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katatonic
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posted December 30, 2008 10:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i agree with the gemini but i think not scorp, but leo. she was great at PLAYING queen, but though she was spiteful towards her enemies i don't think scorp was it...

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posted December 30, 2008 03:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought Scorpio more because of this combination of determination and allure. To keep a man seduced for eleven years and lose him only after winning... there is something very Scorpionic IMO.

But I can see what you mean by leonine influence.

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posted December 31, 2008 01:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
all the fixed signs are capable of that kind of doggedness, the reason i favour leo is because she was a born performer. did dances, plays, thought up great party themes and generally did the life-of-the-party thing to perfection. (also the determination was to be queen, not paramour!) of course she could have had scorp influence as well. as i mentioned she did have a spiteful streak, felt by a lot of people who were either ruined or ruined and beheaded...but henry did that sort of thing as well.

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posted January 01, 2009 03:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually , ann was born aroung May , only the year of birth is not clear it seems. Taurus would make sense , sensual, determined and stubborn...

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posted January 01, 2009 03:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well late may would be gemini, taurus WOULD suit her except for the intricate mental games she played with henry, although merc and/or venus there would account for that. i definitely feel there is some leo influence there too, asc or moon, maybe ..

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posted February 05, 2009 01:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am definitely convinced that there is Leo somewhere in Anne's chart, never thought of Gemini but it makes sense since she was charming, witty and sociable. Scorpio just seems a bit too obvious if you know what I mean. It would be interesting to see the aspects between Anne and Catherine.

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posted February 05, 2009 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is cool topic.
Maybe someone could do synastry charts
between catherine of aragon, anne, and jane seymour. i can't find any birth info on anyone.
But the combination of everyone would be sooo interesting.

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posted February 05, 2009 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've become quite a fan of the Tudors because of "The Tudors"!
It looks like Catharine may have been a Sagittarius. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_of_Aragon

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posted February 05, 2009 03:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, CAtherine`s and Henry`s dates are known actually.

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posted February 05, 2009 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So Dec 16 is the actual date of Catherine's birth then?

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posted February 05, 2009 03:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, the problem is that they only after their birth converted the calendar (Julian - Gregorian). But these are the right charts, according to the sources (astrotheme and Paul Westran`s book)




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posted February 05, 2009 03:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interestingly their exact Moon-Moon conjunction falls on the Sabian degree THE RULER OF A NATION

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posted February 07, 2009 02:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted February 07, 2009 04:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, the Sabian seems to verify that their birthtimes are really correct.

Funny, though, it`s the Sabian of my own GIZA. lol

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posted June 28, 2011 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 28, 2011 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She does seem like a Gemini with a Scorpio influence, too.

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posted June 28, 2011 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She does seem like a Gemini with a Scorpio influence, too.

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posted September 18, 2017 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini makes sense with her wit, cleverness, and ability to play mind games. Scorpio fits the contemporary descriptions of her dark eyes and rise to power. The thing with Scorpio though, is wouldn't someone with prominent placements in this sign be wiser to impeding doom?

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posted September 19, 2017 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was it love though?

For me. The story behind the Taj Mahal seems more like love

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posted September 19, 2017 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Agreed....Imho, the only person King Henry loved was himself...He even treated his own children very badly...refusing to allow his daughter Mary visitation with her mother when she was dying....Failing to make a suitable marriage match for Mary...deeming Mary and Elizabeth as illegitimate..... neglecting Elizabeth after executing her mother...even his son Edward was said to have been kept primarily under strict lock down, due to Henry's fear of germs...

Personally, I think that even if Jane Seymour his most beloved wife, had lived longer he would have also found some fault to complain about. From accounts of that time, it seems Henry had this odd tendency to idealize women then knock them off their pedestals upon whim. Perhaps his Cancer Sun and early loss of his mother impacted him psychologically. If he were alive now, he'd likely be classified under personality and/or mood disorders....

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