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Topic: Semi-Sextiles and Quincunxes Can Be Stronger Than Conjunctions!?
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Heart--Shaped Cross unregistered
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posted January 30, 2009 03:56 AM
According to Stephen Arroyo, its been known to happen.So dont discount those "minor" aspects, people.  IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 30, 2009 04:04 AM
I AGREE!My own chart is full of semi-sextiles and quincunxes and l always have loads of them in relationships  IP: Logged |
Peri Moderator Posts: 147 From: Ukraine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 30, 2009 04:08 AM
Quincunxes are very strong but less eye-catching than conjunctions, I agree, not sure about semisextilesIP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 30, 2009 04:09 AM
well the semi-sextile is the closest aspect to the conjunct! IP: Logged |
Iqhunk unregistered
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posted January 30, 2009 04:55 AM
In Natal Charts, I have found noviles, quintiles and septiles to be moderately effective. Semi-Sextile very mildly effective. However Sextile is very powerful and so is the quincunx, yes, perhaps almost like a conjunction. Quincunxes are very powerful in synastry too.------------------ http://www.tamsoft.co.in/articles.html http://www.tamsoft.co.in/readings.html http://www.tamsoft.co.in/samplereading.html IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 30, 2009 05:01 AM
quote: Quincunxes are very powerful in synastry too.
Did ya hear that DD? Did ya??!!!!  IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 247 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 30, 2009 05:22 AM
Considering a quincunx is also part of a Yod, I can't imagine how they wouldn't have some impact - pretty noticeable. .. though I look at them as the 'Huh?!' aspect LOL, since that's how I feel when I see them in my chart for now  IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted January 30, 2009 08:02 AM
I heard it. But just because IQ sais something, it doesn`t mean I blindly buy it.  IQ, if you`re reading it, this is not meant as an attack. You know I like the way your mind works and you have been a great inspiration to me, but even with your brilliance I canīt accept anything without researching it myself. This way I can appreciate the amazing insights you have in astrology even MORE.
So Lara or whoever is reading this, I really do NOT like to follow someone blindly, but I like to follow with my eyes wide open.
My personal take on this is: 1. Don`t forget about the progressions, when semisextiles and quinkunxes become conjunctions and oppositions (Paul Westran did a great research on this). 2. Yes, I do feel quinkunxes are important. I will have to try out noviles.
IQ, what about quindeciles? IP: Logged |
lovegoblin Knowflake Posts: 3 From: neverland Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 30, 2009 08:32 AM
DD:Quindeciles are an obsessive aspect. There is a thread around here somewhere about quindeciles. I thought u might have actually participated in the thread, but i may be incorrect. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 163 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 30, 2009 08:38 AM
I think quincunx can be stronger than conjunction if it has a tighter orbfor instance I have Sun quincunx Saturn with 12 minutes of arc. I have Moon conjunct Mars with 7'17 orb I do feel the Sun quincunx Saturn more than the Moon conjunct Mars. I really believe that it depends on the orb of an aspect. A tight orbed aspect minor can be stronger than a wide orbed major aspect. I see this with the sesquiquadrate,semisquare especially 2 planets that are in semisextile with a 3rd planet quindecile the other two will form a 24th harmonic isosceles triangle. I call it a skinny yod....hahahaha Raymond
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amowls Knowflake Posts: 4 From: Falls Church, VA, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 30, 2009 09:16 AM
Wait so in synastry would a Quincux act out like a conjunction? Or an opposition? IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted January 30, 2009 09:42 AM
Not in my book, even though both, conjunction and quinkunx, could be a binding factor, but for different reasons. A conjunctions binds because you have something in common, a quinkunx may bind because of the fascination of being different, yet being able to learn from each other.IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 163 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 30, 2009 09:51 AM
also some quincunxes can work well because of shared traditional rulersAries and Scorpio are quincunx signs,and they share Mars as traditional ruler. Taurus and Libra are quincunx signs,and they share Venus as traditional ruler Actually Stephen Arroyo uses co-rulerships for Scorpio,Aquarius,and Pisces. I do too. I have Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd quincunx Saturn in 5'08 Gemini R in 9th. A planet in 4 to 6 degree Aries in my 7th will form a yod with my Sun quincunx Saturn. A planet in 3'15 to 5'15 Aries would actually square my Sun/Moon midpoint in 4'15 Capricorn. Transiting Uranus will be in those degrees in 2012,and so will form a yod transit with my Sun quincunx Saturn. That would seem a lot of big changes,adjustments during that time. On my Solar Return on October 28, 2012, Uranus will be in 5'27 Aries R. Raymond
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 420 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 30, 2009 11:08 AM
i have 5 natal quincunx's under 2 degrees including a yod, and l agree with Glaucus that it can be stronger than the conjunction, which l seem to have as very close aspects in synastry. It's strong and very present. Hi Glaucus 
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augentier unregistered
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posted January 30, 2009 11:37 AM
Verrrrry interesting..I did not know about the quincunx..I wish astro.com showed it.So I have moon quincunx moon with someone in 1 deg. Taurus-Sagittarius. Hmmm? ------------------ Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon Mercury:: Sagittarius Venus::Scorpio Mars::Pisces IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 229 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 30, 2009 12:33 PM
So you guys read quincunxes as conjunctions? I think my Saturn is quincunx my Sun. Maybe it's my ascendant. I'll have to check.IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted January 30, 2009 12:46 PM
I am not. A quinkunx is not a conjunction, even though the intensity can be similiar.I also agree with Glaucus and Lara. The tightest aspects will be the dominant ones. I have an exact Moon-Saturn-quinkunx, and I do feel the intensity of it very strongly. But it`s not a conjunction. It connects two different realms, instead of emphasising one area of life. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 163 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 30, 2009 12:47 PM
I don't read quincunxes as conjunctions. I don't think anybody said that quincunxes are like conjunctions. the post was about that quincunxes and semisextiles can be stronger than conjunctions. I believe that can be the case if the quincunxes and semisextiles have a small orb compared to conjunctions that have a large orb. Raymond
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darkdreamer unregistered
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posted January 30, 2009 12:49 PM
I agree.  IP: Logged |