posted July 05, 2009 09:50 AM            

I think, at the end of the day, what matters is just Michael Jackson's legacy. His music, dance, creation, all his works, were, still are, and shall always be out-of-this-world.

Who am I to judge him? I should let this wary soul lay to rest.

D

posted July 05, 2009 11:15 AM            

Apart from a strong Neptunian aura about him, the impact was probably doubled, as I also sense a potent 12th house quality in him.

posted July 06, 2009 01:57 AM            

I would have guessed he was a Sun Pisces.

posted July 06, 2009 03:13 AM            

By the way, regarding his stats, I suspect that there were actually major aspects between his Sun and his Moon, and between his Moon and his Pluto, unlike the natal chart we've been using here at LL, which does not have any major aspects between his Sun and Moon or between his Moon and Pluto. All we know is that he definitely had Sun conjunct Pluto, that's all.

I just recently realized that I am very intolerant and very judgmental.

posted July 06, 2009 03:21 AM            

It wouldn't have surprised me had he been a stellium 10th houser, with probably his Uranus conjunct his MC.

Just a wild guess, I guess.

posted July 13, 2009 08:34 PM            

Hi Antiquarianbookcollector,

I can't promise to look. When my mind is in a flitting mood, I can't go to deep and I'm already hip deep in the charts of some clients. This brain is fried. If I get over there and see anything, I'll post it. Welcome to LL.

posted July 14, 2009 04:58 AM            

You are a class act, and a brilliant astrologer. You carry yourself so beautifully - your manner and your words.

posted August 02, 2009 01:39 AM            

I felt your bump several days late, I guess. Thanks for the bump. Let's see if I have anything astrological to say...Hmmm...

posted August 02, 2009 12:12 PM            

I'm really sorry and sad your lovely thread got cr@pped on and used as a soapbox in such a bombastic and malicious manner by someone with such incomplete and erroneous perceptions
I deeply admire the maturity and restraint of your response

posted March 01, 2010 02:29 AM            

Two of my oldest friends are very skilled Tarot Card readers and psychics. They both teach me Tarot from time to time but I'm a little too impatient (I'm an Aries) and the visuals of the cards are so powerful and immediate that it frightens me. I'm not good with mythology and the archetypes, even in astrology. I have a Mercury-Saturn conjunction and it doesn't deal with mythology and poetry really well. I need things to be linear, straight forward and have rules that work each and everytime. There probably is Tarot technique that does that but my friends don't teach it to me that way. I could go on and on with this story so instead I'll move on to how I created the cards.

I realized at one point that I kept relating real life incidents to the lives of celebrity musicians that I grew up listening to and one day I decided to take 72 index cards and write down the names of the celebrities along with a few sentences or words that came to mind when I thought of those people. For example:

Stevie Nicks - the Spell Caster

Ringo Starr - Peace, Love, relaxed, earth

Cindy Lauper - the wise, monied fool

Roberta Flack - matronly, frumpy, unseductive or La Madama

John & Yoko - edgy, humanitarian, business love, love with strings

Captain & Tenille - Happy relationship, successful marriage

Sting - literary, Mercury, Virgo, Shakespeare

George Harrison - Spiritual Gardener, sensitive, quiet, the youngest, "It's all in the mind."

Leonard Bernstein - The caring mentor, teacher, translator, connecting with source, intense introspection

Mariah Carey - right ideas gone wrong, the right to be wrong, great marketing campaign, faith in the after life.

Tina Marie - Feminine Power House, Rosie the Riveter, Big things in small packages

Marvin Gaye - depression, sadness, concern for the environment

Burt Bacharach - mature taste, mature authority

Joni Mitchell - the TRUTH, The Crone

Peter Gabriel - "Don't Give Up!", The Embrace, Pure Love, Sexual Undertones, The Hope Card

Madonna - Big corporate business; Unexpected success, doing it despite having the talent

Barbara Streisand - Political Power, unrequited love, Yentl & Avigdor

Luther Vandross - weight issues, ups and downs with health, Fighting for continued success, A lifestyle change is needed.

Jermaine Jackson - Puppy Love

Cher - Success with longevity, Decoration, "Moonstruck", the Moon

Quincy Jones - match maker, one who unites, forming a community

Carly Simon - "Clouds in my coffee", Daydreaming, publishing

Stevie Wonder - Deity, Higher Power, All-that-is, Humor, Wisdom (modern day prophet). [The highest card in the deck]

Elvis Presley - Instincts being freed; the spark igniting the flames; A Shaman

Miles Davis - The Death Card, transition, regeneration, chameleon, extreme deep focus, perspective.

Wow, I only wanted to list a few cards, but I just kept going. Well, I wanted to just mention that I picked certain people to be high cards like the Beatles card and then each separate Beatle is a high card, Stevie Wonder is the highest card because I hold him in my highest esteem. The Jackson 5 Card is a high card, Michael Jackson is an interesting card.

Michael Jackson - self-hate; unseen abuse; inner scars; Not seeing how large and magnificent you are; ALWAYS REMEMBER HOW PRECIOUS YOU ARE!!!!

The Beatles - the ceiling, the top, the ultimate untouchable success.

Blood, Sweat & Tears - childbearing, birthing a project, motherhood, "You make me so very happy."

Neil Sedaka - multiple lives, reincarnation, reinvention, successes, "Laughter in the Rain", "Breaking Up Is Hard To Do"

Sonny & Cher - Divorce

Sonny and Cher are the divorce card because they were a part of my first experience with divorce. My closest aunt and uncle got divorced around the same time as Sonny and Cher and that's just how I think of them in terms of divination.

The thing is that my cards and the meanings I assigned to them is very intimate with my own life, feelings and opinions about each artist. One last example is the George Gershwin card:

George Gershwin - guilt associated with art.

Now that may seem strange to your average person but for me it's connected to a story. An aquaintence of a friend loaned me a biography with a lead pencil drawing of George Gershwin that she created. She loaned me the book for an assignment I was doing in college. She begged me to bring it back because she loaned the book to several other people and they never gave it back. Well, circumstances beyond my control occurred and I was unable to give her back the book. Even 19 years later I'm still unable to get my hands on the book to return it to her. I suffered a lot of guilt about it, but I have to let it go until I have the power to retrieve the book and get it back to her. Although I can't help but to feel she cursed herself by telling that no one else has returned their copies of her book.

And that's how I assigned meaning to many of the cards, all 72 of them.

Let me know what you think so far.

I hope I explained it somewhere in all of this mumbo jumbo.

posted March 01, 2010 03:19 AM            

I've been wanting to make my own deck, but I don't know what to do exactly. I am really impatient with the tarot in general (Aries moon probably lol) - I really learned over extended time...and after a number of years through just hands-on. Even now I don't use a spread so much as throw stuff down and get a 'feel' for it. It's just an intuitive thing with reads in general, and either I'm on or I'm off.

But I think designing and coming up with a deck is something I would love to do. I thought about making a deck which wasn't even the usual set of cards, but maybe something like inspiration cards or whatever. God I need them. Saturn's leather sandals have just stepped into my 6th house and are opposing my 12th....DAH-YUM. Annoying!!!