posted August 01, 2020 04:08 PM              

I then draw that chart for Greenwich, UK ... and move the longitude West or East, to get the correct MC position - adjust for the local time difference - and then the latitude is moved North or South, to get the correct Asc location.

I then use an Atlas to look up the place at that longitude and latitude.

posted August 02, 2020 03:47 PM            

I would need to 'create a chart' for SUN birthday,
approximate the hour by the Moon.
Make the 'place' of birth in Greenwich, UK/GMT.

From there,
start to "play" with time of birth, until MC degree is lined-up.

Next.. I would adjust the Latitude AFTER I found the MC degree?

so, still.. ?what's the Longitude then? ..

posted August 03, 2020 04:49 AM              

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Hi Graham, Thanks!
.. so ..
FINDING 'PLACE OF BIRTH'
from a natal wheel only,
with no birthdata

I would need to 'create a chart' for SUN birthday,
approximate the hour by the Moon.
Make the 'place' of birth in Greenwich, UK/GMT.

From there,
start to "play" with time of birth, until MC degree is lined-up.

Next.. I would adjust the Latitude AFTER I found the MC degree?

so, still.. ?what's the Longitude then? ..

I don't understand which Longitude the MC is.

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The Moon location provides the exact UT/GMT time of birth. ... So, that is the Greenwich Chart that you start with.

That chart has the MC and Asc locations for when the person's Moon was being viewed from Greenwich, UK ... and we now need to adjust those angles (to those in the person's chart), keeping the Moon at the same zodiac degree location (by adjusting the local time).

The Mc degree gives us the time zone adjustment ... as it takes the Sun approximately 4 minutes of time to move 1 degree of longitude/Mc ... subtracting from UT if moving Westward and adding to UT if moving Eastward.

The Ascendant degree gives us the point/lattitude on the line of longitude at which the person was born.

Instead of using an atlas, though ... input the lattitude and longitude at http://latitude.to
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So ... to illustrate the process, using the Placidus birth chart for Kirk Douglas, at http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Douglas,_Kirk :-

1. We first draw the Greenwich, UK chart that has the exact same zodiac degree locations as KD's (i.e.. Moon at 18Gemini26:14) ... It has a local time of 15:15 pm on 9th December 1916, at 00E00 : 51N28:37

2. The Greenwich Chart has MC at 4Aquarius26:28 and Asc at 8Gemini44:40 ... But Kirk's actual chart has MC at 24Scorpio56:57 and Asc at 0Aquarius32:56.

3. So, we need to move the MC 69deg29mins31secs clockwise ... which requires us to move the longitude to 74W11

4. And we need to move the Ascendant 128deg11mins44secs clockwise ... which requires us to move the lattitude to 42N56.

5. We then use the atlas to find the place at 42N56 : 74W11, move our chart location (from Greenwich) to that place (Amsterdam, New York) and adjust the local time* to that which gives us a Moon location of 18Gemini26:14.

[ * In theory time zones are based on the division of the world into twenty four time zones of 15 degrees longitude each. So 74w11 is 5 zones/hours behind Greenwich Mean Time/UT, and 74e11 is 5 zones/hours ahead of UT.]
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posted November 19, 2020 11:35 AM            

A N D !!!!!!!!!!

H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y, Graham!! (27 Scorpio)

Wishing you a fabulous Solar Return Year...
and Great Health!!!

Your Sun Scorpio 27+ trines my Jupiter Cancer 27+

posted November 20, 2020 02:02 AM              

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Originally posted by mirage29:
^ Missed seeing your careful reply!!! Thanks a Bunch!!!

A N D !!!!!!!!!!

[b]H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y, Graham!! (27 Scorpio)

Wishing you a fabulous Solar Return Year...
and Great Health!!!

Your Sun Scorpio 27+ trines my Jupiter Cancer 27+

- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/005638.html [/B]

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Thank you, mirage.

posted November 22, 2020 02:19 PM              

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Originally posted by Randall:
Happy Solar Return!

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posted December 07, 2020 02:00 PM              

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Originally posted by Randall:
Hope it was a great one!

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At this age ... every one that I am physically and mentally present at is a good one.

posted December 07, 2020 03:44 PM              

And age is but a number. Can even be reversed. Have you ever looked into dry fasting?

Just did about a 70 hr soft dry fast ("soft" meaning exposure to water outside like showers, baths, etc). Surprisingly, it was no issue (though I'd might get headaches or the like). Allegedly, some of have done dry fasts even up to 21 days. With no food or water, apparently the body goes into hyper transformative mode and will start converting fat into both energy and water (takes the hydrogen from the fat and combines it with the oxygen we breathe) for the body to live on. Also increases HGH, stimulates production of stem cells, etc.

There is an interesting account in the Cayce readings of such an age stopping and reversal. During and after the period that Ra Ta had been booted out of his beloved Egypt for his hypocritical actions/being set up, he apparently aged quite rapidly from all the stress. Supposedly, humans lived longer at this point some 12, 500 years ago, and though he was around 100, that was not considered particularly aged (some regularly lived several hundred years at this time).

When he was allowed/requested to come back to Egypt from the banishment, people feared that he would not be able to continue his work because he had grown frail, tired, and aged. But over a 6.5 year period, with the help of a musician priest, he regenerated every cell in the body using a combination of diet, particular tones and notes via musical instruments (and I'm guessing toning/chanting also), deep spiritual attunement, etc.

Came out looking and feeling like a younger guy again, literally. The clock had not only been stopped, but somewhat reversed.

MUCH is possible with the right attunement and intentions, and if one is living a helpful, positive service to others kind of life.

(Me, I plan on taking the first train out of dodge unless I'm asked to stay).

posted December 08, 2020 03:37 AM              

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Oh, I suspect with your Virgo Rising and fairly active Pineal Gland (definitely a bit more than the average guy) that you're probably younger looking/feeling than your years Graham.

And age is but a number. Can even be reversed. Have you ever looked into dry fasting?

Just did about a 70 hr soft dry fast ("soft" meaning exposure to water outside like showers, baths, etc). Surprisingly, it was no issue (though I'd might get headaches or the like). Allegedly, some of have done dry fasts even up to 21 days. With no food or water, apparently the body goes into hyper transformative mode and will start converting fat into both energy and water (takes the hydrogen from the fat and combines it with the oxygen we breathe) for the body to live on. Also increases HGH, stimulates production of stem cells, etc.

There is an interesting account in the Cayce readings of such an age stopping and reversal. During and after the period that Ra Ta had been booted out of his beloved Egypt for his hypocritical actions/being set up, he apparently aged quite rapidly from all the stress. Supposedly, humans lived longer at this point some 12, 500 years ago, and though he was around 100, that was not considered particularly aged (some regularly lived several hundred years at this time).

When he was allowed/requested to come back to Egypt from the banishment, people feared that he would not be able to continue his work because he had grown frail, tired, and aged. But over a 6.5 year period, with the help of a musician priest, he regenerated every cell in the body using a combination of diet, particular tones and notes via musical instruments (and I'm guessing toning/chanting also), deep spiritual attunement, etc.

Came out looking and feeling like a younger guy again, literally. The clock had not only been stopped, but somewhat reversed.

MUCH is possible with the right attunement and intentions, and if one is living a helpful, positive service to others kind of life.

(Me, I plan on taking the first train out of dodge unless I'm asked to stay).

Anyways, I just read the following book, "Dry Fasting: The Phoenix Protocol" by Dr. August Dunning. Not a medical doctor, but previously worked for NASA and JPL. I like his little quip on one of the intros or adverts, "Sometimes it does take a rocket scientist".

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My soul is urging me to try this, GCE. ... But not until the New Year - because, at Christmastime, my accompanying ego insists upon following the "see-food" diet (and dancing to the tune of "Come On Barbie, Let's Go Party").

However ... the God of Gallstones is already reminding me that "there is no fool like an old fool".

posted December 11, 2020 03:06 AM              

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Would caution you, that if you're going to do this, to wait a little while after Christmas/the Holidays because it's not usually good for the body to go from one extreme to another.

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Thanks for the warning, GCE. ... I shall now wait until the clocks go forward, as Spring is perhaps a good time to attempt something new.

posted December 11, 2020 04:09 AM              

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(Speaking as someone who prolonged fasts often, usually 5 days each month.) Dry fasting is extreme and unnecessary stress to the body. Please don't do this, Graham. Though, it is clinically proven that people of your age group and higher are healthier and longer-lived the less they eat. Stick to water fasts.

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Would suggest reading the book I mentioned earlier. Dunning is a pretty brilliant guy, who breaks down the complex science very well. Have you done a dry fast? So far, I actually found it easier than water fast which is what Dunning has said as well--before publishing the book, he had completed a 7 day dry fast. I also have plenty of experience with water fasting, including a 10 day one.

And shouldn't Graham ultimately go with his internal guidance over what others say or don't say?

posted February 02, 2021 04:23 PM            

Betty Lunsted (c1980)
Astrological Insights into Personality

- http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2563467-astrological-insights-into-personality

posted February 03, 2021 01:34 AM              

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Since you are into psychological astrology,
don't know if you ever saw this book?

Betty Lunsted (c1980)
Astrological Insights into Personality

- http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2563467-astrological-insights-into-personality

Be Well!

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I have not come across this book before, but it is indeed one that is likely to interest me.

Will now purchase and read it.