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Topic: Venus in Scorpio- Submissive??
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aquaspryt69 unregistered
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posted January 11, 2009 07:31 PM
My God, this is so true. I do this! But not in any relationship, just the wrong ones. Venus in Scorpio conjunct Asc IP: Logged |
aquaspryt69 unregistered
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posted January 11, 2009 07:55 PM
In typical Scorp fashion, I love submission and being submissive to my man. I like it a bit rough as well. I like goading him with "Think you're man enough to take me?" Gawd what a turn on!! And, yes, we do detach. We act/think/feel differently when we are having sex as opposed to making love. Yes, there is a difference!
And I am just like some of the others with this placement: I give only so many chances, once done it's done. There is no regret and no going back. Revenge happens DURING the relationship as a sort of "lesson". After the relationship I couldn't be bothered. IP: Logged |
DepTaurus Knowflake Posts: 2262 From: canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 28, 2011 11:44 AM
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Swift Freeze Knowflake Posts: 550 From: One World Registered: Nov 2009
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posted June 30, 2011 09:35 PM
Hello meta, i'm curious as to in what way you are suggesting Venus in Scorpios are submissive. Are you suggesting that if a Venusian Scorpio is attracted to someone they become submissive towards them? In what ways would or have you seen this occuring. I am fairly guarded, I wouldn't jump headlong into a situation and I definitely wouldn't describe myself as hopelessly bound or as handing myself over. I am submissive in the sense that I'm not say a stereotypical Aries, "Hey I want you, now!" its more along the lines of, "I like you, have you noticed, so what're you going to do about it?" Very much drawing on the supposed traits of charm and magnetism. I much prefer them to make the first move however, from my perspective my initial attraction is obvious. A lot of attention focused on them and I eye them a lot, they become my focus. Personally I don't understand how anyone could miss these cues because I literally will not take my eyes off them. Which probably makes a lot of people uncomfortable I understand that but thats just how i'm wired.I also feel similarly to MVM, it has to be a mutual thing, if they aren't attracted to me, then my initial attraction will completely dissapear. The greatest attraction and turn on to me is that they find me attractive and then vice versa, its a mutual want situation, the tension and intensity is best at an unspoken, I want to rip your clothes off now along with, I don't want this conversation to ever end. If I am not attracted to them but they are to me, then I usually talk to them and be honest about my non-feelings so that they don't get hung up on unrequited love should they be prone to such. Probably the only aspect where I am so open with my feelings even if they are non-feelings. If I am attracted, no matter how much I usually won't admit it to them or anyone else until I feel some incontrovertible admittance on their part. Something concrete or solid that gives me some security. I'm also a great listener and remember everything people say or do, I consider it important, how can you know someone if you don't pay attention to them? There are also a great many subtle indicators of peoples' personalities and deeper interests. The things that can really clue you in to how people feel, what their likes and dislikes are, what they want and need, their passions and so much more. Other forms of submission are situational. ------------------ Learn lots. Don't judge. Laugh for no reason. Be nice. Seek Happiness. Follow your dreams. IP: Logged |
Xiiro Knowflake Posts: 1748 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted June 30, 2011 10:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by meta_4: Correct me if i'm wrong, please, but it has been my experience that Venus in Scorpio men (maybe women?) are very submissive. They're completely in control and contained usually, but once introduced to someone they're attracted to all power is lost. They're gone. Helplessly bound. They hand themselves over to their beloved immediately- even if the feelings are not mutual or the relationship is not exclusive.Now, perhaps this is not an accurate observation, as i am strictly basing this off of my interactions (which are influenced by my chart)...? Thoughts? I'm just curious if this true for all Scorpio-Venus individuals or if this is a result from my OWN chart...?
I have Venus in Scorpio in the 8th House and I don't consider what I do “submission”. I feel as though my Scorpio is too guarded to submit without cause. I think it's best described by observing how scorpions mate in the wild. The male scorpion meets his partner face to face, grabs her by the claws, and they begin to dance (this dance can last up to an hour or more). In some species, the male will give the female little stings, to get her going on a nice buzz (so she doesn't eat him after). The male leads the female around by the claws, face to face until he finds a safe place to deposit his sperm. Once he finds a good spot, he drops his sperm and dances her over it to impregnate her.... (Then he runs like hell before she eats him). When I first meet a person I engage them face to face, in an psychological dance. Flirtation is about emotionally and psychologically guiding the situation in a way that keeps me safe from emotional harm, while discovering how much the other person is willing to expose. If the situation is right and a person's ego is strong, I may make small flirtatious jabs at a person to make them feel more comfortable about exposing their vulnerability. Once the flirtation crosses to the point of sexual or relationship interest, I hint toward and guide the person into expressing their feelings.... Then I run away before they eat me (Haha just kidding). I think it is important to note, that (at least in the case of my Scorpio Venus) the Scorpio Venus person is exposing their self at the same rate their partner is. It is a game of equal compromises. It may sound like a lot of work for someone to go through, but Scorpio gets hurt easily and feels they are capable of harming others if they lack command of their self. Besides, getting to know and value a person through slow infusion is a very intoxicating and enjoyable process (it's the after effects that either bear fruit, or end in death... or both!). IP: Logged |
zanarkand112 Knowflake Posts: 142 From: Maryville, TN USA Registered: Jan 2010
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posted July 01, 2011 05:10 AM
I would say...no. Venus in Scorpio is so unbelievably guarded, and they usually try to manipulate the other person to say that they have feelings before they will admit to feeling the connection as well. They are so scared of rejection, but to me this fear overpowers them so much that they can become self absorbed and not see that what they do to protect themselves hurts the other person a lot of the time.I would say that if a Scorpio Venus is overly submissive, they are actually a covert control freak in hiding. Just give it some time...it will come out. Their silence is how they control the situation with power... IP: Logged |
Dinobleue9 Knowflake Posts: 143 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 01, 2011 07:27 PM
Ok, there is a Scorpio guy with Scorpio Venus that I'm interested in, that I know is at least interested in me. But it seems to me that I've had to instigate every conversation. He never texts me, but if I text him he's totally open to chatting and it'll go on for hours. What gives?? I'm sure he knows I like him, but should I just keep enforcing it? Don't Scorpios also like a chase and a mystery and a challenge?!You Scorpio Venuses are confusing. I love you for it IP: Logged |
blugrey Knowflake Posts: 1006 From: Nowhere Registered: Nov 2010
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posted July 01, 2011 07:31 PM
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Xiiro Knowflake Posts: 1748 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 01, 2011 08:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dinobleue9: Ok, there is a Scorpio guy with Scorpio Venus that I'm interested in, that I know is at least interested in me. But it seems to me that I've had to instigate every conversation. He never texts me, but if I text him he's totally open to chatting and it'll go on for hours. What gives?? I'm sure he knows I like him, but should I just keep enforcing it? Don't Scorpios also like a chase and a mystery and a challenge?!You Scorpio Venuses are confusing. I love you for it
terms like "He should know" are the downfall in a relationship with a Venus in Scorpio. If he talks to you for hours "Shouldn't you know" he likes you also? The question is, what are you looking for him to do? The Venus in Scorpio guy may feel intensely about you, but doesn't want to push or scare you. Remember, everything going on inside is intense for this Venus. Scorpios like black and white scenarios, laying your feelings out on the table (in a non accusatory way) is a good way to get respect and show this person they are safe to do the same. Other factors have to be considered too. If this person has a strong Gemini or Sag influencing their Venus, He may like intense hour-long flirtation with lot's of people. IP: Logged |
Dinobleue9 Knowflake Posts: 143 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 02, 2011 05:16 AM
So you're saying it's pretty safe to assume he does like me? And that I should be even more direct, like instead of just making the effort to talk to him I should say "Hey I like you and want to get to know you better"? I feel like my talking to him in the first place makes that obvious! AND, he does have a Scorpio Sun- shouldn't I retain some sort of challenge?? His Mars and ASC are in Aquarius too....Please elaborate. I need all the info i can get! IP: Logged |
Xiiro Knowflake Posts: 1748 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 02, 2011 07:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by Dinobleue9: So you're saying it's pretty safe to assume he does like me? And that I should be even more direct, like instead of just making the effort to talk to him I should say "Hey I like you and want to get to know you better"? I feel like my talking to him in the first place makes that obvious! AND, he does have a Scorpio Sun- shouldn't I retain some sort of challenge?? His Mars and ASC are in Aquarius too....Please elaborate. I need all the info i can get!
Well that adds a big twist, cause Aquarius can equate things like “intriguing conversation” to sex. What are his Pluto and Uranus signs? If his rising is in Aquarius, his Scorpio planets could fall in the 11th house. If his Uranus is in Scorpio and/or his Scorpio planets are in his 11th house, his Scorpio planets could have an affinity for letting his Aquarian side take control. There is also the matter of his Mars possibly being in his 12th House (which could show up in the chart of a person who has trouble initiating things). Venus in Scorpio “Values” “Penetration” into the soul, and Mars in Aquarius “Does” that by “Knowing” the person. “I like you and want to get to know you better” could sound like a completely ambiguous statement to Aquarius. With Scorpio and Aquarius there is a conflict between intense sustained emotions and intense sustained imagination. The head “Knows” exactly what is going on, while the emotions attempt to “Penetrate” beyond whatever they think they know. A square between Venus and Mars could result in his Venus suggesting information based on a feeling and his Mars rationalizing it into nothing. Alternately his thoughts could stir his emotions into avenues completely unrelated to anything that may be “fact”. There could also be a feeling of being trapped by his own head, in which case, being able to get out of the cage and text someone for a long time could be a huge indicator he is interested. Then when the phone stops, he spins back into brain-land and loses his sense of time and relationship to others. Something Scorpio and Aquarius share is an energy of emergence. Scorpio's energy is anchored inwardly to a deep internal place and emerges outward from the emotions. Aquarian energy is anchored outwardly to a vast spacious place and emerges outward from the mind. Both sign's extroverted actions are based on introverted conclusions, so expect the process of getting acquainted to take time. There are several possibilities. My suggestion is to just take things slow and appreciate things as they come. I would make an effort to be in his presence. Physical proximity is a great way to taunt Scorpio into coming out and flirting. The fixed nature of his chart likes things to progress slowly (if at all). I sense a mutable energy in you that may like to fix, resolve, and “get things over with”. If that is the case, this is a wonderful experience in acceptance and patience =) IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 5299 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted July 02, 2011 12:13 PM
I'd say,in general,all Water Venuses have this tendency. And,if one asks boys,they'll them that's what makes them so attractive.IP: Logged |
Dinobleue9 Knowflake Posts: 143 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 02, 2011 02:05 PM
Wow thank you so much for your detail! Mutable energy eh? Hmm. I have Aqua Sun in the 8th, lol. Cancer Moon 12th, Cancer ASC, Aries Mars 10th and Cap Venus in the 6th. Not sure exactly where the mutable energy would be coming from His Mars is in the 1st, and it's actually trining his Venus in early Scorp, which is also conjunct his Mercury and both of our Plutos in his 9th House. His Sun is in the 10th. Uranus in Sag in 11th. I AM trying to get in his physical proximity, but that's part of why I'm asking questions. I'm not sure how to approach him- if I should keep initiating the conversation or if I should let him come to me. Getting the input from the other Venus Scorpios seems helpful. Btw, I kinda feel like I hijacked this thread. Sorry! IP: Logged |
Xiiro Knowflake Posts: 1748 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 02, 2011 06:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dinobleue9: Wow thank you so much for your detail! Mutable energy eh? Hmm. I have Aqua Sun in the 8th, lol. Cancer Moon 12th, Cancer ASC, Aries Mars 10th and Cap Venus in the 6th. Not sure exactly where the mutable energy would be coming from His Mars is in the 1st, and it's actually trining his Venus in early Scorp, which is also conjunct his Mercury and both of our Plutos in his 9th House. His Sun is in the 10th. Uranus in Sag in 11th. I AM trying to get in his physical proximity, but that's part of why I'm asking questions. I'm not sure how to approach him- if I should keep initiating the conversation or if I should let him come to me. Getting the input from the other Venus Scorpios seems helpful. Btw, I kinda feel like I hijacked this thread. Sorry!
Ahh, then it wasn't a mutable “get things over with” energy, it was a cardinal, “lets get this thing started already” energy hehe. With the additional info you provided, I don't see anything wrong with being the initiator, If he wasn't interested in you at some level, he wouldn't invest his self. Just remember your Cardinal nature wants things (like interactions) to become bigger things (like relationships). Fixed nature wants to enjoy what is going on in the moment. It's fine to initiate, but make sure you know his comfort levels. Your Aquarius should know what it feels like when people try to push you. Slow and steady (with honest flirtation) wins the race. IP: Logged |
Swift Freeze Knowflake Posts: 550 From: One World Registered: Nov 2009
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posted July 02, 2011 07:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by VenusDiSirius: I'd say,in general,all Water Venuses have this tendency. And,if one asks boys,they'll them that's what makes them so attractive.
Can you elaborate please? As in what it is that makes them attractive. ------------------ Learn lots. Don't judge. Laugh for no reason. Be nice. Seek Happiness. Follow your dreams. IP: Logged | |