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Topic: Arthurian asteroids
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posted January 08, 2009 09:17 AM
I found some asteroids that may relate to ARthurian legends.Camelot: 9500 Merlin: 2598 Excalibur: 9499 Galahad 2082 Guinevere 2483 Lancelot 2041 Isolda 211 Tristan 1966 Arthur 2597 Knight 29391 Parsifal 2095 Whiteknight 17612 Ywain 9501 Stonehenge 9325 Ireland 5029 Kent 28346 Gawain 2054 Morgan 3180 EDIT: I fixed the wrong number for Guinevere. Thanks for pointing it out, Meta.
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posted January 08, 2009 09:31 AM
DDYou red my mind - i have just started a thread where i talked about those asteroids!  IP: Logged |
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posted January 08, 2009 10:07 AM
I guess, our minds work alike.  I checked my natal:
Merlin: conjunct Sun and Mercury Excalibur: opposes Venus and Tristan Guinevere: conjunct Spirit Lancelot: opposes Kent (and my name asteroid) Isolda: conjuncts IC and Aura Tristan: conjuncts Venus, Knight and Stonehenge, opposes Excalibur Arthur: conjuncts Sun-Moon-mp and Antivertex, opposes Eros Parsifal: trine NN Whiteknight: conjunct Kaali and Karma YWAIN: trines ASC Ireland: conjuncts Mars, Amor and ASC EDIT:
LOL I had just the idea to look up Corneville (which reminded me of Cornwall) and you have three guesses where it is located! Guessed it?
Yes, it is on 22° Libra conjunct my DNA, Sappho, Babel, Babylon, Musa opposing Chiron and Phoinix. Those degrees in Libra are sucking in my asteroids! IP: Logged |
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posted January 08, 2009 10:20 AM
Oh how could I forget Moran Le Fay? Fay: 4820 Morgan: 3180
Fay: conjunct Spirit and Guinevere Morgan: conjunct Neptune and True Node, oposes White Knight IP: Logged |
Tigerlily Knowflake Posts: 3 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 08, 2009 10:46 AM
Don't forget 2054 Gawain and 29391 Knight.IP: Logged |
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posted January 08, 2009 11:27 AM
Very nice DarkDreamer!I just checked some: My mars and MC conj Camelot 0º Uranus opp Excalibur 1º Karma opp Guinevere 0º Draco/Natal Stonehenge opp Moon Artuhr opp Sun and Alma DNA opp Exalibur IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 318 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 08, 2009 01:53 PM
DD i knew you felt familiar!! haven't looked up most of these but the ones i have are in crucial spots...and the period has always resonated with me deeply.IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 08, 2009 02:25 PM
my natal (under 2degs) FAY conjunct JUNO MORGAN trine JUPITER CAMELOT trine URANUS MERLIN square JUNO/KARMA/SUN/MERCURY - all exact EXCALIBUR opposing PLUTO GALAHAD trine NN SMITHER trine GALAHAD LANCELOT trine MORGAN ARTHUR conjunct KARMA/JUNO ARTHUR opposes SUN/MERCURY STONEHENGE conjunct WHITEKNIGHT IRELAND trine WHITEKNIGHT/CHIRONArthur seems prominent lol IP: Logged |
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posted January 08, 2009 02:46 PM
Katatonic,yes, I think these asteroid theme groups draw "old friends" together.  We should have an own topic for every asteroid theme. Personally I relate most to the ARthurian, Sumerian, Egyptian, Roman / Greek and Atlantean themes. IP: Logged |
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posted January 08, 2009 03:31 PM
Too funny, I didn't check them all, but at a glance I saw one that was of interest to me, namely Whiteknight. I've always suffered from the "waiting for the knight in shining armour"-syndrome or alternately called savior/waif love story type.Whiteknight is conjunct my DC, hehehehehehe... ------------------ Cancer Rising 21'44 Gemini Sun 1'33 Libra Moon 18'39 Taurus Mercury 16'36 Cancer Venus 15'15 Gemini Mars 4'28 Sagittarius Jupiter 6'39 Libra Saturn 28'55 Sagittarius Uranus 7'20 Sagittarius Neptune 28'33 Libra Pluto 27'14 IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 40 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 08, 2009 06:20 PM
DD,Guinevere is 2483, not 2083. I just tried it and i got the "Smith" asteriod, so i thought i'd give you a heads up.  IP: Logged |
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posted January 09, 2009 10:37 AM
I looked a bit more closely at my Arthurian asteroids and aspects. Those are the ones I found: - ARTHUR on 21.6 Capricorn conjunct ANTIVERTEX on 21.4 Capricorn conjunct SUN-MOON-MIDPOINT on 21.5 Capricorn conjunct GAWAIN on 21.9 Capricorn, square CHIRON on 20.0 Aries and also square DNA on 20.3 Libra and opposite EROS on 20.9 Cancer.
The Sabian is for 22 Capricorn is pretty frustrating: BY ACCEPTING DEFEAT GRACEFULLY A GENERAL REVEALS NOBILITY OF CHARACTER - GUINEVERE on 10.2 Capricorn conjunct SPIRIT on 10.6 Capricorn, square PLUTO on 9.0 Libra and inconjunct PARSIFAL on 11.5 LEO The Sabian for 11 Capricorn A LARGE GROUP OF PHEASANT ON A PRIVATE ESTATE - LANCELOT on 16.8 Scorpio trine SATURN on 16.9 Cancer trine JUNO on 16.9 Pisces, square MOON on 17.1 Aquarius and inconjunct KARMA on 16.0 Gemini
- MERLIN on 24.6 Sagittarius conjunct SUN on 25.9 Sagittarius conjunct MERCURY on 25.0 Sagittarius, sextile PSYCHE on 24.0 Aquarius
- MORGAN on 12.1 Sagittarius conjunct TRUE NODE on 10.2 Sagittarius, opposite WHITEKNIGHT on 13.7 Gemini, trine PARSIFAL on 11.5 Leo - TRISTAN on 3.7 Capricorn conjunct VENUS on 6.1 Capricorn conjunct KNIGHT and STONEHENGE on 1.9 Capricorn conjunct VESTA on 1.3 Capricorn, square ISOLDA on 3.2 Aries There is a very exact conjunction of KNIGHT, STONEHENGE and VESTA, so I looked at the Sabian: THREE ROSE WINDOWS IN A GOTHIC CHURCH ONE DAMAGED BY WAR (Makes me think of Avalon somehow) - ISOLDA on 3.2 Aries conjunct IC on 4.9 Aries, trine MARS on 5.1 Sagittarius, IRELANd on 5.0 Sagittarius and AMOR on 2.1 Sagittarius - PARSIFAL on 11.5 Leo trine TRUE NODE on 10.2 Sagittarius and MORGAN on 12.1 Sagittarius - YWAIN on 7.6 Leo trine MARS on 5.1 Sagittarius, ASC on 7.0 Sagittarius and IRELAND on 5.0 Sagittarius - WHITEKNIGHT on 13.8 Gemini conjunct KARMA on 16.0 Gemini and SN on 10.1 Gemini, opposite MORGAN on 12.1 Sagittarius
And the Draco`s (only conjunction / opposition) DRACO MORGAN on 1.9 ARIES conjunct IC on 4.9 Aries conjunct ISOLDA on 3.1 Aries ARTHUR on 21.6 Capricorn and GAWAIN on 21.9 Capricorn conjunct DR MC on 24.8 Capricorn LANCELOT on 16.8 Scorpio opposite DR GALAHAD on 18.8 Taurus
DR TRISTAN on 23.5 Aries conjunct CHIRON on 20.0 Aries and opposite DNA on 20.3 Libra DR ISOLDA on 23.0 Cancer conjunct Vertex on 21.4 Cancer and DESTINN on 23.3 Cancer and EROS on 20.9 Cancer A WOMAN AND TWO MEN CASTAWAYS ON A SMALL ISLAND OF THE SOUTHSEAS DR KNIGHT on 21.7 Aries ocnjunct CHIRON on 20.0 Aries and opposite DNA on 20.3 Libra DR STONEHENGE conjunct Chiron, oposite DNA ISOLDA on 3.1 Aries opposite KARMA on 5.8 Libra GALAHAD on 29.0 Capricorn conjunct DR PlUTO on 28.9 Capricorn - that is close! PARSIFAL on 11.5 Leo conjunct DR CHIRON on 9.8 Leo and opposite DR DNA on 10.1 Aquarius YWAIN on 7.6 Leo conjunct DR CHIRON on 9.8 Leo DR PARSIFAL on 1.3 Sagittarius conjunct AMOR on 2.1 Sagittarius
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posted January 09, 2009 10:46 AM
Now I understand. For a long time I have had dreams about a landscape now and then, and coincidentally saw the same landscape in a film, which made it easy for me to identify it with Glastonbury. But I did NOT know that Glastonbury is said to be the place of the portal to Avalon.
And now I also understand, why during that meditation, I was "dreaming" of an apple tree with ONE apple, only one. I just read that Avalon also carries the meaning of "apple". lol IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Moderator Posts: 377 From: peace.angel@live.com.au Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 09, 2009 10:52 AM
Camelot is on same degree as Sappho and an asteroid called Recogne (recognition?) Merlin on same degree as MC Galahad on same degree as North Node Excalibur is conjunct IC - 1 degree Lancelot is 3 degrees from MC Guinevere is on same degree as Wisdom, opposite Knight Parsifal conjunct Records, Magnanimity & Ywain & Isolda Palamedes on Galatic Centre degree Whiteknight is conjunct Saga & Nike Knight conjunct Memoria & Compassion, opposite Guinevere Tristan is conjunct PlutoIP: Logged |
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posted January 09, 2009 11:43 AM
I have an composite here, in which:Lancelot exactly conjuncts Pluto on the degree, that IQ once called the degree of "Twinsouls". That Lancelot / Pluto opposes Guinevere with 3,5° Guinevere is also conjunct Chiron, which falls onto the Aries point.
Isolda on 17.7 Aquarius trines Tristan on 17.7 Libra. (both persons name number is a 7; he has been born on the 7th of a day, me, I have been born at 7:07 a.m.) Karma sextiles Guinevere and trines Pluto / Lancelot.
Of course that composite also has Eros opposite Psyche, Isis conjunct Osiris and Ptah conjunct Sekhmet.
*sighs* Do you know that? That you KNOW you shouldn`t look, and yet can`t resist it? And then you find those connections you really don`t WANT to find, not in that particular case?
I feel like I am about having a tantrum like a child, stomping my feet, yelling: "NO NO NO". IP: Logged |
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posted January 09, 2009 11:48 AM
PA,to have Galahad on NN is so great. After all he was the White Knight, the purest and most innocent of all knights. And because of this he achieved, what his father Lancelot could not; finding the holy grail. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 09, 2009 11:59 AM
What degree did IQ say was the degree of twinsouls please DD? I missed that one  IP: Logged |
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posted January 09, 2009 12:40 PM
Lara,well, he didn`t literally said "Twinsouldegree", but when he heard that a couple`s NN was on 23° - 24° Virgo, he concluded they were twinsouls. The sabian is: MARY AND HER LITTLE LAMB This relates to Mary and Jesus (you know, the "lamb"), who were twinsouls, and thus IQ concluded that this degree might pop up in twinsoul composites. I hope I didn`t say anything wrong here. Now in that mentioned case I wouldn`t say we are necessarily twinsouls, because it`s "only" Pluto and Lancelot. Maybe the conclusion was only in regard to the TRUE NODE.
But in any case, if that degree pops up, it seems significant to me. Interestingly it very rarely pops up in my composites. That particular comparision regarding Tristan and Isolde is pretty interesting, as it seems to be a strong theme: natals: My TRISTAN on 3.7 Capricorn squares ISOLDE on 3.2 Aries My DRACO TRISTAN on 23.5 Aries opposes DNA on 20.3 Libra. His TRISTAN on 1.6 Leo quinkunx ISOLDA on 2.2 Capricorn. DRACO ISOLDA on 16.2 Leo conjuncts his TRUE NODE on 16.0 Leo and DNA on 14.8 Leo. SYNASTRY:
His ISOLDA on 2.2 Capricorn conjuncts my TRISTAN on 3.7 Capricorn. My ISOLDA on 3.2 Aries trines his TRISTAN on 1.6 Leo. COMPOSITE:
TRISTAN on 17.7 Libra trines ISOLDA on 17.7 Aquarius. There are even aspects from the composite to both natals (only conjunctions / oppositions):
Composite TRISTAN: conjuncts my DNA on 20.3 Libra and opposes his SUN on 16.8 Aries Composite ISOLDA: conjuncts his SN on 16.0 Aquarius, opposes his DNA on 14.8 Leo and conjuncts my MOON on 17.1 Aquarius This looks like a pattern, doesn`t it? Well, maybe we experienced an unhappy love affair in another lifetime.
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posted January 11, 2009 03:21 PM
I was pondering something.I think if we try to find out if there has been a love relationship between tweo people in the Arthurian time, then we wouldn`t need to look so much at asteroids like Excalibur or Knight. Instead I think we should focus for a relationship on: Camelot Arthur Morgan Guinevere Lancelot Tristan Isolde aspecting Sun, Moon, ASC, DNA, Karma, True Node (and since this is about romance VEnus, Mars and Eros) and between the asteroids themselves. If we were looking to find if one was a Knight or something of that sort, we could look at:
Camelot Arthur Galahad Lancelot Parsifal Gawain Excalibur Knight Whiteknight in aspect to Sun, Moon, ASC, DNA, Karma and True Node. If we were looking for a connection to the more spiritual aspect, we could look at:
Camelot (maybe) Stonehenge Vesta (the archetype of the priestess) Merlin Morgan (she was a sorceress after all) I would have loved to find Avalon, but there is no asteroid Avalon, but there is a belief, that the cult around Avalon may actually have their roots in Atlantis, so we could also look at Atlantis The cult in Avalon worshipped the triple goddess and the nature-god. I don`t know much about the male god, but I found as name for the great triple goddess: Brighid There is an asteroid: Brigitta (450) I didn`t found an asteroid "White well" (the entrance to the Other-world), but I found "Wells", and the cathedral of Wells is a sacred place near Glastonbury So, for those - like me - who feel a strong resonation with Avalon and this cult, maybe we should look at:
Stonehenge Vesta Merlin Morgan Atlantis Brigitta (450) Wells (1721) What do you think? Any other suggestions? EDIT:
The triple goddess (of course a Moon-goddess) was also known in Roman / Greek mythology; here they applied Maiden: Artemis (105) Mother: Selene (580) Crone: Hekate (100) Let me know, what you find! 
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posted January 11, 2009 04:00 PM
In my case there is:Atlantis conjunct ASC, Neptune and NN Atlantis exactly sextile Wells and exactly square Hekate Stonehenge exactly conjuncts Vesta and squares Brigitta Brigitta is on 29.5 Virgo, so pretty close to the Aries (or rather LIbra-point) and opposes Artemis Hekate exactly trines Venus and squares Atlantis, ASC and True Node Wells exactly sextiles ASC and Atlantis and trines Pluto and exactly quinkunx Hekate Merlin conjuncts Sun and exactly quinkunx Selene Morgan conjuncts Neptune and True Node, squares Jupiter (and opposes Kaali exactly). So the most significant connections would be:
Atlantis conjunct True Node Atlantis conjunct ASC Stonehenge conjunct Vesta Brigitta opposes Artemis Hekate trines Venus Merlin conjuncts Sun Morgan conjuncts True Node And in the Draco`s.
Draco Atlantis conjuncts Artemis and opposes Brigitta Draco Stonehenge conjuncts Chiron and opposes DNA Draco Brigitta conjunct Antivertex and opposes Saturn and Eros Draco Artemis conjuncts Saturn Draco Hekate conjunct Sun and Merlin Draco Morgan conjunct IC Draco WElls conjunct Selene Atlantis opposes Draco Moon Stonehenge / Vesta opposite Draco Jupiter Brigitta opposes DR True Node and DR Atlantis Brigitta conjuncts Dr DC Artemis conjuncts DR True Node, ASC, Mars and Atlantis Wells conjunct Draco DNA So, the most significant would be:
Draco Atlantis conjuncts Artemis and opposes Brigitta Draco Stonehenge / Vesta opposes DNA (Draco Artemis conjunct Saturn) Draco Hekate conjunct Sun and Merlin Draco WElls conjunct Selene Atlantis opposes Draco Moon Brigitta conjuncts DR DSC and opposes DR TRue Node and DR Atlantis Artemis conjuncts DR TRue NOde, DR ASC and DR ATlantis Wells conjunct Dr DNA
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 11, 2009 04:26 PM
ok so we havehis camelot trine my sun and launcelot his arthur conjunct my karma/arthur, trine my guinivere his merlin conjunct my merlin exact and square my karma and arthur exact and opposes my isolde his launcelot opposes my guinivere and trine my IC his morgan trine my merlin and tristan his tristan trine my karma, arthur his isolde square my NN exact my arthur square his sun and conjunct his karma my merlin opposes his DNA exact and conjunct his merlin exact my guinivere opposes his launcelot exact my launcelot opposes his moon or are you only looking at conjuncts?
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posted January 11, 2009 04:54 PM
I was only looking at my natal, to see how I relate to it. Looking mainly at conjunctions and oppositions, yes.IP: Logged |
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posted January 11, 2009 04:58 PM
"his arthur conjunct my karma/arthur his merlin conjunct my merlin exact his launcelot opposes my guinivere my arthur conjunct his karma my merlin opposes his DNA exact and conjunct his merlin exact my launcelot opposes his moon "Those seem to be the most significant ones. Arthur - Karma - dw seems to imply a past life in ARthurian times. Also, the Merlin-DNA aspect And Lancelot opposite Guinevere - well, it`s pretty clear what this is, isn`t it?  How about Draco`s within 2°?
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 11, 2009 05:10 PM
yes  and the launcelot/guinivere is a DW hehe IP: Logged |
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posted January 11, 2009 05:16 PM
No, according to your list it is no DW. You just typed it out twice. Happens to me all the time, too.  BTW does that oppositions fall on major planets or asteroids in your charts?
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