those few days, he never really left. I suggest you read Bob Monroe's account of meeting the mysterious and transcendent "He/She" figure found in his 3rd book, "Ultimate Journeys".

Bob asked his guidance if he could meet the most mature (spiritually evolved) human living in his space/time reference. He was told sure, but it might not be what you'd expect. Indeed, he was blown away by the meeting in his OBE state (the human in question, was physically focused at the time, and Bob visited them in his OBE state).

This person let's Bob read part of its mind, and they have a telepathic conversation wherein Bob finds out that this person is some nearly 2000 years old, doesn't eat, doesn't drink, doesn't sleep, etc anymore ("Oh, I gave those up years ago"), is perfectly balanced between inner feminine and male energies, and works many different jobs around the clock from bartender, to counselor, to professor, to ambulance driver, (and more) because in their simple and humorous words, "I like people".

Ok, one can question Bob even though he was a very respectable person with a high reputation (and a very successful businessman and creative type). And even though the Edgar Cayce work is the most vast and verified psychic work in existence, one could still technically question and doubt same because once in a great while Cayce did make some errors here and there (though never about information that was repeated in different readings to my knowledge so far).

Ok, but what one can't question via "beliefs", is the Shroud of Turin and all the hard evidence for same. It is literally the most anomalous and scientifically examined historical artifact in the world ever, no questions asked. And before anyone brings up the carbon dating that was done in the 80's, that has since been debunked--primarily by chemist and long time Los Alamos National Lab employee/researcher Ray Rogers with the assistance of the wife-husband team of the Marinos.

It is better to choose holistic logic and evidence over belief and feelings. And I say this as someone with an angular Pisces South Node, very strong Jupiter and strong Neptune. Discernment, discrimination, holistic logic, and verification are extremely important grounding balances to a spiritual path and to spiritual beliefs and psychic work/attunement.

It is very possible to become overly imbalanced/polarized to an overly "right brain" type state wherein unfounded belief and the stuff of distorted fantasies take over, rather than balanced and expanded truth. Or, as one astrologer coined it, "Neptune is the Solar Systems oldest mind altering drug." Because truth is EVER logical if one fully understands and perceives it well.

This Aussie guy has zero evidence, zero proof of his claims. I see no point in sitting in judgement of him, calling him names, or the like, but that fact must be pointed out. It is his word/belief and that's it. If that is enough for you, I'd suggest that you need to work on developing better grounding, balance, discernment, and discrimination. I.e. better standards.

And just as we have malignant narcissists, sociopaths, and psychopaths in human form that try to mislead, deceive, con, manipulate us in various ways while incarnated here (I'm not saying that this guy is any of these, I'm talking very generally), so too do we have these in the nonphysical AND in at least one ET group that I directly know of (have gotten repeat and very clear guidance about).

These also try to mislead, manipulate, deceive us, and it's very important that we question and use discernment when it comes to psychic work and consciousness exploration because of these forces. Because our physical bodies and this dimension are so slow vibratory in nature, it is FAR easier for us to hook up to the likewise slow vibratory in the nonphysical and/or ET outside of us, because they are more resonant with this level and we to them.

In my own experience, communicating with Expanded Guidance is difficult in the sense that it's very hard to perceive these in a very clear and accurate manner. However, I have noticed, it is far easier to perceive and understand ghosts, negative entities, and other slower vibratory consciousnesses--again, because of the resonance principle and reaction that is in place.

There are two main ways around this issue/probable problem that I have found and have practiced for many years now.

One is to specifically intend/ask/pray to ONLY connect to/commune with the most helpful, positive, loving, spiritually mature sources, and to feel/open up to pure, universal Love while you are trying to tune in and communicate with guidance. (That and living a life of ethics, love, responsibility, positive service, etc helps one to connect more automatically to positive, Expanded Guidance levels).

The tandem practice of these two, can help a person to bypass the slow vibratory and negative entities that are ever seeking to mislead and manipulate humans.

EVEN then, I have experienced the slow vibratory and negative entities trying to sneak in here and there at times when trying to communicate with guidance. That's because, as a consciousness connected to a slow vibratory physical form, it is VERY hard to phase one's energies to a purely positive, Love attuned state to ONLY resonate with Expanded Guidance levels and very mature consciousnesses. There is almost always some "mismatch" and dissonance with those very, very fast vibratory levels, groups, and individuals while one is connected to a human form. Because of the body itself! All human bodies are rather slow vibratory in nature and tendency.

Hence, ever the need for discernment, discrimination, and testing outer sources. As someone with Virgo North Node in the 1st and Virgo Saturn in the 2nd widely square Sag Neptune, I have had to learn this lesson the hard way repeatedly. But I HAVE learned this lesson and it is one I will never forget for in the much further past, I had allowed myself to become too influenced by negative and deceptive beings. In fact, in my youth, I was almost egged/nudged into suicide because of my over psychic receptivity to psychopathic entities that were constantly whispering in my subconscious mind, "you'd be better off if you left this world. You know you want to do it. It will end the suffering" etc, etc. All lies.

In fact, it is a minor miracle that I am still here, because I did sincerely try to leave at one point and came rather close.

When I asked some very powerful and very mature Beings (like Arch Angel Michael) for some protection from negative and destructive beings, it was like a switch happened. I almost immediately felt lighter, happier, more intune, and this, along with balancing/taking care of the body physical and devoting myself to positive service to others, lifted this many years long, childhood into early adult hood suicidal depression and tendency.

What had happened was that when I first started meditating, back when 13, I didn't know about any of the above, I didn't know about asking for protection, guidance, or that there were beings out there that would be more than happy to f'ck with me etc, and essentially I opened myself up willy nilly with no guards and with a lack of necessary internal balance. I was already rather psychic and sensitive, but I opened self up at a period when my life and inner self was in turmoil, and "Like attracts and begets Like".

posted January 11, 2021 03:31 PM              

The colors we wear and are most attracted to, often say a lot about the type of energetics we are most resonating with. Quite often, preferred colors are very reflective of the strongest colors in our aura--especially in the mental "layer" which is correlates to our Soul the most deeply and directly. And this level changes more slowly and only with noticeable internal change, transformation, or devolution.

Each of the major 6 colors/wavelengths of light, are part of the Clear/White Light, which is the Source and pure Love nature and consciousness. Colors then, indicate a relative imbalance and dissonance from that original, true nature. Some colors are slower vibratory or faster vibratory than others, and it goes from red being the slowest vibratory (most ego, materialistic, and physical centered) to violet/magenta (fastest vibratory, most spiriutally and Love focused while not being yet fully attuned to Source--it is a 6th Center/Pineal gland vibration/wavelength).

In many of these videos, the man in question is wearing a dark red, scarlet-cranberry'ish color shirt. This is a rather slow vibratory color. You often find this color strong in the auras of narcissists, malignant narcissists, sociopaths, psychopaths, and/or those with deep, deep seated but intense rage. When a person has such colors very strong and/or constant in their aura, they are the type that are more capable than most of murder and other violent acts.

Astrologically, it reflects a very strong but negative attunement to Mars and/or Pluto--more to a negative/ill used Pluto as Mars is most often correlated with the more regular and lighter reds that are typically strong in the auras of those of sports figures, athletes, weight lifters, etc. I.e. people with a lot of physical energy and focus on the body and material world. They have a definite tendency to temper and anger at times, but are not the type to hold a grudge--they often flare up and get over it quick. However, this is not that type of red. This is that grudge holding, stewing, plotting revenge type of red, again, a very negative Plutonian and/or Scorpio type attunement (the faster vibratory/more positive expression of strong Pluto and/or Scorpio attunement is more of a deep but clear reddish purple).

A percentage of people that are more faster vibratory than not, and who are also energy sensitive above the average, will tend to be somewhat repulsed by such colors as they are so ego laden/oriented. There is nothing wrong with a little regular red. It is just as much part of the White Light as all the other colors. We need a little red to have a strong will and to get shite done in this world--this is the energy that helps to keep our physical body alive and vital, but this particular red that he is wearing is a very slow vibratory/negative type of red, and very interesting that supposedly Yeshua reincarnated and a spiritual "teacher" would be attracted to wearing such colors. An ego and "power" (false kind of power) color.

The truly powerful, in a spiritual way, colors are the Jupitarian and positive Pluto colors in the more royal, near violet purples and as mentioned to the deep but clear reddish purple, or in the Solar golden light--which is faster vibratory than violet and starting to approach the pure White/Clear light.

True Initiates of very fast vibration and expanded consciousness are often most attracted to the above colors and to deep, clear, and bright blues (positive Uranus, Aquarius, and/or Capricorn--different shades/tones for each of these though).

And, in watching the second video and the question of children and people experience body dsymorphia and feeling like they are of the opposite gender--his answer is COMPLETELY and TOTALLY OFF. There are perhaps some cases of attached entities influencing to that, but in most cases what is going on, is that the Spirit/Monad/Expanded self that created it's Soul self extension, mixed together a lot of lifetimes of the opposite gender to create that current Soul.

Hence, there is a strong subconscious hearkening, remembrance, and pull to that of the opposite gender of the body they are currently incarnated in.

For example, say in your Spirit/Expanded self's total human data base of previous/other human lifetimes, you have 900 female lifetimes and 100 male lifetimes, and from that pool, the Expanded self level picks say 7 lifetimes that were all incarnated in female bodies, and you mix those 7 patterns/energetics to get the newly created Soul, but then stick that Yin polarized Soul into a male body...

What is going to likely happen? It is going to tend to feel more female than male and from the very get go! It may so much, that it may want to convert to as being as much female is is possible for a male body to do.

As to why the Spirits/Expanded self level may do this? It presents some unique challenges/lessons for the incarnating Soul. Particularly social and societal challenges. It is very much a case of being different and being a black sheep. There can be a lot of growth in such experiences, because typically there is a lot of pain and hardship in such experiences.

The most disturbing and frightening thing to humans in their base tribal and Lunar mass (un) consciousness natures are those individual humans whom are truly different from the herd/crowd. We most fear and dislike what we don't understand or can't personally identify with. If we have Love and thus tolerance, then it's not big deal, but most humans are not of that consciousness attuenement. Many either secretly or overtly react negatively to those humans who are truly different and "alien" in some way.

And being a social/societal outcast can be one of the most challenging and painful experiences around. A person really has to attune to a lot of true self Love to overcome such peer pressure, judgement, and/or attacks on their ego/self image. The good news is that humanity is slowly but surely starting to move in the direction of Love, and more and more is starting to become accepted, understood, and/or at least tolerated. However, there is still much prejudice, intolerance, and lack of Love in humanity to regenerate and transform.

This "teacher" is not that perceptive or clear on this issue. With such a lack of discernment and clarity here, I wonder what else is he really off about?

This information itself is not helping you btw. Your intense focus on spirituality, trying to learn and grow, is what is helping you. Our focus and attention is what determines so much of our application and growth or not.

I have researched negative cults and the psychology of same in some depth. These ALWAYS attract well meaning, sincere, and/or even intelligent and fairly perceptive people. And there are always patterns to be noted. The bit of truth that the "teacher" may espouse here or there is the initial "hook" to get the person interested. For example, "Osho" (like his 2nd or 3rd name after his various legal troubles) talked a lot about Oneness and the like.

People latch on to these glimpses of partial truths and wisdoms.

But what is the highest truth and path? Going within and not depending on that outside of self. I talk about outer sources like Cayce, Monroe, McKnight, etc because my INTERNAL guidance has given me clear, clear messages that these were real deals and more helpful and accurate than not. However, what I actually most rely on nowadays personally, is internal guidance all in all. I talk about these external/outer sources for others benefits, because I know that people are not going to be as interested or affected by hearing about my own personal experiences and guidance messages. Bob Monroe said this, Edgar Cayce said that, etc sounds a lot more interesting than Justin experienced or says this or that. I'm pragmatic/practical in that way.

In humans is a very strong appeal and attraction to authority, reputation, etc (see the psychological experiments like the Milgram experiment). We respect things like pieces of paper denoting high education, etc. Lacking that in the spiritual world/arena, we look at things like influence, popularity, etc as a means to gauge what sources might be more true or helpful than others, etc. We have this powerful appeal/attraction to authority

But what is really going on, energetically, in these cases of negative cults and false, ego centered, destructive "teachers"? These often have hyper stimulated/active 1, 2, and 3rd Centers. They powerfully resonate with the ego and physical energies. This increases their personality magnetism/charisma above and beyond the average person.

In MANY cases, these are connecting very strongly (often times unconsciously, though sometimes consciously), to strong but negative and slow vibratory nonphysical and/or ET's. This further increases the intensity of their field and even more hyper charges their first 3 Centers/glands.

When you come upon these people, their energy overwhelms you and has the affect to powerfully resonate your own first 3 centers. If you are not centered enough in your own Soul and Spirit energies and strongly connected enough to Expanded Guidance, this can invoke a "dark attraction" to such figures. You start to allow yourself to get drawn in by their personality magnetism/charisma and almost hypnotic energies. You'll note that a lot of these folks, just like psychopaths, tend not to blink much, but have steady and intense gazes.

On the other hand, if you are unusually fast vibratory, centered, balanced, and very intune with internal, Expanded Guidance levels yourself, you will tend to feel intense repulsion to such people. You feel something very, very OFF about them.

But people that allow themselves to get drawn in by such types, gradually give over their power more and more to the "teacher", and they start to think critically and with discernment less and less. Eventually they become "brain washed" (rather it is sacral/2nd center "washed"/overpowered). You start to think and feel "My teacher is always right and can do no wrong. Everything he or she says is truth. I should not question or doubt..that is a sign of spiritual weakenss on my part" All kinds of justifications, rationalizations, etc come up.

This is very sad to see happen, and YET, it happens more than we realize. Nor does it just happen in the new age, guru systems, religion, etc, but it ALSO happens A LOT in politics and with political figures and leaders.

I've seen this happen particularly strongly with President Obama and President Trump--one a mild to mid narcissist (look at his hand writing for one, and his chart for another) and one a malignant, hard core narcissist. So many people have been completely duped and thrown off balance by these two people with their hyper charged/over active first 3 Centers.

This is why it is so important and crucial for people to go within more and more and attune/commune directly with internal guidance, rather relying and looking to this or that outer source/person so much. There are too many of these types in the world, and far, far to few real and very intune/balanced/fast vibratory teachers and figures. And people are easily manipulated and deceived. With that said, there are some real teachers here and there, but they are rare and few and far between.

And do you really think that if Yeshua re-incarnated that he would be trying to make a living off of his past/name or even tell people about this? For example, I know someone who has received multiple, very clear internal and external guidance messages that he and Edgar Cayce are part of the same Expanded self (he is not Edgar Cayce "reincarnated", though he is Edgar's Spirit's other self, Ra Ta, reincarnated).

But is he out there advertising same? Very few people even know about this side of him. He is a simple man that doesn't care much about money, status, or fame, and thus he never plans to go "public" and try to make money or a living off of this knowledge. In some ways, he is intensely private (and would prefer to be in the background). He would greatly dislike being "famous". He just quietly serves and communicates spiritual truths.

I also know another person who has received internal and external guidance messages that he is the reincarnation of the NT's John the Beloved. He has told very, very few people about this and doesn't ever plan going going public with this information. He has written and published some spiritual books, but he never talks about this side of him in same. It came up between us in a very interesting and sychronistic way. Edgar Cayce's guidance predicted that John the Beloved would reincarnate in America as a spiritual messenger. I kept getting the sense that this person I knew was possibly that figure, but I didn't say anything about it. One day, out of the seeming blue, he confided in me, my guidance keeps referring to me as "John" (not his birth name) for some reason, as well as he has had a lot of experiences with Yeshua working on his energy, giving him messages, etc. I told him what I had been thinking/feeling/intuiting and how synchronistic it was that he told me this.

Real spiritual teachers actually do not want much attention nor limelight--just enough to get their messages out and circulating among people, and they don't care much at all about money, status, etc--just enough to enable that process. They are not EGO based. They are service based.

Unawake humans care about names and fame. Spiritual guidance only cares about service and messages. Edgar Cayce's guidance often and repeatedly was asked things like, "who am I speaking to?" "Who is the source of this reading?", , etc, and repeatedly they refused to answer and saying we are the universal forces, and those that seek names and signs over the messages and verification, do so to their detriment.

(However, once in a great while, a source would identify itself. Two ArchAngels--Michael and Halaliel would sometimes come through, and Yeshua would sometimes come through, and in one unusual reading, various entities were listed off as contributing to that reading, including Lamech, Confucius, John (the beloved most likely), Ra Ta/Ra (he was known by both names in his lifetime), etc. But generally and repeatedly speaking, mum was the word. They just didn't care about or identify with human names and knew it was a limiting tendency of the human ego to attach so much significance to same.

posted January 16, 2021 03:43 AM            

Shroud of Turin , is proven false. I watched a documentary on it. All religions of the world was transformed in to commercial and economically viable ones by the earth lords. It will be hard to prove facts from fiction. Indeed Jesus may have travelled to India and learnt many things from the Himalaya yogi. Those miracles are not very important. You might argue that a true prophet is known by accuracy of his prophecy and similarly a true yogi should be known by the miracles he performs. If you want to watch miracles study Milerapa the Tibetan yogi and other ones. We are not ******** and Jesus the only son of God. The divisive principles of all religions should be abandoned in the new knowing in the age of Aqua. It is important to recognize your own divinity and starting to trust it. Many schools out there teach you to align the I with the collective We. For some singing in church makes them close to God. There is no harm. Masters are real representation of the one universal consciousness. If you have eaten them (meaning did what they did, lived as they did), etc, you too can become like him. That is the only reality of existence.

JEsus is not greater than Buddha or otherwise. These are interpretation of our own ego and beliefs.

posted January 16, 2021 07:40 PM              

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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
>>>>No one can explain how the image got on there, no one can replicate it precisely (or even well).

Shroud of Turin , is proven false. I watched a documentary on it. All religions of the world was transformed in to commercial and economically viable ones by the earth lords. It will be hard to prove facts from fiction. Indeed Jesus may have travelled to India and learnt many things from the Himalaya yogi. Those miracles are not very important. You might argue that a true prophet is known by accuracy of his prophecy and similarly a true yogi should be known by the miracles he performs. If you want to watch miracles study Milerapa the Tibetan yogi and other ones. We are not ******** and Jesus the only son of God. The divisive principles of all religions should be abandoned in the new knowing in the age of Aqua. It is important to recognize your own divinity and starting to trust it. Many schools out there teach you to align the I with the collective We. For some singing in church makes them close to God. There is no harm. Masters are real representation of the one universal consciousness. If you have eaten them (meaning did what they did, lived as they did), etc, you too can become like him. That is the only reality of existence.

JEsus is not greater than Buddha or otherwise. These are interpretation of our own ego and beliefs.

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You watched a documentary and now you're an expert on how the Shroud of Turin is "fake"...

Oh lordy, lordy, lordy.

How about some real science? A large team of diverse scientific researchers called STURP had access to the Shroud for 120 continuous hours and worked round the clock in analyzing the Shroud with pretty much every instrument available then. Then, they spent some 3 years analyzing and interpreting the various data points, and gave their final report in 1981 (the actual analysis and recording happened in 1978). This, is their verbatim conclusion of the last report. But before I share that, I will note that the 1980's carbon dating was debunked by chemist and long time Los Alamos Lab research scientist Ray Rogers (I will also share a link to his findings which have not be refuted successfully by anyone in a peer reviewed journal).

"No pigments, paints, dyes or stains have been found on the fibrils. X-ray, fluorescence and microchemistry on the fibrils preclude the possibility of paint being used as a method for creating the image. Ultra Violet and infrared evaluation confirm these studies. Computer image enhancement and analysis by a device known as a VP-8 image analyzer show that the image has unique, three-dimensional information encoded in it. Microchemical evaluation has indicated no evidence of any spices, oils, or any biochemicals known to be produced by the body in life or in death. It is clear that there has been a direct contact of the Shroud with a body, which explains certain features such as scourge marks, as well as the blood. However, while this type of contact might explain some of the features of the torso, it is totally incapable of explaining the image of the face with the high resolution that has been amply demonstrated by photography.

The basic problem from a scientific point of view is that some explanations which might be tenable from a chemical point of view, are precluded by physics. Contrariwise, certain physical explanations which may be attractive are completely precluded by the chemistry. For an adequate explanation for the image of the Shroud, one must have an explanation which is scientifically sound, from a physical, chemical, biological and medical viewpoint. At the present, this type of solution does not appear to be obtainable by the best efforts of the members of the Shroud Team. Furthermore, experiments in physics and chemistry with old linen have failed to reproduce adequately the phenomenon presented by the Shroud of Turin. The scientific concensus is that the image was produced by something which resulted in oxidation, dehydration and conjugation of the polysaccharide structure of the microfibrils of the linen itself. Such changes can be duplicated in the laboratory by certain chemical and physical processes. A similar type of change in linen can be obtained by sulfuric acid or heat. However, there are no chemical or physical methods known which can account for the totality of the image, nor can any combination of physical, chemical, biological or medical circumstances explain the image adequately.

Thus, the answer to the question of how the image was produced or what produced the image remains, now, as it has in the past, a mystery.

We can conclude for now that the Shroud image is that of a real human form of a scourged, crucified man. It is not the product of an artist. The blood stains are composed of hemoglobin and also give a positive test for serum albumin. The image is an ongoing mystery and until further chemical studies are made, perhaps by this group of scientists, or perhaps by some scientists in the future, the problem remains unsolved."

Sourced from this link: http://www.shroud.com/78conclu.htm

"Fake" huh?

This is a link to Ray Rogers published findings on vanillin content (rather severe lack of same) in the flax linen fibers proving that the shroud could easily be 2000 year or older:

I cannot yet find a free version of Ray Roger's Thermochimica Acta published article but there is this link which mentions all the pertinent points and then some: http://www.shroud.com/pdfs/stlmader1ppt.pdf

Btw, Shroud.com is run by Barrie M. Schwortz, who was one of the original photographers during the STURP investigation and happens to be a born/lifelong Jew. Interesting that a Jewish man would be one of the most staunch supporters of the Shroud most likely being the shroud of the historical Yeshua.

I'm going to be very blunt P.R., you really need to work on your discernment and discrimination. I pointed this out to you not too long ago, when you posted a museum picture of an 1700's Irishman's skeleton who had the medical condition of Giantism (usually due to pituitary tumor) and used this as "proof/evidence" that the "giants" of the bible existed. I can provide the link if you need a reminder?

I pointed out to you that 1. no, this is not proof of that, it's a totally different topic/subject and 2. what you did was misleading and a misrepresentation, and 3. the word in the bible Nephilim that is often translated as "giants" is mistranslated as such and the more accurate translation is more akin to "from great heights fallen". But, I also pointed out, that doesn't mean that the giants of old didn't exist, as indeed, there have been found ancient skeletons that were extremely large (even larger than the 1700's Irishman or people of today with Giantism).

Again this is a clear case of needing to work on discernment, discrimination, holistic logic, and accuracy of detail. We all get things wrong and correct at different times. I have no problem with that, as I and all of us make mistakes or have errors of perception. But with you, there is a chronic, repeat, more extreme pattern and if you want people to take you seriously or be credible, then it would behoove you to work on this pattern.

Truth and accuracy are important. We live in a world filled with distortions, half truths, outright lies, belief system b.s., etc, etc. Let's be part of moving the world into a more accurately truthful direction. Remember what the Teacher of teachers said, "And you will know the truth, and the truth shall set you free."

posted January 17, 2021 04:05 AM            

You have not disproved my theory on mixing those giants DNAs with earthlings? I am note sure if the science of geneticists interests you? I alluded you to the verses in the book of Enoch , a book banned from the bible. It is forbidden to study ET remains or anything they built if one is ever found. I am surprised they left Egypt intact when it comes to temples and other granite structures meticulously put together by unknown technology. People are banned from visiting some parts of Antarctica for a reason. Yet, you will know some day many VIPs has visited sites in Antarctica and quite astounded with what they find there. Some even get sick.
Humans has a much longer history on earth than believed earlier.

Faith based beliefs which controls mind is promoted openly and freely. What a shame. The pope has not yet revealed the Fatima secrets. what a shame. Damn all systems. I cringe when I find out that we spent more in finding about the moon than our deep oceans. What you find there when you go looking will shock us even more. I don't think the government owned by system lords will ever reveal. Shame on all of us to support such mind control organizations.

BTW, below is another long femur bone discovered in Italy this time. I think we should not discuss this any more unless more evidence comes to light. I did tell you that in the culture where I came from we painted Gods in blue color and the Giants were a common part of our sacred texts such as the Mahabharata. To support my theory I had to pull a image from the internet and thats what you picked up on. In a hurry I missed what the image said. I agree with you that the internet is full of sh1t and we have to be prudent. But you haven't lived the experience that I did and you are not an empath. So no point in continuing to debate and convince each other I was merely reading some posts and providing my 2 cents.
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/11/121102-gigant ism-ancient-skeleton-archaeology-history-science-rome/

posted January 17, 2021 04:37 AM            

These ETs are capable of cloning dead persons and creating holograms to meet their agenda. A fake messiah is very much on their cards. Earth has been bombarded with AI. Hence I said, to be careful of who you speak with.

posted January 18, 2021 03:05 AM              

When I was 4 years old, I remember being fully and completely open to all the energies around me, and mostly what I felt was others and the worlds' suffering. It weighed very heavily on my little heart at the time (I was very serious/intense and mature beyond my years child, so every adult that knew me as a child has told me).

So when my mom and dad started to ask me what I wanted to be when I grew up, I started telling them that I wanted to be and would be a doctor to everyone, and that I would always be there for anyone who needed someone. I didn't want to be a literal doctor, but it was the only thing in my 4 yr old vocab that related to relieving the suffering of others in an unconditional and universal sense. More specifically, my dad, a musician, and I would have these deep talks where I would talk about the need for more care and love of others in the world (apparently I was preachy even then... ).

He was very moved by our deep, spiritual talks of love and wrote a song about it called Dr. Everywhere. This is my friend and I performing my dad's song:
http://youtu.be/mg43X3A3sZI

These are the lyrics:

"I had a talk with my son, asked him when you grow up, what do you want to do, what do you want to be.

I see you draw pretty fine, even straighter than mine, you sing the songs that you hear, you got a good ear. Tell me, what's on your mind?

He said, 'Dad, I wanna be a doctor, doctor to everyone, I'll always be there, I'll be everywhere'

Dr. Everywhere, Dr. Everywhere, Dr...Everywhere..

He talked of pain in this world, all the people who hurt, 'Daddy whose gonna care, show some concern' and it brought tears to my eyes to see this four year old try and understand that we all, have so much to learn and its time we begin.

Chorus repeat"

posted January 19, 2021 06:18 AM              

But as far as Capricorn Sun's go, clearly you're not looking all that hard nor far, as Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was a Cap Sun. You might have heard of this fellow? If so, do you think that he lacked empathy? The man who constantly spoke about and worked for the brotherhood/siblinghood of humanity.. who spoke of the utmost importance of universal Love. Who put his actions and life where his mouth was, and not only talked the talk but also walked the walk. Who likely suspected/felt that he would be killed for his teachings, work, and service as he had been attacked multiple times previously, and yet STILL persisted.

posted January 20, 2021 11:56 AM            

You must be taking the weeds. You confuse sensitivity with empathy. You don't pay attention when I said Biden has a south node transiting his 10th house, which overides the star aldebaran that Trump had. He finally got sworn in as the president. It was hard earned.

Anyways, as I mentioned previously, you are my polar opposite and we do have many uncommon straits and that is meant to be experienced solely by us . Unless we both grow up to speak in the language of silence where Jesus is not greater than buddha. We are in one communion with existence .

posted January 20, 2021 03:33 PM              

That is one side of the coin of reality. We could call this the Yin side of reality. (In the human body, the Yin side of consciousness connects very strongly to the right hemisphere of the brain).

The other side of the coin is very different, and yet related to the above--we could call this the Yang side of reality (in the body, the Yang side of consciousness and perception connects very strongly to the left hemisphere of the brain). On this side, we have individuality and freewill, and how we use that freewill determines where on the vibrational spectrum of consciousness we are in the here and now. A percentage of Source's children are covering over that ultimate reality to believe in false beliefs. False beliefs lead to false perceptions as perception is VERY affected by beliefs.

In the Yang side of (temporal) reality, Yeshua is more directly/strongly attuned to the Source and pure Love, than Buddha. Not really a big deal because the one we call the Buddha is not far from where Yeshua is and will get there fully. Yeshua came here direct from the core of the Source. Buddha came from a very expanded and fast vibrational dimension/level, one of Guidance, but it was not the core of Source. I suspect it is what we call the Sun, the level of the conscious awareness of one's Higher/Expanded self.

He probably came in from a more expanded system and probably went back to a more expanded system.

I love the Buddha, and Buddha loves Yeshua and Yeshua loves him. It's all good, but why theorize when one can ask the Buddha directly how he feels and thinks about Yeshua? He is a very honest/sincere Soul with humility. If you ask him, he will tell you directly that Yeshua is currently vibrationally beyond him and that he is very inspired by Yeshua's life and example and what he attained, for Yeshua overcame the seeming power of death. But, in any case, they are brothers in service to Love and to the Whole, so again, it's all good.

In Courtney Brown Jr.'s first book, which can be found online for free on one of his sites (or use to be, haven't checked in awhile), Courtney uses remote viewing techniques to communicate with both the Buddha and Yeshua at different times. In one of these interactions, the Buddha leads Brown to Yeshua for some answers. If I'm remembering correctly, when attuning to Buddha, Courtney picked up a lot of blue, golden, and some white light. When tuning into Yeshua, it was a lot of white/clear light.

Well, that pretty much sums up everything I've been saying. Oh, btw, Brown sees Buddha as being one of the foremost leaders of the collective of positive ET groups. He in a sense, earned that place by the exemplary life he led as a human, (and as I suspect, probably came in from one of those positive ET groups).

Now, here is the interesting part, though Brown doesn't put 1 and 1 together and doesn't figure it out, Brown picked up information from communicating with Yeshua that Yeshua is the Co-Creator of this particular Universe, which is what the Edgar Cayce readings strongly hint and suggest too (that Yeshua's Spirit is). How this comes about? Yeshua and Brown are discussing the ET group known as the Grays. Yeshua says that humans must help them in their endeavors to become more balanced and complete. And then later refers to the Grays as being his children as well. "My children" is the term he uses. This clearly suggests, even though Brown didn't understand why he said it that way, that Yeshua is the Co-Creator of this Universe.

posted May 30, 2021 02:56 PM            

Don't take weeds and LSD to know the divine. It is not a permanent solution. Meditate and open your pineal gland and meet the universal consciousness as Buddha did and Yeshua and others did. The Jesus you know of is what the narrative writers wants you to believe. Nuff said. Get rid of all religious belief. As the Zen buddhists will say "Kill the buddha if you meet him on the road". Don't be the Paul of the new testament, who didn't kill Jesus whom he met on the road to Damascus lol. Perhaps he met Jesus who survived the crucifixion and was enroute to India. We know how many christians to this date has suffered because of the poisonous nature of christianity. Their soul was hijacked by those pedo priests. Please learn and grow and do not make the dragon (religion beast) powerful.

Nuff said.