posted February 07, 2021 09:21 PM            

I hope it was obvious enough,
which of my sentences were partly not meant seriously, and which ones were.
As I am not used to this kind of verbal expression, but it seemed unavoidable in this situation.
I offered open communication multiple times, but no changes and no honesty about it.
Also nobody saying even one word of protection.
Although no serious consequences could have accured.
Now only silence.
You can really be proud of yourselves.
I don't expect anybody to be perfect, but this is really extreme.
In principle you can find this behaviour in most parts of the wourld,
but could it be even worse in the US ?
Could that be a reason for in very extreme cases those many suicids or shootings in schools ?
And more extremely obese people than anywere in the wourld ?
Everybody has to be eighter in a beauty pageant or the army ?
Plus one must be among the 'popular' kids in the class ?
Even in a spiritual forum this peer-pressure ?
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I am the path, the truth and the life,
No one comes to the Father except through Me.

Thou shalt love they neighbor as theyself.

(both Jesus Christ)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SPAWurVRBxE

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As for me, all I know is I know nothing.

In every person there is a sun, just let them shine. 🌄

posted February 08, 2021 07:51 PM            

I'm very happy to see you here,
and that you even let me watch that wonderful video.
If you prefere for privacy-reasons, you could take it out now,
I saw it twice but didn't save it - not sure if you'd like that.

Can't make a fire outside now, can't open the door, snow is too high ❄️🏔️ and it's middle of the night.
But I just lit five candles in a big chandelier and two others beside it,
on my low livingroom-table, which is made from natural, dark slate.
Decoratet a semiprecious stone, two wood-carved trees,
four different amulets, one for each direction of the sky,
and one little angel.

Saw a hat today in a shop, same colour as yours, the only hat in that shop,
which normally never ever sells hats...

I like owls, met one when I was kind of 'initiated' to the spiritual wourld the first time, as a kid.

What kind of ritual was that with that bone ?

posted February 10, 2021 07:17 PM            

I needed some time to think and read some of our earlier posts here.
As communication seems to be very limited here by the lack of a pm-function and the possible presence of invisible audience anywhere out there,
I can only hope, that I get your messages, but I think I do at the moment.

You could tell me what you wanted to put together in some thoughts, as you mentioned, and delete it later, after I read it/answered,
in case there should be anything more worth saying.

After I have answered, you could tell me, what you'd rather not talk about,
and I can delete it, if necessary.

But I don't think it will be, because I guess ,
what you want to express, is no big problem, it can actually only be helpful and healing, when everybody is open and honest.
It's all just human.
I would not mind at all to read about everybodies true feelings,
one can always try to dress them in a friendly outfit...

Only that way you can get to know the other without those profound misperceptions...

Yesterday I actually bought that hat, asked somebody to pick it up, but it was too small and wouldn't have suited me anyway, although it's a beautiful hat, kind of Western style, which normally does suit me.
So I returned it today.

Hmmm, I still think it meant something positive, but maybe also that people can just be different, and not every style (inner or outer) suites every person, but that doesn't matter,
makes life more interesting.

I think we (and some others) should talk about some little things, but after that, the last thing I want is that you get the feeling, I expect you to talk further about other subjects.
We might talk about birds or whatever we want, or nothing at all...
Maybe I am just not fitting into this forum...

Found this today, but one shouldn't think I'm kind of a Christian missionary, I am more a multi-religious Christian :

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sz81dIfwf4Y

This film we were watching today, spiritual, Native-American theme :

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gGLNfhtHqWs

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As for me, all I know is I know nothing.

In every person there is a sun, just let them shine. 🌄

posted February 11, 2021 06:55 PM            

“The imagination might, alas! too easily, picture a crisis, in the future of the republic, when virtue might have lost her seat in the hearts of the people, when the degrading greed of money-getting might have undermined the nobler aspirations of their souls, when luxury and effeminacy might have emasculated the rugged courage and endurance upon which the safety of states depends, when corruption might thrive and liberty might languish, when self might stand above patriotism, self above country, mammon before God, and when the patriot might read on every hand the sure presage:
Ill fares the land, to hastening ills a prey,
Where wealth accumulates and men decay!”

posted February 12, 2021 04:53 PM            

I would like to write well expressed, thoroughly thought through posts in acceptable English,
but my time is really very limited at the moment, so I thought, I'll just be spontanuous for a change.

Couldn't watch your video, not available it says.

The film is spiritually kind of deep,
and after you asked me about my oppinion about it,
I got the idea that God/fate/...might have sent me the film to send it to you.
The young guy, main actor, somehow reminds me a bit about you, which I realized only after your question.

In the beginning of the film he seems to not have found his true inner self yet,
he doesn't use his abilities in the way that comes from his heart,
but that changes when he goes through a spiritual journey.
This character could maybe portray someone with his Sun conjunct to his Neptune
(you mentioned in some other thread to have this placement),
at least in that live-situation/ time of his life in that film - that is my intuition.

You can live every part of your chart on different levels of evolvement ofcourse.
And growth takes time and life experience, no judgement included here.

Yesterday I coincidentally read a new thread about Scorpio-moons, and some posts written by you there.
I know some planet-placements and the time they acurred by heart and by your Pluto-placement I knew your approximate age, which is a bit younger than I visualized when talking to you up to now.

Also I realized by reading about some unfortunate experiences in your past,
problems understanding some people
and your Pluto, Mercury, Saturn and Venus in Scorpio-placement,
that things are not that easy for you, and I'm trying to understand and feel compassion.

But that is not at all easy for me, because I am used to open and honest thinking and communication,
and my life experience tells me (and not only mine),
that that is the ONLY way of living together on this earth without destroying eachother through misunderstanding, injustice, mobbing, gaslighting...

The unevolved ways of living a Sun/Neptune conjunction plus those Scorpio-placements,
what would that be,
and how would all this look like after salvation to the highest level ?

A difference like heaven and hell.

I did not
- like you twisted things and distracted from the main point -
judge you one sided or totally,
in the contrary,
I even wrote it would be no problem and all was just human...

People in my real life tell me constantly, that I am MUCH, MUCH, MUCH too nice,
also now once more...

Simply admit finally what you did right after my very first post, secretly going on and on in many different threads,
in sarcastic posts mobbing me (at the same time keeping contact with me, behaving friendly in this thread here)
without ever asking me anything about what you might have not liked about my first or any other posts.
Although I repeatedly asked you and the others involved to communicate openly instead of mobbing...

Stop being secretive and projecting, twisting around and distracting.

You and some others are not only judgemental, but far worse, and I have to be a real saint to not become judgemental about it.

Every child in school knows that this is unacceptable behaviour.
Or did you teach your twelve year old different ?
Would you like her to be treated like that at the very first day in a new school ?

Stands with a Fist Heavenly Love has spoken.

The hat is still an option, depends also on you...

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As for me, all I know is I know nothing.

In every person there is a sun, just let them shine. 🌄

posted February 13, 2021 12:52 AM              

quote:

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Originally posted by HeavenlyLove:
Read the whole tbread and others, my eyes are crashing, late bere , will come tomorrow...

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In this thread, HeavenlyLove ... you have used the word "mobbing", but in a context where "mocking" could also have been used.

So ... because English is not your first language ... please confirm that you are indeed referring to mobbing rather than mocking.*

posted February 13, 2021 12:55 AM              

Just wanted to briefly mention that I have met Chanterelle in person (we live in the same state), and I'm pretty good at seeing into people (especially in person). Anyways, in person, she struck me as having a good heart.

I doubt she meant to say anything purposely to bother or upset you. It seems like a misunderstanding, and quite likely partially cultural as well as this very impersonal, low information way of communicating. It is easy to misunderstand folks at times under one of those conditions, but especially so when under both.

posted February 13, 2021 01:07 PM            

in case I should have been wrong, which I don't know yet, I want to apologize and ask for forgiveness.
In case I was not wrong, you had my forgiveness all along, since the beginning of time and before.

Normally I never accuse anybody of anything without being absolutely sure plus offering open communication.
In this case I asked two other people who are near to me in person, how they analyse the situation,
and also they didn't have any doubt about my observations.
In the contrary, one said I was naive as usual to even doubt at all.
But still everything could be a chain of misunderstandings and 'negative' syncronicities, if there is such thing.
Maybe even some yet unidentified forces behind all this...?

I will explain what happened from my view, regarding this all later today,
but first something more important :

I got a bit ill today (a virus I guess), slept longer and had a deep dream concerning us all here, I will explain in a minute,
but first a few small things :

Chanterelle, when I said 'the last thing I want', there was a misunderstanding, will explain later.

I will post this now, is not finished, will continue later....

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As for me, all I know is I know nothing.

In every person there is a sun, just let them shine. 🌄

posted February 13, 2021 07:52 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Chanterelle:
One other possible language misunderstanding on my part: when you said “the last thing I want”... that’s a phrase I understood as “I don’t want”. I wasn’t trying to be evasive; I thought you were inviting me to talk about whatever was on my mind.

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Now I see multiple possibilities of what you could exactly mean, just the medium's and language-differnces fault, not ours.

At the time when I wrote it, I meant that I would find it necessary to talk about the very important points (few little things I called it),
but after we would be finished, the last thing I wanted, was, that you would feel obliged to talk further with me about anything.
Only if we both wanted, we could - just wanted to leave it open.
Because I sometimes had the impression, that you might partly (!) only still be talking to me,
because you wanted to keep me in a 'good mood' and avoid the main subject.
And I really never want any kind of 'slaves', who 'serve' me, because they are afraid that I might otherwise speak about certain topics or even take revenge.
I do want to speak about certain things, if they harm me or others and/or my or their reputation, but never out of revenge.
I tried to be as indirect as possible, in your interest, so it might have been too unclear to understand,
specially if you didn't even know that I was referring to a problem, that was possibly not even existing in reality,
but only within some vicious circle of misunderstandings...?

Will explain about the reasons for my perceptions, visible in other threads, in which I didn't participate, later,
otherwise it will get too complex, other points are more important first.

I am just realizing, that it is very difficult for me, to express what I mean in English in the very important subtle intermediate tones (had to look that translation up amoung some others).
For example the sentences with the 'slaves' could come over very wrong, even without face expression.
The word 'even' here in this last sentence could also mean two different things, I meant 'specially'.

posted February 13, 2021 08:52 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Hi HeavenlyLove,

Just wanted to briefly mention that I have met Chanterelle in person (we live in the same state), and I'm pretty good at seeing into people (especially in person). Anyways, in person, she struck me as having a good heart.

I doubt she meant to say anything purposely to bother or upset you. It seems like a misunderstanding, and quite likely partially cultural as well as this very impersonal, low information way of communicating. It is easy to misunderstand folks at times under one of those conditions, but especially so when under both.

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Thank you for your fine forensic analysis, Mr Galactic.

https://www.google.com/search?q=YouTube+thank+you+for+that+fine+forensic+analysis&client=firefox-b-m&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwixsaz4nujuAhWWDmMBHaNZCZ8Q_AUIBigB&bi w=887&bih=391#imgrc=oqDLUQjpz3uvYM

No, no irony here, just a joke 🙂
(a scene from 'Titanic', where the old lady speakes to Mr. Bodine, but the link doesn't work, even not with url...)

posted February 13, 2021 09:51 PM            

In this thread, HeavenlyLove ... you have used the word "mobbing", but in a context where "mocking" could also have been used.

So ... because English is not your first language ... please confirm that you are indeed referring to mobbing rather than mocking.*

[ * mobbing = ganging up with others, to engage in a group attack upon one person. .... mocking = attempting to ridicule another person.]

Thank you for the helpful question, which could prevent further misunderstandings.

I didn't know the word 'mocking'.
But mobbing and mocking have to be defined exactly, in each cultural and subcultural background these terms will most likely be used a bit differently, I guess.

What I meant was mobbing, combined with mocking,
but in my (sub-)culture the term mobbing is not only used in very severe cases in work-invironments for example.
In this forum without PM-function,
the 'ganging up' could have only developt in a very indirectly expressed way, in form of hints, hidden in sarcasm (which I come across here a lot, almost a secretive 'language' sometimes.),
except for the people who have contact via email or phone,
but even they can use these hints partly to amuse themselves through belittleling the victim and showing power.
Deep down there is always something else going on in the people who take part.

posted February 13, 2021 10:11 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Chanterelle:
HeavenlyLove,
I am so sorry! I had no idea that you felt I meant anything unkind in my original welcome to you. There was truly no disrespect intended; just playful banter based on the first thing that popped into my head when I saw your quote. I’m realizing how poorly my sense of humor comes across at times, and you may have thought that some general statements were directed at you when they weren’t. I obviously need to watch my occasional tendency to explode with oblivious enthusiasm... you really do seem to have a lovely energy about you, and I hope I haven’t scared you off. You must be thinking of someone else with the Sun conjunct Neptune, though — I’m a Libra Sun, Sagittarius ascendant and Neptune. How about you?
In fact, if you would be willing to just tell me exactly what else I said that was unkind or disrespectful, I really would like to improve upon it. Perhaps it’s just that certain conversations die out for no apparent reason? I have wondered that myself a time or two... it’s not always fun having the last word.
On a personal note: I used to dance to that Paul Simon song with my best friend almost every day through the summer when we were twelve.

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posted February 13, 2021 10:52 PM            

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-yN6MR4XraY

This is from Nahko Bear, also deep going lyrics and beautiful pictures :

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YsgP8LkEopM

We both have those energies in common, and some other things.
I'm just not sure about the privacy-problem, never posted anything in the open internet before...never used any social networks eigther...I'm living a rather natural life without much media.
I blocked for example google and all kinds of cookies, I really dislike big brother watching everything...George Orwell is now...
Will continue...

Edit :

Another one with birds and other animals, the singer has such a beautiful voice, must be Taurus or Libra in her chart.
Physically she looks like a Libra Sun or ascendant to me, her arms, fingers, beautiful, symetric face.
I guess Libra Sun.

posted February 14, 2021 10:52 AM            

Not sure if the link will work, explanations about my interpretations/ perceptions of this thread and other posts somewhere else will follow.
I will edit this post, unless someone will answer inbetween, then I will continue in a new post.

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/005654.html

First I wasn't sure at all if this could have anything to do with me introducing myself here,
only after reading some (not all) of the following answeres there of others,
I didnt find any other explanation for the partly extremely cryptic but emotional and ironic reactions,
than that this was referring to me.

And this style with hidden hints went on and on in other threads,
always exactly accuring at the right timing after I posted something somewhere,
and the contents of the sarcastic hints fitting to the contents of my posts.
Some people were (very much seemingly) also talking badly about me to eachother in whole sentences,
pretending it was meant in general, but never without sarcasm or even hidden, bad insults.
I always tried to be loving and friendly to everybody.

As I said, I asked two people in real life what they percieved, they were even more convinced than I was...
And we are not the kind of people who judge too fast, we always try to stay in reality and look for the truth,
even if it should mean a great disadvantage for us.
So I am open also to be wrong about this all,
actually I hope to be.
But even if not, then this is human reality and also OK and necessary,
in a certain way at least, from a certain perspective everything dark is necessary for the development of all beings.
Which doesn't mean one can just continue this way.
Whenever we are ready to understand and change,
we should let necessary transformations really follow, I think.

Sometimes Devine Love needs sacrifice.
Nobody is perfect, me included, but we can all try.