posted April 14, 2008 08:21 AM              

thorshammer- was it just as much to investigate and write this as it was for me to read it?

posted April 14, 2008 01:47 PM              

I just HITS me all of a sudden and I have to go on it, like a old lady who is inspired to knit a pair of socks or hat...I just pull out the needles and start going at it. I usually know before I start that its going to be right, but also thats cause I kinda have that spidey sense when it comes to personalities and numbers.

posted April 14, 2008 09:56 PM              

you intrigue me. Hetch etu aloh, now it is finished/and so it is indeed. there is much great and amazing lore around this expression. one that i just learned today because of your insight.

thanks for that! spidey is cool and all but i am a dark knight fan. no offense to the webbed one and his senses.

one of my favorite quotes these days is "let those who have eyes to see, see and let those who have ears to listen, hear". the Great Spirit guides us is so many ways. it is one way that has been hard for me because Faith was not in vocabulary for almost my whole life. NOW i KNOW Faith but i am still ridden with wanting fact to slip in. it is the somewhat nasty side of my being:mind, the "black" spidey. rid the mind of ego and be.

i am a 12 in name, 15 in birth date and 11 in full birth number. i got lots of goings on with all that.

since you are well versed in numerology, i have been seeing 53, 53, 53 all over. yes it is 8 - destiny - but beyond that i have discovered it is the section of isiah that is the prediction of Christ, His life, death and rebirth. 53 is also the number of lunar days from passover to the pentecost.

can you elaborate at all? yes, leaves on the wind. in flight we transcend to the dimension of our past which is the Now and the future. where are things are One. i call to myS-elf, the winged one, to take me back and forth an in-between, where all that is lies in wait for those who have eyes......

many, many blessings

posted April 14, 2008 11:22 PM            

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rid the mind of ego and be.

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myS-elf13,

Welcome to LindaLand! I hope you find your place here.

If I may be so bold, I would like to ask: How do you plan on getting rid of ego?

posted April 15, 2008 08:24 AM              

the ego is all that we have experienced, pain, happiness, etc. the ego judges. the ego cries when it hurts. the ego angers when wronged. the ego holds on to the past. the ego plans for the future.

for me, i need to be here and now. i allow myS-elf to feel pain, anger, joy, love, lust, etc. but i can no longer let the ego direct my be-ing as how i act or re-act.

my past has been painful and for so long i let that eat at the core of me. i cannot let the past define me so when i am in a situation that rings close to an old pain i need to see what it is, why it is there and continue with the here and now. the ego would have me behave like it has taught the mind to behave. be immature, take things personally when they are not, judge, look at life like the cup is half empty.

so to rid the ego, this pattern of S-elf put down, i, again, let myS-elf feel what i do but instead of going into the past and going down the destructive road, i let me Be. i let the thoughts flow in. then i let flow out just as quick as they came. i do not linger on the "injustice" of me. i do not focus on the poor, pitiful feelings of why me, here we go again, whatever else is dredged up. yuck!!!!

it has been a road of much practice and patience for me. re-training the mind's path, the things that have become rote that are no longer welcome is not for wimps. it is truly letting go. LOve is. i do not know if that has answered your question. i have to wake my kids up in a few minutes so i am not allowing myS-elf to spiral into what may be a more precise answer.

i will make it back later to expound if you would like.

posted April 15, 2008 10:34 AM            

Thank you for the heartfelt response. I love to hear people's responses to our common misidentifications with form. I've observed that we each have a personal, individual response to these barriers that often keep us from the source of our true being. Some are intense while others are more passive, but all responses to the term "ego" are quite interesting.

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for me, i need to be here and now. i allow myS-elf to feel pain, anger, joy, love, lust, etc. but i can no longer let the ego direct my be-ing as how i act or re-act.

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The "here and now" is of utmost importance. I was directed to the title of a song that was playing when I was thinking about God and that title was "Remember Me as a Time of Day". I thought this was quite significant because the time of day is always where we are. Our past actions and memories have a different relationship to us than our thoughts and emotions on the future but the "Time of Day" is always now. I define the word "Day" here as a whole day and not solely as the light of the Sun. No matter what part of the Earth we are on, it will always be now and I wonder if my thoughts were directing me to think of God as Now. It makes a lot of sense if we think of the dysfunction that we often exhibit in regards to religious/spiritual beliefs and the dysfunction we often show in regards to how inefficiently we use our time in the present moment. Yet, as inefficiently as we may judge this use of time to be, there is always some underlying force/power/momentum that keeps heralding in the present moment.

One of the reasons I prodded you was because I am not wholly convinced that it is possible to rid one's self of ego. Eckhart Tolle mentions that the ego is, simply put, a misidentification with form. I think that our current state of ego suffers greatly from this misidentification, but I don't believe that Tolle's definition of ego is complete. I've noticed that there is this reaction to the word "ego" as something that must be eradicated or destroyed. Truthfully, there is nothing that we can do to that end. Our very human existence is dependent on the presence of ego and, I believe, that the future of humanity involves the embracing of ego that will develop into a metamorphosis of humanity as we know it. Everything we do is tinged with ego and not a word we utter is without it.

I think that semantics is the source of this misunderstanding because, as these are not new ideas per se, there is a sort of newness about these ideas in terms of how we communicate them. I think it's fitting to have this first conversation at LL with you, given that your handle includes the word "myS-elf". That is really what we are all talking about when we speak of these ideas. We are all learning to drop these veils we've been taught to wear. In turn, we are now facing the direction towards our true identity, a sense of "S-elf" and Spirit that is generally thought of as separate from ego. We face this path, but we cannot traverse it without what we have already learned to wear lest we completely lose ours-elves. We can only keep shedding those things of which we are capable and willing to be free of, but we must wear something in this world.

Thank you for the opportunity to express this. I am glad to have this writing with you and I hope that the exchange continues. It seems to me that almost everyone is really "on the same page" and that we simply have different ways to express what we are reading.

posted April 15, 2008 11:56 PM              

53 has been on my mind because it has shown up. my mind did not put thought into 53 and then it showed up.

since 8 is the karmic number and that of Serpent Saturn, i am sure you are right, it does have to do with ego. one of my karmic challenges is that of not fearing loss and rejection. that holds very true to me.

what is fear of rejection? the ego screaming. the mind re-member ing the pain of the past.

nosiS-

we may need to move this over to a new forum but i am not sure how to do that so back to the leggo my ego session

i have read some eckhart tolle. he has many good things to say but i, for some reason, cannot get into him. maybe it is his style. what he says, though, is told by many others so i do not feel i am at amiss by not reading his stuff.

i agree the we can never truly rid ourS-elves of ego. it is part of mind but we can down play its importance. the ego is the hold on the un-reality; there is no room for growth at the ego inn.

for within truth there is no ego. there is only what is, there is only LOve, there is only LIght. that is so much easier to preach than practice but i do my best to live this. to be home again, to reconnect with the Spirit that is me, to see clearly the veil of deception needs to be removed and that veil is ego.

yes, we all have our descriptions of ego and within that can come great debate and discussion. it definitely keeps the wheels spinning. the beauty of learning and growing.

posted April 16, 2008 04:48 PM            

Thor,

Respectfully, I must disagree with you about numerology ending at 52. That was Cheiro's claim and Linda followed suit in her book as well.

However, that is not the whole of the story. Yes, ultimately ALL numbers may be reduced to a single digit by addition, but to say that numerology stops at 52 is to Limit the All (God, the Source, the Universe or what have you), and that, strictly speaking, is not possible.

Numbers larger than 52 may be interpreted in several ways.

Read from right (or the units place) to left(the 10's or 100's or 1000's etc., place) they may be read as the principle of the unit's number acting through the agency of the next digit.

For example the number 78 (which is the number of cards in the Tarot deck) represents the laws or powers or principles, if you will, of the number 8 (Saturn for another name) acting through the agency of the 7 (or Neptune).

One might also read Strength (Higher Arcana 8) working through The Chariot (Higher Arcana 7). It would be equally valid to say that here the force of Leo , or Law of Suggestion (Strength or Higher Arcana 8) is working through the Principle of Cancer, Receptivity-Will, pictured by The Chariot (Higher Arcana 7). Or as easily, we might say that here we find the power of the Sun (Leo) conjoined to that of the Moon (Cancer). All equally valid ways of looking at the number 78.

We might then observe that 78 reduces to the number 15, which in Tarot is The Devil card, which carries it's own interpretations and symbolism. The 15 can also be read as the principle of 5(or Mercury) operating through the agency or law represented by 1 (the Sun). And that too would be valid. And of course we could say that in 15 the Heirophant (Higher Arcana 5) is operating through the agency of The Magician (Higher Arcana 1). If that were the case, we could also factor in that The Magician is associated with the planet Mercury, and that the Hierophant is associated with the sign Taurus, and all of those correspondences would give us even more food for thought in interpreting this number. While we are considering 15 and The Devil, we could also look to the sign Capricorn, and the planet Saturn, its ruler, to help shed Ligh on our examination and understanding of the number 15. (Higher Arcana 15 the Devil is associated with the sign Capricorn)

The 15 then can be reduced to 6, which is Higher Arcana 6, The Lovers, carrying all of the interpretations of that symbol. That would also bring in the sign Gemini (The Lovers). It may also be interpreted to be a representation of Venus (6).

So, truly Numerology is a system of wheels within wheels, as it were. One symbol leading logically and magically to the next, in a never ending spiral of enlightenment.

Any number can be looked at in this fashion, regardless of the number of digits it contains. So, to say that Numerology ends with 52 is really misleading at best, and incorrect in the extreme at worst.

Cheiro and Linda's sytem stoped interpreting numbers after 52 for the various reasons that they commented upon, but that is not the end of Numerology. At best it is the beginning.

All systems work when one has sufficient knowledge and tools with which to analyze them. We find that Astrology and Numerology are also irrevocably intertwined. We may add to that the symbols of the Tarot, which is based on both of these art/sciences with those of the Qabalah, and that opens up even more pathways to enlightenment.

With respect and blessings...

A

posted April 16, 2008 04:56 PM              

When it comes to what i do, it ends at 52.

I did attend a class a LONG LONG LONG TIME AGO...I needed a interpreter as the older man was from Mexico. He interpreted it the same way you did as far as the numbers going on, it was Kabala. so yes you are correct, I guess for those that dabble in more arts, it can go on, but Tarots don't do it for me.

posted April 16, 2008 10:24 PM              

can you please explain further the meaning of 53 within tarot and kabala. i would love to be enlightened.

posted April 17, 2008 11:44 PM            

myS-elf13: Please see this thread:

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum18/HTML/000557.html

Thor: In regard to Linda's birth data: you have already decided what is true for yourself... Linda did not want us looking at her chart, if she had, she would have provided the horoscope in her books. Since she has not, it's kind of a moot point.

I think that she was of the opinion that the message was more important than the medium, so any discussion of her horoscope, aside from being an intellectual or astrological or numerological exercise, would really be against her wishes.

I am going to respect her wishes and make no further comment on her data. I think I have already given my opinions in other threads and at other times, I don't know that my mind has really changed all that much since then, but I have also not looked at her chart for a long while now.

Please understand, I mean no disrespect. You have obviously gone through great pains to discover what you consider the Truth, and I commend that. I think I'm just in a different place about these matters now than I was in my youth; so again I will honor her wishes and keep my opinions (for surely that is all they are) to myself.

Best wishes and bright blessings...

A

P.S. In terms of the numerology, I do use the Chaldean System, however I also take into account the Pythagorean System as well. I have seen both systems offer very valid information. Again, one must know when to use what system, and how to apply that information, but as I have said before: all systems work if they are used consistently and with knowledge and reverence.

In my youth, I was more inclined to rabidly say that THIS way or THAT way are the ONLY way. But as I have gone through Life, and lived through many experiences, I have learned that this is not always the case. As the master Jesus was fond of saying: "In my Father's House there are many mansions..." The older I get, the more I find that to be the case. All roads do eventually lead to Rome, as the saying goes.

Pax et L.V.X.,

A

posted April 18, 2008 05:11 PM              

Actually it wasn't a lot of hard work at all, it just comes as its simple common sense and it doesn't take a bunch of pans to make oatmeal my friend.

how much older are you than the rest of us? I am 38, will be 39 this December, how much more have you learned in your years.

and please don't think I am ****** or anything at you, I truly appreciate your words, I am just speaking what I see can be put so much simpler to a person wanting to learn.

I can say that i have learned things from your blogs, things that have made me go and buy books that relate to those things, but thats when you are speaking clearly and not in riddles.
I think Linda didn't want you looking at her chart as you have stated that she got angry when you spoke of it to her. I didn't know her and she didn't tell me, nor do I recall it anywhere in her book where she says she didn't want the rest of us to find out.

I feel that she wanted you to do the real homework and figure the true reason out. of course she didn't want anyone to do the chart or investigate, because she knew the vibrations, and when anyone questioned it, of course she got upset about it. its as simple as that.

I understand you have Meditated such things and you know Tarots very well. I don't know anything about it, I have ONE book on it, THE TAROT COMPANION BY TRACY PORTER. I truly enjoyed her work, as she did talk about cabala and tarot, and numerology and tarot.

she only uses up to the number 22, 0 being included (0-21).

now Linda used Chaldean and it ended at 52 and since this is a web site based on what Linda taught or continued, thats what people should learn if they ask. to add more when they might not even know that basics is just nuts.

Though I respect your sayings, but you talk in many riddles at times when its just so much more simple than that. In Chaldean numerology 53 is 8b[], its as simple as that.

Thats what I do and if someone ask me, thats what i am going to tell them, I am not going to confusion them with [b]5 and 3 and this and that. First the student needs to learn the basics of one system and then If they want to go on to Tarots, and other thing, don't you think they will get there.

you have stated,

"In my youth, I was more inclined to rabidly say that THIS way or THAT way are the ONLY way."

In my youth I didn't need to go THIS way or THAT way, I went one way and stuck with it, I didn't need to meditate on anything, the answer was there because simple means were used.

Great pains are for those that need to mediate one things because either their eyes and ears aren't really open or they don't want other to truly find out the truth, they intertwine the answer in more questions because perhaps they don't want to student to ever reach that level they think they sit upon.

I thinks its such a shame that you still let Linda hold you back by not just saying what her birth date is, whether you believe it to be the 9th or 10th, or maybe you just didn't know? I don't know. I know I am correct as I was given confirmation from the ONE that knows, but only after I presented what I saw. It was that simple, here we are how many years after she is passed, after her vibration has moved on and you are still using fear to just SAY.

I guess you are still stuck and will never reach the level she did...The student will always pass the teacher unless the student doesn't want to move forward and instead sit in the shadow and excuse of a promise.

SO are you saying that she told you her birth information and then made you promise not to tell...ever? lol.

Just asking brotha...?

There is only one true Numerology system, and its name is not Pythagorean. Those that KNOW or even have confidence to believe in ONE system don't use both. each one will give you a different interpretation, a different answer...so which one is right? what do you tell the student??? that both interpretations are them? thats bull.

when you sign a contract with the higher Self...astrology, numerology, tarots, black mirrors, lexigrams, or the selling of ones soul to the dark forces...thats it, you make that decision. You can't and SHOULD NOT use two systems. those that do are cheating clients, students and their true selfs out of fear of the unknown.

and its not even that unknown, its right under our noses.

posted April 18, 2008 08:12 PM            

Thanks for the input, I'll take it under advisement.

Blessings...

A

posted April 18, 2008 08:18 PM            

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I can say that i have learned things from your blogs

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Aselzion has a blog??

I would love the site address if it is shareable!

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

posted April 18, 2008 10:19 PM            

Well God of Thunder, if you would pay to subscribe, perhaps I'd write a blog.

In L.V.X.

A