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Topic: Ann Boleyn - King Henry - Dangerous love
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venusdeindia
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posted December 28, 2008 10:47 PM
 
I just saw the Other Boleyn girl and was blown by this love story .she had a strange power over him to do what he did for her .
Ann BOLEYN,
born May 5, 1507 at 11:30 AM in Londres (United Kingdom)
Sun in 23°14 Taurus, AS in 28°04 Leo,
Moon in 10°33 Pisces, MC in 17°00 Taurus
Duc de Cornouailles HENRY TUDOR,
born January 1, 1511 at 8:09 AM in Richmond (United Kingdom)
Sun in 20°08 Capricorn, AS in 14°55 Capricorn,
Moon in 8°43 Aquarius, MC in 24°16 Scorpio IP: Logged |
venusdeindia
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posted December 28, 2008 10:51 PM
i dont see much in their natals except a venus - uranus conjunction , moon - mars conjunction and we know these two are exciting...but i think there should be some strong karma for him to execute her after he broke all rules for her...
i will look at the asteroids in detail later.
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jcweimpw
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 28, 2008 11:02 PM
Henry VIII was born June 28, 1491, He married Catherine of Aragon in 1509 at age 18.IP: Logged |
Got Gemini?
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posted December 28, 2008 11:08 PM
Damn good movie!------------------
Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚
And yes, i'm a guy! IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
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posted December 29, 2008 04:55 AM
You always choose the most fascinating couples.  And yes, dangerous love, I agree. From a first glance it seems that they have a mutual CHIRON-KARMA-dw, his NESSUS also opposes her KARMA and SUN (her Nessus is inconjunct his Karma). Hmm, I believe then he must have a conjunction of NESSUS and CHIRON natally. Oops did I use the wrong birthdate? Then this would have to be her synastry with her stepson, no?
Makes sense, too. EDIT:
I just read that the little boy died just months after his birth. However, I think it would also make sense to look at Henry`s synastry with Catherine, as it seems she loved him till her end. IP: Logged |
venusdeindia
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posted December 29, 2008 06:39 AM
oops i have the wrong birth dates ???well i will make a new chart for henry then for 1490 and it seems anne's is undecided between 1500 or 1501. lets see ... IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
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posted December 29, 2008 07:00 AM
With the new charts there is an exact conjunction of his Moon to her Venus. Makes sense to me.Also, his Eros conjuncts her Pluto, that one makes VERY much sense. (and all on my own True Node, hehe) IP: Logged |
yellowmoon
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From: Zagreb, Croatia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 29, 2008 10:41 AM
@venusdeindiaYes, I belive those are wrong birth dates. Anne Boleyn was probably born around 1501. Henry VIII was born 28th of June 1491. IP: Logged |
Mama Mia
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posted December 29, 2008 10:58 AM
I was going to rent this movie but it will be coming on cable the 10th of January so I can wait, but I heard it is a very good movie and I was suggest by a friend of mine to watch it, something similar was going on in my life she said and the movie would help..IP: Logged |
evander
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posted December 29, 2008 11:03 AM
quote:
Damn good movie!
really? I thought it was mediocre at best despite being Natalie Portman's huge fan :S . I think it's because I was already familiar with the story and many different angles present. The Tudors though are another story. Amazing tv show. A very well rounded story IP: Logged |
buena36
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posted December 29, 2008 11:20 AM
Here is Synastry Chart for Ann and Henry:  Now you can see better. Buena ------------------
If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something! IP: Logged |
blue moon
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From: U.K
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 29, 2008 11:23 AM
Henry's mother died in 1503. He married Catherine of Aragon in 1509. That is not his birth chart. Anne Boleyn's date of birth is unknown. yours truly, b moon, history bore IP: Logged |
evander
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posted December 29, 2008 12:04 PM
astrotheme.fr claims her birth date is May 5, 1507 at 11:30 AM in Londres (United Kingdom)it's not even time unknown :???? very weird most sites aren't even sure if she's 1501 or 1507 birth quote:
Anne Boleyn is said to have been born at Blickling Castle in 1501. However, due to a lack of parish records from the period, historians do not agree on this date.
im interested what in his chart shows difficulty to conceive a male heir
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Lara
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posted December 29, 2008 01:37 PM
Henry VIII was born 28th June, 1491 in Greenwich, London.IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted December 29, 2008 01:50 PM
OK
Henry became King when he was 18, on 23rd April 1509. He was married to Catelina (Catherine) for 20 yrs. Henry's mother died in childbirth in the Tower of London in 1503. IP: Logged |
blue moon
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posted December 29, 2008 02:29 PM
He did have a male heir ~ Edward VI. He also had an illegitimate son, Henry Fitzroy. Neither lived above 20. His son by Catherine of Aragon, also called Henry, died as a baby. This is a period of history were unfortunately this was commonplace. It is only because he was king and a surviving son himself that he was under pressure to produce a male heir.  Meanwhile. She must have strong Gemini on her chart.
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Lara
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posted December 29, 2008 02:42 PM
He had several illegitimate children with servants too  IP: Logged |
Amber24
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posted December 29, 2008 03:19 PM
I feel such a connection with Anne Boleyn. She is my all time favorite historical figure. I have to say though, while the Other Boleyn Girl was a REALLY good movie, it was TERRIBLY historically innacurate. I've read so many biographies and historical books on Anne/Henry that I couldn't enjoy the movie really for its errors ... Which was a shame cause its a great movie (fictional wise).Mary and Anne's affairs with the King happend years apart, they did not overlap like they did in the movie. Also, Mary was remarried when Anne was married to the King. The most historical portrayal of this story is HBO's The Tudors. Everything in the show is SO accurate and I highly recomend it to anyone who is interested in the Henry/Anne relationship. ------------------
Sun - Pisces
Moon - Leo
Mercury - Aquarius
Venus - Aquarius
Mars - Taurus
Rising - Cancer IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted December 29, 2008 06:24 PM
well i have to agree about the mistakes in the book...though the author is following someone else's research, that was the first time i heard that mary was the youngest child, always thought it was anne. studied her intensely in high school...her date of birth is the subject of a LOT of speculation but no one has any way of really establishing it..even today the british don't mark the time of birth, and back then if the day even got written down officially it was a big exception...but...henry was definitely NOT born in 1511! the duc de cornwall was probably one of the dead sons of catherinealways thought anne was a gemini myself...i wonder if anyone is good enough at rectifying to come up with some answers that bear out the facts?? IP: Logged |
venusdeindia
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posted December 29, 2008 10:19 PM
i give up, its not possible to be sure about the dates  IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted December 30, 2008 05:15 AM
venus -his birthdate is accurate, trust me. I know a lot about Henry  IP: Logged |
buena36
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posted December 30, 2008 05:46 AM
Here is Ann:
www.astrotheme.com/portraits/fCQK52yb6s2x.htm - 240k Here is Henry:
www.astrotheme.com/portraits/S3knZ9e887VY.htm - 191k ------------------
If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something! IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
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posted December 30, 2008 05:55 AM
Yes, I also think his birthdate is accurate. I also think the birthdate of his first wife is accurate.
Interestingly him and Catherine share an exact MOON conjunct MOON, on the Sabian of "THE RULER OF A NATION". Seems pretty fitting to me.
BTW if you do the chart with astro.com you have to modify the birthdates a bit. That has to do with the converting of Julian calendar to Gregorian calendar (it is a difference of about 10 days I think)
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Lara
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posted December 30, 2008 06:00 AM
Buena, this is the wrong chart and wrong birthdate!!!!
This is Henry's SON not Henry Henry was NOT born in 1511, sorry IP: Logged |
Aen
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posted December 30, 2008 08:46 AM
Buena,Nice effort, but it is not this Henry Tudor, but his son who died when baby. It is also clearly stated on astrotheme site. "Henry Tudor, born January 1, 1511 in Richmond, was the first son of King Henry VIII and Queen Katherine of Aragon . He died only some months after his birth."
Also, about Anne, there is stated that
"The birth controversy
Due to a lack of parish records from the period, historians do not agree when Anne Boleyn was born. Evidence from the 16th century is contradictory, with several dates having been put forward by various authors. An Italian historian, writing in 1600, suggested that she had been born in 1499, while Sir Thomas More's son-in-law suggested a much later date of 1512. All other guesses fall within this period of 1499 to 1512."
For astrological guesswork I've always thought Anne Gem/Scorp combination.
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