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mirage29
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posted April 22, 2021 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:
Oh...

I didn't think about it...I just wanted this to stop. And that's why I stepped in.

Of course. I shall make sure that I detach myself. And stay better in my heart.

I apologise for stepping in. I only did what I felt I had to do. Maybe I was wrong and you are right mirage...


You didn't do anything wrong. Your motive is to be helpful. I understand that position well. My guess is that you probably were put into the position of Peace Keeper in your childhood home, or with your friend-groups? Even in a marriage? ~~ So was I.

'Men' ... View what's happening here as a 'good' thing. {{hugs}}

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posted April 22, 2021 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eternal Energy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh dear mirage...That was the most difficult post I have ever written here. I can't be in a place with people around and be detached...I was writing this word in the previous post and my heart was breaking...

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posted April 22, 2021 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Breathe, Eternal Energy. ... (It's Okay ~~ You're okay.) It was difficult?, then, acknowledge to your inner self that you did well. You really did. (Comfort your innerChild..) Heaven shall count your effort in the Best Light. You added Good and Helpful Energy.

Did you note the vids referred-to featured 'men in discourse with men'?

Let "the Men" process this through in their way. Trust the process.

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posted April 22, 2021 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eternal Energy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if I have added good energy, but if it is true what you're saying, then I am more than happy to share this energy here...

Thank you mirage...

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posted April 23, 2021 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your inability to admit that it was wrong to not leave someone alone who asked you to and your justification in doing so is that you were “right,” speaks for itself.

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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:
I don't know if I have added good energy, but if it is true what you're saying, then I am more than happy to share this energy here...

Thank you mirage...


Of course you added good energy, EE. ... You and mirage always do that.

However ... friction and confrontation are key requirements in a healthy and well adjusted family. ... Without it, there will inevitably be misguided members who believe nothing is wrong "because no-one is expressing discord".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6I9qVsXnSQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VTkDaR__Fg

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Your inability to admit that it was wrong to not leave someone alone who asked you to and your justification in doing so is that you were “right,” speaks for itself.

And I shall always respond with "your inability to perceive the difference between empathy and compassion speaks for itself".

However ... we do not need to debate this any further ... as each of us has now made whatever valid points we are likely to on this issue.

So ... let's just allow the passage of time to reveal if either of us is "right", or the correct path lies somewhere between our own opposing beliefs.

And, in the mean time ... I shall reflect more upon the following comment made by me at 9.25am on April 21st 2021 (working upon the assumption that your natal Sun is indeed exactly conjunct AquaGuy's natal Saturn) :-

"I see from data posted on the LL Forum by AG that he has natal Saturn at 28Capricorn47 ... which is trine the (28Taurus46) Saturn apex of the LL Forum's Poleaxe configuration - that opposes my own natal Sun(at 27Scorpio41).

BUT ... am I correct in assuming that your natal Sun might be exactly conjunct AG's natal Saturn?*

[ *NOTE : If that assumption is correct, how do you think those aspects (involving AG, myself, Capricorn-Sun-Randall and Taurus-Forum-Administrator-Randall) might play out in our interactions on the LL Forum? ... And what would be your astrological reasoning for arriving at that conclusion?]"

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posted April 23, 2021 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is neither empathy nor compassion that gives you the compulsion to shove your non-helpful advice down the throat of someone who repeatedly asks you to leave her alone. Let’s be clear about what that is.

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posted April 23, 2021 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EE, you have nothing to apologize for. I appreciate your kindness. If there were more people like you in the world, conflict and enmity would dissipate into the mist of illusory nothingness that those concepts truly are. Never fear speaking up. You can and do make a difference. Sometimes, you are the only one who can make all the difference. “This little light of mine, I’m going to let it shine.” Let your light shine.

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posted April 24, 2021 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(had astrology vid here, changed my mind)

April 25, 742am EDT
Eternal Energy, I thought of you when I saw this child's face and listened to this vid this morning.

(topic) Toddler gives parent advice about fighting.
[3:01] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y62veCinCvc

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It is neither empathy nor compassion that gives you the compulsion to shove your non-helpful advice down the throat of someone who repeatedly asks you to leave her alone. Let’s be clear about what that is.

You and I both now know the truth about this whole debacle, Randall ... and that's the debate finally closed for me.

Hence, I am happy for each of us to now leave the matter with our conscience.

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posted April 25, 2021 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eternal Energy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh mirage...Come here, I want to hug you so tight...And keep you there in my arms until I have filled every broken, every missing part of yours with love, caring, happiness...

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posted April 25, 2021 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don’t speak for me, bro, and say some cryptic phrase that makes people think that you and I have spoken off-site and come to some kind of understanding about any of this. Your “truth” and mine are mutually exclusive. About the moving on part, you should have let this go long ago. Better late than never, I suppose.

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Don’t speak for me, bro, and say some cryptic phrase that makes people think that you and I have spoken off-site and come to some kind of understanding about any of this. Your “truth” and mine are mutually exclusive. About the moving on part, you should have let this go long ago. Better late than never, I suppose.

Not surprisingly, your conscience is now making it difficult for YOU to let this go. ... But that is the price for finally recognising that you failed to act with integrity on this matter.

So, for the reciord, I confirm that we have not spoken off-site; or come to any kind of understanding and that your "truth" is mutually exclusive from mine.

Why on earth would I want anyone to believe otherwise on this debacle, Randall?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rzUkLB9vJnU&noapp=1

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posted April 25, 2021 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't put words in my mouth, bruh. You are batting a thousand at being wrong. My conscience is clear. Is yours? You're the one who harassed a member due to your ego and self-importance. Your lack of remorse is very telling. Failed to act with integrity? Wrong again, pal. I recognize no such thing at all. Not even in the least. My integrity cannot be shaken by your hubris.

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Don't put words in my mouth, bruh. You are batting a thousand at being wrong. My conscience is clear. Is yours? You're the one who harassed a member due to your ego and self-importance. Your lack of remorse is very telling. Failed to act with integrity? Wrong again, pal. I recognize no such thing at all. Not even in the least. My integrity cannot be shaken by your hubris.

Have you realised yet that Joe Biden and I were both born on 20th November ... so his natal Sun is also opposite the Saturn apex of the LL Forum's natal poleaxe.

Take care, pal/bruh ... the words/views have already been put into your mouth by the Epoch Times and Fox News ... And, THAT is why you are no longer using your intellect MINDFULLY.

Best wishes for your future career success ... But, please do not interact with me further on this thread.

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posted April 27, 2021 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Graham:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6I9qVsXnSQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VTkDaR__Fg


Music: I just Don't-Like-Mondays ...
What a chilling story behind its being written.

That's powerful, Graham.
Still relevant for today.

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posted May 13, 2021 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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t5

There is no war, mirage. ... I am wanting only to explore how poleaxe configurations manifest.

Hence ... I am awaiting the brief period when neither transit Saturn nor Uranus will be within the 1-degree-activation range of the Forum's Poleaxe* ... having consciously opted to "observe rather than participate" during the periods when it is active.

[ *There is a period of 4-weeks from 4th to 26th June 2021. Then retrograde Saturn is within orb until 27th July - after which there is another inactive period until 14th October, when retrograde Uranus is within orb of the Poleaxe - and joined by Saturn direct from 20th December 2021 to 6th January 2022. Still-within-orb Uranus turns direct on 20th January, and remains within orb until 27th March 2022 ... when these transits to the forum poleaxe will be over.

However, Pluto begins a within-one-degree-orb conjunction to the Saturn apex planet of the poleaxe on 1st March 2022.]

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posted June 01, 2021 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Peace sign had nothing to do with 'war'..
I was just thinking about you, and hoping all was well during your absence.

The Poleaxe stuff is over my head right now. Too much going on .. *usual reason*
So I really can't add info or comments.
Not going 'deep' with it (for now).
But I find it interesting,
and lightly try to keep up with it.
I believe I understand how transits work,
but I haven't explored 'midpoints' and other 'non-visually-apparent' astro phenomenon.
. .
(Need an ephemeris for midpoints.. {AND a Sidereal ephemeris!!}
and yes, I've seen that astrodienst provides an electronic one.
Preference: But there's nothin' like having it IN a book, on paper, studying it, while typing on a keyboard! *smile*)

French Toilet Paper Commercial With Tablet & Emma
[0:38] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13GTbEW0bco

There are discussions going on in other astrological websites (over the span of a few years, from what I saw) on 'the Poleaxe'.
Thought that you had found these.

Just want to say that it's good to see you,
and that Covid hadn't struck you down.

(You missed my Birthday, SR-2021 Sun Gem 7.50'50") -- Kind of creepy chart because it's not that-different house-wise from my own natal. (In this location, it gets rid of the interception I have in 3rd and 9th, Pisces Virgo.
Gave an SR MC of Virgo 9+. Natal MC is Libra 2.30.)
Been trying to read instructions on how to interpret SR's. One source I read, has that having SR-houses so close to the natal chart does not portending well for the year ahead.
..
Queen Elizabeth's SR-2021 was almost exact for HER too. I like her. Hope she stays well this Solar Year.)

Her VERTEX degree in SR was conjunct her natal VX.
Mine is exact conjunct. VX c VX H8 Cancer 24+. Starting transits of my Cancer H8 15.48 cusp now. Transiting Mars Cancer is 24.01 right now!!
.. It Begins!!!

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Bye for now.

Be at Peace, for NO other reason THAN simply, the Peace needed for ALL in a World that's growing more violent in these times.

(music) Ain't No Grave (Johnny Cash)
[2:52] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66QcIlblI1U

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Thanks for responding, mirage. ... Good to speak with you again, and apologies for missing your birthday.

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Good morning Graham. Your other post reminded me of my father. He was 14 years old when he took part in the Battle of Athens in December 1944 here in the heart of Athens. He would often talk about this historic moment for Greece and the following outbreak of the Civil War. I didn't know about the ″Battle of Athens″ in Tennessee. My dad had visited New Orleans and he would talk about this place. I don't remember about Tennessee. I will have to ask my mother if she remembers...

You know...Maybe we are more interwined than we could ever possibly imagine. That's why we should never forget to try every day to be more and more loving and caring to our fellow travelers in life.

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Good morning Graham. Your other post reminded me of my father. He was 14 years old when he took part in the Battle of Athens in December 1944 here in the heart of Athens. He would often talk about this historic moment for Greece and the following outbreak of the Civil War. I didn't know about the ″Battle of Athens″ in Tennessee. My dad had visited New Orleans and he would talk about this place. I don't remember about Tennessee. I will have to ask my mother if she remembers...

You know...Maybe we are more interwined than we could ever possibly imagine. That's why we should never forget to try every day to be more and more loving and caring to our fellow travelers in life.


Omigod!! Such revelations how bubble-ized the narratives on history has been!!

During my elementary schools days (1960s) there had been race-riots only 10 miles from my home and school. .. My history teacher was a black woman. With a nice sweet voice she asked, Were there any good slave masters? .. I shot my hand into the air, and having 'read' the assigned studies in my history book, I almost-quoted the author saying that there were some "good" slave masters-- they were "good" to their slaves.
.. The RESPONSE she gave me???
It was like she changed personalities in front of me, and with all vileness said {using black colloquial speech} that there is NO SUCH THING as a "good" master.
.. That was sooo confusing! ..BUT, The Book said --- ____!
. .
As an Adult now, I "understand"..
When a people can't own their own selves,
then they are not Free.
. .
And, the KIDNAPPING of humans to make them SLAVES (for the purpose of saving money for 'successful capitalism'), was ABOMINABLE.


I now MORE discover-- that what I knew in a shallow and intellectual way, from recent year, that what I 'thought' I knew is WRONG.

Not EVERYTHING you read in the history books, or any book, is "correct"! But NOW.... I am sad, shocked, and in wonder of 'what it is I have learned'!

And, the SAME Evils that were going on in early 1900s with Hitler and the NAZIS is STILL brewing. NAZI were into the White and (Religious) Supremacy, and were KILLING human beings that did NOT agree with THEIR ideas.

In that Battle of Athens, their historic retelling was of Political war in that certain zone. The Democrats (according to their telling) were EVIL-DOERS.
.. Even in certain Political Wars now, Nationalists paint Democrats as 'actual demons'. (Whoah.. yeah there are Nationalist-christianity that say "democracy" is NOT 'In The Bible', and therefore is EVIL, and that the Bible promotes Rule by King, and that THAT"S what they are trying to do politically right now-- Eradicate Democracy, and democrats from being a Form of Govt. .. And they have GUNS, and they are Organized more and more and more...
. .
"Evidence" of what's been going on in the backgrounds of America right now is more telling, and frankly VERY frightening. ..
Both you (Eternal Energy) and Graham live OUTSIDE my Country, and across the Atlantic Ocean from me.

"America" and her Originally Formed Government that has lasted 245 years (on July 4th) was founded as a spiritual kind of 'idea' and as an Ideal. The "spiritual" part of it was like TV person "Mr. Rogers" .. you BE a Good Citizen and Good Neighbor to your fellow American. {asteroid Misterrogers is conjunct USA MOON! haha}
The men that wrote the Constitution were basically drafting rules based on the spiritual Ideals of judeo-christians-- promoting "The Golden Rule" {treat others the way 'you' want to be treated: Kindness, sharing, and Respect. If someone is in want, and you happen to have extra, then you Share}. Treat everybody right.

And, that ALL humans are CREATED Equal under the Eyes of God.

The MEN that made up the rules for us, as a nation back THEN-- at America's beginnings-- had NOT yet had the "FULL revelation" of Equal HUMANS yet. Black people were not considered 'human' but almost a grade of animal-humans to be clasped in Chains, and used like oxen, or beasts. {*tears* as I write this.. omg}.
And the WOMEN, were even less than a black man-- they didn't 'belong' to their own self as Independent humans. They were PROPERTY. MEN's property. They belonged to the 'father' who passed her off in marriage to another 'man'-- for the purpose of Babies and Serving {with no value really} in the home. ~Barefoot and Pregnant! --

In those early 1900s years, Women DIED, were beaten and KILLED, for fighting for The Vote. For a VOICE in Govt. She's still 'diminished' in that we fight for Equal MONEY for Labors same as the man.

We have come along in Time, but SLOW in recognizing the Value of a Human Being.

History Books
SO much revealing going on.
The ex-former admin in US wanted to FIX/fastened the History of America to a Nationalist WHITE Idealism.
I can HARDLY believe-- that over 30 States in the USA are banned from teaching about The Jewish Holocaust!!!, which was CORE to what Hitler and NAZIS and Supremists DID to a nation of PEOPLE.

RIGHT NOW, in the Modern United States of America, we (in my locality) have had PROTESTERS in front of The Holocaust Museum with placards and magaphones {sic} saying that HITLER was RIGHT!
. .
{These belong to a certain Nationalist extreme Right party that has been undermining The Vote, and working diligently to FORM a NEW Govt, re-writing their version of a Constitution, for the United States of America. Their Constitution is NOT based on democracy, but gives all power to a single-party that serves a King/ruler.
Our Nation was born to fight such tyranny.
-- These {as I breathe} are working towards DESTROYING The United States of America, and re-forming her AS ruled by dictatorship.

It's a Fight for Democracy right now.

That other group of domestic terrorists??, ARE the Group that want to BAN things from our History Books.

Being White makes you Right??

Although this is ALL so distorting of 'what' I had known, and what my Education System had taught, IT'S Time for REVELATION and Change .. for Good.

It was NOT 'good' to treat other humans like Animals and Property for the White Men who Ruled The Govt then, and want to RETURN everyone to it right NOW.

Hitler didn't die-- his evil is resident and by certain men, being raised-back-up into power. {God Forbid!}

These LESSONS NEED inclusion into our History Books.

Teach The Children about
Man's Inhumanity to Man.
Humans, Inhumane to the more vulnerable in "Humanity"

May Our Future Humans be Beings of Compassion!! :{

* Tulsa Race MASSACRE
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacrehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T ulsa_race_massacre

* TWO Years BEFORE
- http://news.yahoo.com/two-years-befor e-the-tulsa-massacre-the-red-summer-saw-white-mobs-murder-hundreds-of-black-americans-231429992.html

~

* The Holocaust
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

* an event that mirrors events in USA now
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht

___________________________________
I hope the USA doesn't crumble under Pluto Return.

Some astrologers have been saying that the "experiment" of ruling ourselves has Failed. And that democracy is 'not normal'.

Feels as though our Society has grown more cold, more about 'self-only' and social darwinism echoes the ideals that peaked with Hitler .. and everything in history that BROUGHT his rise, has been repeated in US government politics. -- So SURREAL, as I read it, WHILE events now, looked like they were following THAT roadmap.

Sooo creepy !
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_rise_to_power

And, The People Slept .. Numb ..
Just Numb .. and Unknowing
Like we have been being boiled, like frogs in a kettle



(music) Sounds of Silence..
(Disturbed - cover by Jadyn Rylee and Sina
Simon & Garfunkel original)
[4:11] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xysVNigCsU

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Graham has left the building.

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