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FistOfLegend unregistered	posted February 01, 2009 02:13 AM I recently had someone come up to me with his chart asking, "Why do I attract stalkers?" I had him explain the situation to me further, and he claimed he couldn't even sit in a classroom without there being some kind of disruption. Eventually he had to be home schooled because he felt overwhelmed by the gross attention he received. When girls liked him, they seemed to worship him, but when he rejected them (quietly), those same girls reacted in a very manipulative and criticizing manner. That's when the stalking ensued. Before even looking at his chart, I assumed, "He probably has a lot of Pluto, maybe Venus or Moon square Pluto." But no, common conception was wrong. When I finally looked at his chart, I saw Venus opposite Saturn and Neptune. The two main culprits. I've heard a lot of theories on Neptune and stalking. Do you think it's an important factor? It makes a lot of sense to me. Someone with Venus opposite Neptune may attract someone who's very unstable, and that's exactly what a stalker is. A stalker cannot handle his emotional problems. He doesn't love the other person. He's trying to dump his troubles onto them. I also believe it has much to do with the individual himself. What aspects would you see in a stalker? Venus in hard aspect to Chiron, I've seen. Love is a painful thing, and when someone rejects them, it's extremely hard to take. IP: Logged
leapinglemur14 Knowflake Posts: 438 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 01, 2009 02:28 AM uh oh my venus opposes my neptune by one degree.... i'm so screwed aren't i? and would a venus chiron conjunctions be a hard aspect? im thinking most likely... IP: Logged
missneptune unregistered	posted February 01, 2009 03:12 AM Hey stalking can be fun! IP: Logged
Arnicka unregistered	posted February 01, 2009 06:42 AM both moon and venus sq pluto. am quite used to strange men following me around...they just drop what they're doing and follow me where i go with the most expressionless faces i've ever seen, and when you turn around and look em straight in the eye, they're unfazed..what is that? i'm interested to know what aspects would be involved in their charts too. IP: Logged
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011	posted February 01, 2009 07:18 AM venus conjunct chiron is a hard aspect yes. It's painful love or something like that l think l read? IP: Logged
alvarella777 unregistered	posted February 01, 2009 07:23 AM Neptune might be the right clue, I assume. I (a woman) have my Venus (9th) squaring my Neptune and ASC (Neptune in 1st, cj. ASC) - and I experienced some strange things with men, just currently the first "stalking" experience.... weird! One man who obviously is kind of "stalking" me /spying me out has his natal Sun-Mercury-conjunct (lying on the cusp of his 12th house) squaring his Neptune in 3rd... He won't talk to me, bring it out in the open, but somehow is always "there" and just recently contacted me again, in a rather weird/aggressive way. I signalled to him: "Leave me alone." And in our composite we have Moon squaring Neptune. IP: Logged
Nyah Knowflake Posts: 221 From: Europe Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 01, 2009 08:39 AM I have a few stalker-like-experiences, and I still actually have one after me that don't seem to get the message. I have the following aspects: Moon Conjunction Venus Moon Trine Saturn Moon Square Pluto Moon Quincunx Ascendant Venus Square Pluto Venus Quincunx Ascendant Neptune Sextile Pluto Neptune Opposition Ascendant Pluto Trine Ascendant ------------------ Ascendant: Gemini Sun: Pisces Moon: Capricorn Mercury: Pisces Venus: Capricorn Mars: Aquarius IP: Logged
Tigerlily Knowflake Posts: 59 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 01, 2009 09:39 AM I've had my share of stalkers...and unfortunately, sexual predators and molesters. My astrological placements that could be a factor: My Cancer Sun squares my Aries Chiron and Eris (my Chiron and Eris are conjunct). *************************** My Aquarius ASC squares my Taurus Saturn and my Scorpio Proserpina. ************************* I have an out of sign Moon/Neptune and Moon/MC square (widely, by 6 degrees) ************************* My Leo Venus conjuncts: Lilith trinity (Mean BM Lilith, True BM Lilith and Dark Moon Lilith/Lunar Apogee) Pandora DNA Groom Bacchus Draconic Mars Draconic Iris Draconic Hypnos Draconic Spirit Draconic asteroid Lilith ************************* My Leo Venus conjuncts the following midpoints: Saturn/MC Saturn/Neptune Saturn/Orpheus Sun/Uranus N Node/ASC Sun/Pluto ************************* My Leo Venus squares: Taurus Saturn Taurus IC Taurus Psyche Taurus Pan Scorpio Neptune and MC (my Neptune is conjunct my MC - it's the tightest aspect in my chart) Scorpio Orpheus ************************* I also have a rather potent 8th House stellium: Jupiter Uranus Pluto Quaoar Hecate Isis Osiris Persephone (with Isis conjuncting Persephone) Aphrodite Union plus the following midpoints: Sun/Valentine Moon/Jupiter Moon/MC Moon/Neptune Moon/Orpheus Venus/MC Venus/Neptune Venus/Orpheus Mars/MC Mars/Neptune Mars/Orpheus Jupiter/Pluto ASC/Saturn Isis/Osiris Draconic ASC/Sun Draconic Psyche/Cupido ************************* Another potential factor: My Gemini Nessus squares** my Virgo Pluto and my Virgo Draconic Venus. IP: Logged
Astra Knowflake Posts: 559 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 01, 2009 01:52 PM I've been stalked. My aspects seem to bring about very odd and dangerous men: Venus trine mars Venus opposite pluto Mars trine pluto moon square pluto and venus (T-square...ugh) Neptune trine venus Mars opposition neptune Sun opposition Uranus IP: Logged
Diandra23 unregistered	posted February 01, 2009 03:04 PM i would look at asteroid Nessus i think. IP: Logged
emma_duncan Knowflake Posts: 128 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 01, 2009 03:40 PM i hv venus sq neptune.... it might be this aspect that makes me a crap magnet there r two or three ppl who i will never be able to 4get due to their stalking expertise i also hv venus semisquare saturn IP: Logged
missneptune unregistered	posted February 01, 2009 04:29 PM What would make you prone to being the stalker instead of the one being stalked? IP: Logged
scrappydog Knowflake Posts: 1061 From: Texas Registered: May 2009	posted February 02, 2009 11:42 AM Ha Ha. I've got venus square neptune too an I am definately a crap magnet! Plus venus is the strongest planet in my chart and makes a grand trine with moon and chiron conj asc. Why do I always end up with x cons or recovering (or secretly not so recovering) drug addicts?? I swear this aspect describes like 75% of my chart, it's my lifes story. I have been stalked by several different men and was the victim of a sexual predator when I was 11. I have sun conj pluto 1 deg, moon in 8th, and venus parallel pluto IP: Logged
emma_duncan Knowflake Posts: 128 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 02, 2009 01:52 PM so far it seems venus-nepune (hard aspect) are the winner crap magnet aspects.... IP: Logged
WaterDog unregistered	posted February 02, 2009 03:37 PM It's a wonder that other people attract stalkers! I attract people who think the definition of love is being as far away from me as long as possible! I need to find me some neptune, I guess. IP: Logged
emma_duncan Knowflake Posts: 128 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 02, 2009 05:12 PM do you have hard aspects of neptune with Mars? IP: Logged
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 3671 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009	posted February 02, 2009 05:54 PM I think it's damn near impossible to isolate a single aspect and say it's the culprit. I don't have Venus/Neptune in hard aspect but I've had some stalkers, most of them being men with a lot of Aries and Leo in their chart. And also some Moon boys. IP: Logged
missneptune unregistered	posted February 02, 2009 07:24 PM Its probably easier to figure out who is likely to be a stalker than the stalked. Certain transits probably factor in the possibility of being stalked. IP: Logged
scrappydog Knowflake Posts: 1061 From: Texas Registered: May 2009	posted February 02, 2009 07:33 PM Ya transiting pluto square or oppose venus. IP: Logged
Geocosmic Valentine Newflake Posts: 0 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 02, 2009 07:37 PM I'd like to repeat Emma_Duncan's question. Does he have any Mars-Neptune aspect, whether it's hard or soft? Does he have Mars in Pisces? Does he have Neptune in aspect to any planet in Aries? IP: Logged
FistOfLegend unregistered	posted February 02, 2009 10:21 PM When you say transiting Venus in hard aspect to Pluto, do you include Solar Return as well? IP: Logged
alvarella777 unregistered	posted February 03, 2009 02:23 AM SCRAPPYDOG: I also have Venus squaring my Neptune (my Neptune in my 1st) - AND Pluto as the ruler of my chart - just like you! (Pluto cj. MC, Scorpio ASC and a stellium, including Sun, in the 8th). But, to tell you the truth: I sort of CRAVE some intensity from my partners. Actually, I don't mind a little light "stalking" ... I expect my partners to do that in a discreet way, haha. NOT in an annoying/scary way, of course. But after all ... all that Scorpionic tone to my chart doesn't mind some mysterious intensity and some brooding feelings, to be honest. I find that ... flattering, in a way. Must say: It's a thin line, though. *edit: Somehow ... I tend to feel "cared for" in a way, if someone is trying to "control" me. But but but: It is REALLY a thin line ....* IP: Logged
Dulce Luna Newflake Posts: 7 From: The Asylum, NC Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 03, 2009 02:55 AM I think you're onto something with the neptune factor, though its one indicator out of many (like pluto, Lilith, and even amor aspects). People with this venus in aspect to neptune might have some worship-inducing appeal AND they may confuse other people of the opposite sex. To no fault of the venus/neptune person, certain members of the opposite sex may somehow ALWAYS seem to believe that they reciprocate this attraction when they really don't and we're just being nice. Let me note that this often happens to my bffl who has a venus/pluto conjunction IN Scorpio and also me to a lesser degree this has happened to me even though I have only soft pluto and neptune aspects. I did some more research and found that I had the asteroid amor conjunct my ASC. In addition to what IQ had told me about this, I decided to do some more research and found that people this asteroid is known for the platonic love that is confused for 'other kinds of love'. In other words, the amor person might do something for someone else and the other person assumes Amor is in love with them and they become smitten with Amor even though it wasn't even like that for Amor. Sheesh! IP: Logged
Little Miss Libra unregistered	posted February 04, 2009 01:06 AM Nyah ~ Wow!! I have five of those exact same placements! I've never really had any experience with stalkers that i know of. but i do notice that guys interpret my friendliness as interest in them even if i don't mean it to come off that way...it's frustrating at times. Geocosmic ~ What is significant about having neptune in aspect to a planet in Aries? just curious ;D IP: Logged
Debby4 Knowflake Posts: 715 From: TX,USA Registered: Apr 2012	posted December 01, 2012 03:11 PM I have some of these placements. O.o I do feel like I attract "creeps" into my life. venus quincunx pluto Psyche in 7th house (what is psyche? Never heard of it.) Cupid in 12th house Lilith and Vertex in 8th house Venus semi-square mars pholus( in 10th house) sextile Asc neptune conj. uranus neptune sextile saturn neptune square venus neptune sextile moon amor square sun and saturn pholus trine saturn/neptune opp. saturn pluto sextile uranus pluto trine saturn chiron semi-square pluto chiron trine uranus amor in 1st house nessu in 1st hose Not sure... Meh. IP: Logged

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