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Topic: THE MEANING OF THE COMPOUND KEY NUMBERS 17-19
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AngelaCarisaCalavicci unregistered
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posted February 28, 2002 09:20 PM
17 The Star of the Magi This is a highly spiritual number, and was expressed in symbolism by the ancient Chaldeans as the 8-pointed Star of Venus. The Star of the Magi is the image of Love and Peace, and promises that the person or entity it represents with rise superior in spirit to the trials and difficulties of earlier life, with the ability to conquer former failure in personal relationships and the career. 17 is "the number of Immortality," and indicates that the person's (or entity's) name will live after him--(should one decide to die, that is, which is a choice, as you'll learn in the Physical Immortality chapter). This is an extremely fortunate Compound number, with one warning. It reduces to the Single number 8, so it's important for anyone with 17 as a Compound Key Number to carefully read the section about the numbers 4 and 8 at the end of this chapter.18 Spiritual-Material Conflict Of all Compound numbers, 18 has the most difficult symbolism to translate. (Read again on an earlier page of the chapter the relationship of 18 to Jesus.) The ancients describe the Compound number 18 with the following image: "A rayed moon, from which drops of blood are falling. A wolf and a hungry dog are seen below, catching the falling drops of blood in their opened mouths, while still lower, a crab is seen hastening to join them." 18 symbolizes materialism striving to destroy the spiritual side of the nature. It often associates the person or entity represented by it with bitter quarrels within the family circle--with wars, social upheaval, and revolution. In some cases it indicates making money or achieving position through divisive tactics, through war or other conflict. It warns of treachery and deception from both "friends" and enemies; also danger from the elements, such as fire, flood, earthquakes, tempests and explosions, electrical shock or lightning. If the Compound number of the name is in 18, the vibration should be negated immediately by changing the spelling of the name to equal a more fortunate Compound number. If the birth number is an 18, extreme caution and care must be taken to meet the challenges and dangers of this Compound number. The only way to dilute or diminish its effect on the life is by spiritual means, by unfailingly and repeatedly meeting deception and hatred from others with generosity, love, and forgiveness, by "turning the other cheek," and returning good for evil, kindness for cruelty, honesty for dishonesty, honor for dishonor. In this way, the vibration 18 may be used for great success in illumination and enlightenment. Those born on the 18th day of any month have chosen themselves (on the level of Higher Self), between incarnations, this channel of birth (as did Jesus) as the greatest of all testings of the soul for worthiness. Another way to dilute the negative aspect of the 18 is to change the number of the name (whatever number it may be) to any favorable Compound number which adds or reduces to the single 6, by changing the spelling of the name. In addition to the attitude just counseled, this will also help to turn the tragedy of the 18 into triumph. Remember what we've learned about the 6 (Love) always and without exception conquering the 9 of conflict? (1 plus 8 is 9.) Adding the 6 vibration (with its related number 3) was also chosen when the life pattern of Jesus of Nazareth was planned, as I've already explained. People born on the 18th day of any month would be wise to plan everything of importance on the 3rd or 6th day of any month would be wise to plan everything of importance on the 3rd or 6th day of any month, or on a day adding to the 3 or 6, especially the 6--and to add the 6 vibration to the life in every way possible, i.e.: addresses, telephone numbers, and any other way they can think of (there are many) to emphasize and increase the power of the number 6 in the personal life and career. In this way more one be victorious, in both the spiritual and material worlds, over the restrictions of the 18. 19 The Prince of Heaven 19 is one of the most fortunate and favorable of all Compound numbers. It is symbolized as the Sun, and is called the Prince of Heaven because it indicates victory over all temporal failure and disappointment. It blesses the person or entity represented by it with all of the power of the Compound number 10, without the danger of abuse inherent in the 10. This number promises happiness and fulfillment--success in all ventures as well as in the personal life. Of course, if 19 is the name number, it must be considered along with the birth number, which might not be as fortunate. So nothing is perfect, but regardless of the influences of another, possibly negative number, the 19 will smooth the path and greatly dilute any negative vibrations one must deal with in the full numerological analysis.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 160605 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 08, 2002 01:22 AM
------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
Alma Sun Knowflake Posts: 2235 From: The East Coast Registered: Mar 2011
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posted May 09, 2012 11:32 AM
quote: 18 Spiritual-Material Conflict
Yep. For my Chaldean name number I need to be more spiritual but my North Node/Vertex is in Taurus. Great. Great read though, thanks for the post ACC ------------------ "The snake which cannot cast its skin has to die. As well the minds which are prevented from changing their opinions; they cease to be mind." — Friedrich Nietzsche IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 160605 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 10, 2012 02:58 PM
Change your name. But you can get a secondary compound number by adding up your month/day/year.------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
Alma Sun Knowflake Posts: 2235 From: The East Coast Registered: Mar 2011
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posted May 10, 2012 05:22 PM
Seems like too much trouble though. In Chaldean numerology, is it required to put your entire birth name or just first name only? What if it's a single digit? ------------------ "The snake which cannot cast its skin has to die. As well the minds which are prevented from changing their opinions; they cease to be mind." --- Friedrich Nietzsche IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 160605 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 10, 2012 10:36 PM
Chaldean uses common name only (first and last unless middle is common--like Sallie-Mae). Names can come to a single digit.------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
Alma Sun Knowflake Posts: 2235 From: The East Coast Registered: Mar 2011
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posted May 11, 2012 12:00 PM
Cool, thanks!------------------ "The snake which cannot cast its skin has to die. As well the minds which are prevented from changing their opinions; they cease to be mind." --- Friedrich Nietzsche IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 160605 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 12, 2012 02:42 PM
Did you figure your secondary number? Reduce the month to a single digit, then the day, and then the year. Add up all three. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
bonsai unregistered
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posted May 12, 2012 08:56 PM
how much influence does the secondary compound number have?IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 160605 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 04, 2012 10:45 AM
A lesser influence if you already have a compound number. If not, it's a big influence.------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
MoonMystic Knowflake Posts: 6864 From: ♓ NN Registered: Nov 2016
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posted December 18, 2017 08:03 PM
I'm curious if this still applies somehow to my karmic debt 19? It is somewhat confusing.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 160605 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 19, 2017 02:45 PM
How did you arrive at it?IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 160605 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 20, 2017 06:38 PM
Is that your birth number? If so, it is related to past Karma. IP: Logged |
MoonMystic Knowflake Posts: 6864 From: ♓ NN Registered: Nov 2016
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posted December 22, 2017 02:45 AM
Randall, on one of the threads there was a link to cafe-astrology for numerology reports. It included I ran mine and it included my karmic debt #s. 16&19.I do need to further my reading somewhere besides LL to understand these numbers, as they aren't my birth numbers. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum22/HTML/000021.html (I'm certain we all come with unresolved karma, at some point we have any combination of karmic numbers.) IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 160605 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 23, 2017 05:50 PM
What's your birth number?IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 160605 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 24, 2017 07:09 PM
Agreed that we all have unresolved Karma.IP: Logged |
MoonMystic Knowflake Posts: 6864 From: ♓ NN Registered: Nov 2016
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posted December 25, 2017 01:13 AM
Do you mean life path#?My birth number, minus my year is 8. I just used a calculator for my full name, it's 72. They don't break it down. There are lots of formats I suppose. http://www.lucky-name-numerology.com/numerology-meanings-30.html
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 160605 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 26, 2017 12:18 PM
No, what day were you born on?IP: Logged |
MoonMystic Knowflake Posts: 6864 From: ♓ NN Registered: Nov 2016
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posted December 27, 2017 05:02 PM
Sorry about the confusion, was using the wrong method. I'm a 6 birth number. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 160605 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2017 07:48 PM
That means you have no primary Karmic number. You can get your secondary number (compound) by adding this way:Month + Day + Year __________ For example, October 23, 1986 would be: 10 + 23 + 1986 __________ 2019 = 12 IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 160605 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 28, 2017 02:52 PM
The secondary will have an influence, but the 6 is your main vibe. Also, your name is very important.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 160605 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 29, 2017 06:00 PM
Have you figured your name number?IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 160605 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 30, 2017 10:12 AM
Chaldean only uses the first and last names. I can put the chart up for you. IP: Logged |
MoonMystic Knowflake Posts: 6864 From: ♓ NN Registered: Nov 2016
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posted December 30, 2017 08:15 PM
If you can add the chart, I'll do my name. ☺ Do I use the surname and the name I use or the given first name? Mine differs. I was named after a family member so I'm mostly known by my middle.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 160605 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 31, 2017 06:18 PM
Use the name you are known by. Calculate the first name (in your case, middle name) and surname separately, reducing each to a single digit (unless it comes to 11 or 22), and then add the two final numbers up.A - 1 B - 2 C - 3 D - 4 E - 5 F - 8 G - 3 H - 5 I - 1 J - 1 K - 2 L - 3 M - 4 N - 5 O - 7 P - 8 Q - 1 R - 2 S - 3 T - 4 U - 6 V - 6 W - 6 X - 5 Y - 1
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