posted January 27, 2009 11:44 AM           

let`s see how much on target you were.

You said:

"Pluto aspect Prosperpine
Juno aspect Karma
Union aspect Saturn
Something very powerful conjunct midpoint of composite Sun and Moon."

synastry:
my Dad`s Pluto trines my mum`s Persephone (even if it isn`t Proserpine, it`s still pretty good I think)

no Juno-Karma aspect (except for a wide quinkunx with 2.2)

Composite:

Juno widely squares Karma (2.9)

Sun/Moon opposes Valentine
Sun/Moon conjuncts the Davison Saturn

Davison:

Pluto squares Proserpine

no aspects to the Davison Sun/Moon-midpoint, but curiously it falls exactly onto my tropical Venus with an orb of 0.0!

posted January 27, 2009 12:17 PM           

Hi Lara,
<<I have about 50+ bookmarked threads of IQ's with info scattered throughout and some of the info changes depending on the year of the thread>>

To be very honest, many times when I read my posts, I think "Did I write that??!"
My writing is burst-writing, inspired by that very moment. I never ever plan on what I am going to write, that keeps readings very fresh and non-boring like computer generated reports. Some of the writings look absurd to me after a few weeks, then after a few months they dont look so absurd.

Hi PA,
All the basics and advanced info will be part of the e-book, I must discuss with Randall on keeping the basics as a free download for all Knowflakes. My goal is that the free material alone should be better than the $39.95 books on astrology.

Today my study on Asteroids proved to me that it is better than anything else available on Astrology. Many would have heard of Ramalinga Raju, the master of all frauds in Indian Corporate History through "Satyam". He stashed away 2 billion$ through fraudlent accounting and bought more than 10000 acres of land across South India using 247 fictitious companies held in the name of non-existent people for whom he was forging signatures. 50,000 families are afflicted and hundreds of thousands of samll investors have lost their shirt when the Satyam stock crashed to 50 cents from 20+.
Every day we get more shocking news of his malpractices. I can challenge every traditional astrologer to find out what shows this specific tendency to swindle in this large scale that leaves the Govt of India speechless, for weeks. They wont find anything in his chart. Neither the vedics nor the tropical nor the Uranians.
If I show his chart to them in a mix of 10 charts, they may even praise the man generously. It is true, there were so many nice placements of the planets.
Only the Asteroids revealed the truth.

He has Asteroid MIDAS retrograde conjuncting ALGOL absolutely precisely opposed to Asteroid SWINDLE in Scorpio.
Precise. Precise. Precise.

My book will strive honestly to be the most useful one ever in modern astrological applications for exposing the specific truths for attaining self actualization.

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posted January 27, 2009 02:16 PM           

"I am not yet psychic"
I wouldn`t be so sure about that. I think your intution is extremely strong.

"ut we are getting some very strong clues to end this Venus-Pluto synastry misunderstanding and seeing the truth of Pluto-Persephone/Proserpine instead."
Yes, and it makes sense, too.
There has never been a romantic bond between Venus and Pluto in mythology, on which our interpretations of astrological aspects are largely based.
Instead there has been one between Pluto and Persephone / Proserpina.

For me it definitely is true.

I also looked at my aspects between mythological figures, I share with that singer, and it seems to confirm that yet again, that this couple is important for me, at least.

We have:

in synastry:

his Sun exactly sextile my Moon
my Pluto exactly trine his Proserpine
my Pluto exacty opposes his Persephone
his Adonis trine my Inannen

in midpoint composite:

Eros opposite Psyche
Isis conjunct Osiris
Sun/Moon-midpoint widely conjunct Hera (3.1)

in Davison:

Jupiter conjunct Hera
Eros conjunct Psyche

Those links between Pluto and Proserpine / Persephone look intriguing to me, and might explain to a certain degree why I have admired him for so long.

"To be very honest, many times when I read my posts, I think "Did I write that??!""
Ah, I know that feeling, can relate well to it, as it has happened so often to me.
Sometimes when some of my old threads are being bumped and I reread them, I almost feel embarrassed. Sometimes, though, I am almost impressed with the train of thought. But that happens if you write instinctively. I could never plan it. If I did, it would be no good.

"He has Asteroid MIDAS retrograde conjuncting ALGOL absolutely precisely opposed to Asteroid SWINDLE in Scorpio.
Precise. Precise. Precise."
That is just so astounding, how precise the asteroids describe what really happens.

I looked up Inannen in my chart, and it is exactly conjunct Kaali (both are retrograde though) and both are conjunct SN and trine Pluto and Aphrodite.
Why am I even still surprised? lol

"My book will strive honestly to be the most useful one ever in modern astrological applications for exposing the specific truths for attaining self actualization."
I can`t wait for it. When will you publish it?

posted January 27, 2009 02:47 PM         

SYNASTRY
his juno sq my jupiter
his prosperpine trine my pluto
his karma trine my juno
his osiris trine my isis exact
his eros trine my psyche
his psyche trine my eros
his zeus quincunx my hera
his zeus trine my juno
his innanen trine my adonis

COMPOSITE
eros trine psyche exact
venus conjunct mars
jupiter sextile juno
zeus sextile hera (5)
sun/moon midpoint exact conjunct his sun

posted January 27, 2009 03:09 PM         

eros/psyche DW but at 4/5 degrees and double whammy l figured they were potent

posted January 27, 2009 03:53 PM           

But that is just my very personal opinion.

However, you do have the exact Eros-Psyche-trine in the Composite, right?
I think you may feel that much more than the wide Eros-Psyche-aspects in the synastry.

But yes, I agree, it looks hot.

posted January 27, 2009 04:09 PM         

I personally think 4/5 is fine for a DW especially as it's also in the composite or davison too which is exact. The DW makes it a circle of continual energy so l don't have a problem with it.

posted January 27, 2009 04:37 PM         

How important is the asteroid Union? (I have it conjunct Juno) It exactly conjuncts the venus of the guy

Not a double whammy... though he does have proserpine conjuncting my venus/pluto

Does any of that mean something significant?

tia

posted January 27, 2009 05:03 PM           

I think if we allow too wide orbs, everything will be in aspect with everything, and we can read the nicest things into it.
Espeically if we are dealing with asteroids, it can get out of hand.

But you`re definitely on the safe side with your exact aspect in the composite.

However, let`s just agree to disagree on the matter of orbs.

Evander,

According to IQ Union is very important in relationships. Union-Venus could hint at a love relationship, or at least a connection that is founded on admiration, sympathy and everything Venus stands for.

posted January 27, 2009 09:27 PM         

His Jupiter square my Zeus
His Hera trine my Zeus (and conjunct my Asc)
His Juno quincunx my Zeus
His Zeus quincunx my Hera
His Pluto sextile my Persephone
My Pluto quintile his Persephone
His Psyche quincunx my Cupido
His Isis conjunct my Osiris
His Siva semi-sextile my Parvati

Other aspects I found interesting:

My Siva trines his Mars
His Kaali trines my Mars

His Innanen trines my Jupiter
My Adonis trines his Mars
My Adonis conjuncts both our NN's

We have an exact grand trine with both our North Nodes conjunct with my Adonis in Scorpio, trining my Siva in Pisces and his Mars in Cancer.

The Composite:

Siva conjunct Parvati
Jupiter trine Juno
Adonis sextile Innanen
Venus quintile Mars
Isis semi-sextile Osiris
Eros quincunx Cupido

Davison ~ same as composite, plus:

Eros quintile Psyche
Jujo quincunx Zeus
Siva quintile Kaali

posted January 28, 2009 05:27 AM         

My Persephone quincunx his Mars
His Persephone trine my Mars

My Persephone sextile his Karma
His Persephone quintile my Karma

His Proserpina trine my Neptune
My Proserpina quincunx his Neptune and
my Persephone conjunct his Neptune

My Proserpina is conjunct his South Node/Vesta and quintile his Valentine

My Persephone is quincunx his Vesta and semi-sextile his North Node and

His Persephone is square my Valentine

Also, I found it interesting that my Natal Proserpina conjuncts his Draco Persephone.

Also, in his natal chart he has Persephone exactly conjunct his Ascendant with only 9 minutes of arc *and* he has Proserpina exactly conjunct his IC with only 14 minutes of arc!!!

posted January 28, 2009 06:01 AM         

My Guinevere oppose his Moon
My Lancelot trine his Moon (although widely)
My Merlin trine his Moon
My Camelot square his Moon

My Lancelot square his Sun
My Camelot trine his Sun
His Camelot trine my Amor
His Camelot opposite my Sun and Venus

My Merlin conjunct his Arthur and his SN
His Merlin opposite my Pluto and Karma

My Arthur sextile his Amor
His Arthur conjunct my Amor

His Arthur conjunct my Moon
My Arthur square his Moon

My Camelot conjunct his Ascendant
His Excalibur trine my Ascendant

My Guinevere sextile his Lancelot
His Lancelot sextile my Valentine
His Camelot quintile my Valentine

His Guinevere trine my NN
My Lancelot quintile his NN

There are still more I think, but I guess that's enough. Those are all pretty close orbs too. Hm.

posted January 28, 2009 08:07 AM           

hm, Siva conjunct Parvati and Isis conjunct Osiris could relate to a Tantric or Egyptian past lifeline I guess (better ask IQ about it, too, though).

But I know what you mean about the UK, I also have a very very strong feeling I have had a past life there.

Synastry seems to be strong relating to Arthurian asteroids, but have a look at your natals, too. Maybe you will find an Arthurian asteroid conjunct Sun, Moon, NN, Karma, DNA or ASC or Saturn.

posted February 01, 2009 06:56 PM         

I just checked a few of the Arthurian asteroids in my natal and I have Merlin in the the 12th conjunct my Moon/South Node which, along with POF, Psyche and my name asteroid in my 3rd, form a yod with the apex point being Camelot Rx in the 7th. Camelot opposes Arthur in the 1st.

And also Guinivere is conjunct Valentine, exactly.

posted February 01, 2009 10:26 PM           

Male:
Hong Kong, CHINA
Oct 20 1970
6:15:00 AM AWST

Composite aspects:
Sun is Trine Moon Orb 1` 05'
Sun is Sextile Jupiter Orb 2` 13'
Sun is Conjunct Pluto Orb 6` 25'
Moon is Opposite Jupiter Orb 1` 07'
Moon is Square N. Node Orb 2` 12'
Mercury is Conjunct Venus Orb 3` 16'
Mercury is Trine Saturn Orb 2` 37'
Mercury is Sextile Neptune Orb 0` 49'
Mercury is Conjunct Pluto Orb 2` 30'
Venus is Conjunct Pluto Orb 5` 47'
Mars is Sextile Uranus Orb 2` 11'
Mars is Trine Ascendant Orb 0` 20'
Mars is Trine Chiron Orb 2` 10'
Jupiter is Square N. Node Orb 3` 20'
Saturn is Opposite Neptune Orb 1` 48'
Saturn is Trine Pluto Orb 0` 07'
Uranus is Sextile Ascendant Orb 2` 31'
Uranus is Opposite Chiron Orb 0` 01'
Neptune is Sextile Pluto Orb 1` 41'
Chiron is Trine Ascendant Orb 2` 30'

Composite Houses:
2H - sun, Mer, Plu
3H - Ven, Ura
4H - Jup, Nep
5H - Mars
10H - Moon, Sat

I dont have the asteroids.