posted May 15, 2020 05:19 PM              

Please lock me away, and don't allow the day, here inside, where I hide, with my loneliness...
I don't care what they say I won't stay in a world without love.

posted May 15, 2020 06:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Moonbeth:
Common sense is common, it’s in the name for a reason, what’s not so common is acting on it.

Of course, these days, people prefer ignoring the fact freedom isn’t an absolute and rather a spectrum within limits, just so they can claim selfish fancies under the guise of needs and rights to be free regardless of the fact these unnecessary desires are seriously infringing the most basic freedom of others.

Common sense isn’t lost or rare, people just chicken out before the reality check it implies for them. People want to feed themselves with steak instead of nurturing humanity by keeping themselves and others safe. It’s not a lack of common sense, it’s a refusal of it. It’s weakness, and cowardice. Sometimes stupidity, but I sincerely don’t think that’s the majority, which makes it way tougher.

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posted May 16, 2020 03:34 PM              

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Originally posted by Randall:
The lock-ins are causing their own set of tragedies.

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a) not a reason to go for pandemic party.
couple of random examples
Betty gets punched in the face by her husband Joe every day since lockdown, Betty needs to be able to go back to work so she angers him less and gets beaten less, she could die from the concussions.
No. Joe needs to ******* stop punching on his wife who risks equal death from covid at work btw, the difference is covid cannot be stopped, Joe could, if politicians had made decisions based on the welfare of people, wait, they still could, they’d rather tell Betty to go to work, suck it up and stop whining (which sounds an awful lot like Joe when you think of it).
Staying in causes my blood pressure to rise and makes me properly freak out. It’s bad and ugly.
So, should I develop creative ways to cope, find ways to soothe the madness and anxiety and to exercise for my health, try natural remedies, developing patience and such while I’m still alive to do so…? No, your answer is I should expose myself, with high blood pressure, to a lethal virus and trade the anxiety of being in for that of interacting with ***** who refuse to wear masks (possibly a boss who refuses to infuse the cash to make the workplace safe because he’s “already lost enough money with that ******** ” too) and who may contaminate me.
Because death is nothing, death is something you go for. It’s not an absolute, it’s just a potential you’re willing to risk because it ranks very low on the hierarchy of suckee things to be afflicted by, right? This is what you argue ^^

b) a lot of those are due to political wrongdoing and sending people to their death rather than fixing political decisions that are harmful to people is cruelty worthy of hell.
Practical rhetoric: These people are starving they need to work to pay for food.
There is enough food for everybody, these people were working before, that they would be so broke they can’t eat after a few weeks of lockdown doesn’t mean adopting reasonable safety measures is wrong, it means the system was ****** up and needs to be changed because it couldn’t take people protecting themselves from a pandemic.
If people starve, you feed them, you don’t make them perform dangerous tricks for crumbles.
“Look at the meat doggy, come on, look at the meat! You want the meat? Want the meat? Go get it from the shelf after you’ve successfully jumped above a crocodile pond and through three tiny hoops on fire. Don’t forget to smile for the people who benefit from you performing those tricks by the way, just because you only get 0.01% of the wealth you generate doesn’t mean there are no more benefits to it Enjoy your meal :-)!”

posted May 17, 2020 06:32 PM              

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Originally posted by Randall:
We can agree to disagree. Over 100,000 businesses have permanently closed that will never reopen. Some people have spent years building a business and have lost everything.

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posted May 18, 2020 05:14 PM              

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Originally posted by Randall:
We closed up, because the models showed a high fatality rate. We now know those models were wrong. We have never shut everything down for the flu. This is like saying no one should drive, because people die from car wrecks.

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posted May 20, 2020 02:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
We closed up, because the models showed a high fatality rate. We now know those models were wrong. We have never shut everything down for the flu. This is like saying no one should drive, because people die from car wrecks.

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posted May 24, 2020 11:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
The models were wrong, because countries that didn't shut down did better than those that did. We shouldn't have shut down businesses. We should have just protected nursing homes.

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posted June 03, 2020 07:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Where's the outrage over the virus now?

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It's still there, but kind of overshadowed by something that's also important. You can't multi-task?

I told you that local protesters were being careful, wearing masks and handing out hand sanitizer. In Canton, they were making sure to socially distance, since they didn't attract as much of a crowd as Cleveland.

posted June 17, 2020 12:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:

So, it's okay to kill grandma and grandpa if you agree with the purpose of the crowd? But it's not okay to go to church or graduation or funerals?

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#Grandma Lives Matter!!!! LOL

It's "not okay" to go any place where precautions are not seriously regarded.

Many churches, including some popular Highly Regarded with mega-memberships-- of all kinds of faiths, and belief-systems-- are providing ONLINE services.

That's a POSITIVE thing. I think that's wonderful!!! If you want to church-shop, or temple-shop, or you were 'curious' about other belief-systems, you can now experience all of them, with a 'window-seat' through the internet.

They have a way to take electronic donations and offerings, so that financially, they don't lose as much as otherwise you'd expect. In fact, they may be attracting new members TO their e-churches.

I know of one where the minister said that donations were very generous, and the funds received not only covered the cost of broadcasting, but added more finances for their abilities to do even-more charity for the local communities they serve.

One's I've attended have announced that they want to be careful to 'protect' people. They will continue to WAIT before allowing local members to come back into their facilities.

I know that Trump wants to hold his rally, accept his nomination, with people being crowded in, without masks?

Numbers of cases right now are RISING.