posted January 23, 2010 09:44 AM            

Hello IQ,

in the same synastry as in my last post I discovered a "really" dense pattern between tropical and heliocentric.

her natal chart:

Saturn: 16.5 Cancer r
Juno: 16.5 Pisces

helio Saturn: 14.4 Cancer
helio Valentine: 18.5 Scorpio

his natal chart:

Saturn: 20.5 Scorpio r
Juno: 17.5 Scorpio r

helio Saturn: 16.1 Scorpio
helio Valentine: 17.5 Capricorn

her natal aspects:
Saturn trine Juno: 0.0
(helio Saturn trine helio Valentine: 4.1)
helio Saturn trine Juno: 2.1
helio Valentine trine Saturn : 2.0
helio Valentine trine Juno 2.0

his natal aspects:
Saturn conjunct Juno 3.0
helio Saturn sextile helio Valentine: 1.4
helio Saturn conjunct Juno 1.4
helio Valentine sextile Saturn 3.0
helio Valentine sextile Juno 0.0

synastry:

(his Saturn widely trine her Saturn 4.0)
(his Saturn widely trine her Juno 4.0)
his Juno trine her Saturn 1.0
his Juno trine her Juno 1.0

his Saturn conjunct her helio Valentine 2.0
(his Juno trine her helio Saturn 3.1)
his Juno conjunct her helio Valentine 1.0

his helio Saturn trine her Saturn 0.4
his helio Saturn trine her juno 0.4
his helio Saturn trine her helio Saturn 1.3
his helio Saturn conjunct her helio Valentine 2.4

his helio Valentine opposite her Saturn 1.0
his helio Valentine sextile her Juno 1.0
his helio Valentine opposite her helio Saturn 3.1
his helio Valentine sextile her helio Valentine 1.0

of course that means they also share midpoint configurations:

her Saturn / Juno opposite his Juno (1.0)
her Saturn / Juno opposite hs helio Saturn (0.4)

her helio Saturn / Juno opposite his helio Saturn (0.2)

her Juno / helio Valentine conjunct his helio Valentine (0.0)

his Saturn / Juno conjunct her helio Valentine (0.3)

his Saturn / helio Saturn conjunct her helio Valentine (0.2)

his Juno / Helio Valentine square her Juno (1.0)

his helio Saturn / helio Valentine square her Juno (0.0)

I thought the symmetry was simply breathtaking.

I mean it triggers the same exact planets / asteroids; they share the same natal aspects, the same planets / asteroids in the different dimensions plus they are all in synastric aspect.

So it means there is a really dense pattern of Saturn, Juno and Valentine, all linked by conjunction, opposition, trine and sextile.

The pivotal points seem to be these aspects:
his Saturn conjunct her helio Valentine
his helio Saturn conjunct her helio Valentine
his helio Valentine opposite her Saturn
his helio Valentine opposite her helio Saturn
his Juno conjunct her helio Valentine

posted January 23, 2010 01:14 PM            

I'm interested in Psyche conjunct ASC (0 deg, Scorpio). Would it have similar effect as Moon conjunct ASC?

And also, in Venus conjunct Valentine-would it be felt by both parts or is it more significant for the Valentine person?

posted January 26, 2010 08:07 PM              

Hi IQ

Remember when i asked about my SR for when i will have my Saturn return? by transits,showed a probable birth of a "lucky" child,a nurturing increased love in the relationship also,and a sudden risen in profession.

i was looking at transits again and found out a rare thing: A DW of a transit in my chart.

for april 2012,by the time of my SAT RETURN iŽll be having a kiron-mora conjuntion.:

Tr Kiron 8 PISC cj my n.MORA 8 PISC 5th
Tr MORA 3 GEM cj my n.Kiron 2 GEM
TR KIRON WILL BE OPOSE MY Sun too..

isnt this odd? and on our Composite with transits it appears it too:Tr Mora cj C.Kiron/Victoria.

does this mean a probable wounding/healing effect in the place where we or i would be living?maybe shows the birth itself?cause there the C.CERES 5th WILL be cj by Tr Pluto 9CAP.

isnt kiron conected with :

Teacher, Guru, Mentor, Fosterparent, Turning Point, Now, Catalyst, Bridge, Link, Steppingstone, Passageway, Common Ground, Union of Opposites, Holistic, Personal Imperative, Pulling the Plug, Balance, Mediator, The Passage from Dependence to Independence, Turning the Corner, Therapy, a Koan [in Zen Buddhism], A Wound that will not Heal, a way to break free of a matrix, Synergism, Essence.

posted January 28, 2010 09:19 AM              

HI IQ

Thank you - iŽll note down what happens whenever the transit appears,but the asteroid in question was MOra.not Moira

Mora is the portuguese word for place of living.

so i guess the transit you asked me to note down is about Mora,and noT MOIRA?

posted January 28, 2010 01:29 PM            

Question 4? :

What in synastry or composite would show violation? I met someone just yesterday and immediately we started sharing secrets we've never told anyone... and i feel quite violated now. Not that i was forced to, but i just feel indisposed...

posted January 28, 2010 05:21 PM            

I was reading the post on deciever aspects and I was wondering about someone who I knew was lying and found the following aspects for her.
Her swindle and lie conjunct her Mercury and Neptune in her 1st house in SAG.
she also has venus conjunct neptune in 1st in SAG. and her lilith is conjunct her venus and neptune as well. they are also sextile her pluto ruler of her first in her 10th house.

I read somewhere that Lilith conjunct venus makes someone ugly, not so much on the outside but within. Maybe because she lies to herself (first house) Mercury is the ruler of her seventh house (partnerships) and Neptune is the ruler of her 4th house( family, roots) opp her saturn in her seventh house. saturn is the ruler of her 3rd house (communications).

I was wondering what you thought about the aspects? I try but not as good at this as you are.

posted January 28, 2010 05:32 PM            

has she been born in december 1972?

posted January 29, 2010 01:08 AM            

Atlantis quincunx Aura and sesi-square the Moon.

How would you interpret these two aspects? Both < 1 degree orb

Quetzacoalt, Celestia, Lucifer, Inca and the Sun are all conjunct in Aries in the 9th (the house of long-distance travel)

Their Sabians are very interesting!

Quetzalcoalt 9-10 deg Aries
"A Teacher Gives New Symbolic Forms To Traditional Images"

Celestia and Lucifer 10-11 deg Aries
"The Ruler Of A Nation"

Inca 11-12 deg Aries
"A Triangularly Shaped Flight Of Wild Geese"

I remember, in a thread about Atlantis, you said, folks who have Rudra trine/sextile Atlantis may have survived the destruction of Atlantis. As you know I have the sextile aspect in my chart. And the Sabian of Atlantis makes me think that maybe after the Atlantis sinking, I went to South America (to west). The 9th house stellium backs this telling me I came to there from a far away place.

The Sabian of Atlantis:

Atlantis 19-20 deg Virgo
"A Caravan Of Cars Headed To The West Coast"

What do you think of my interpretation? And if you have extra things to add, pls do!

posted January 29, 2010 01:50 AM            

Hi IQ - I was wondering which house system do you use and why?

I've always used Placidus but lately I'm seriously considering switching to Equal.

posted January 29, 2010 04:39 AM            

been lookin at more asteroids lately since i ve been forced in bed for about 7 weeks with a saturn sickness.. sigh !

wanted to ask you

what do u think of some synastry aspects:
his Nmoon conj my Nsiva asteroid

also , about my Npluto conj his child asteroid and my child asteroid conj his Nmars.

all around 1 or 2 deg orbs.

posted January 29, 2010 11:55 PM            

Hey IQ! I just met someone who I feel really connected with and its not the same person as New Years! There is something very gentle and soothing about him, it might be that he is the first Pisces Sun I've ever been involved with, who knows? Any ways I noticed a few aspects that I wanted your advice on:

Here is a visual:

Asc. Conjunct Sun

Eros Conjunct DSC.

Eros Conjunct Moon

Mercury Cojunct Moon

Venus Conjunct NN

NN Conjunct Moon

DNA Conjunct Mars

Psyche Cojunct DNA

I've experienced my Sun being conjunct by someone elses ascendant before and it usually signifies that I get to know the person really fast, and the attraction is usually instant. And I feel the same way again, but I feel more comfortable with this person in general, I feel like I've always known him...

posted January 30, 2010 06:24 AM            

YOD

jupiter 23,17 taurus
varuna 23,17 taurus
horus 25,09 taurus
algol 26 taurus
my first name helena 26, 54 taurus
philia 27,13 taurus

quinkunx to

valentine 26,51 libra (house 4)
ixion 27,20 libra
siva 27, libra

amor 26,38 sag ( house 5)
wertex 26,27 sag

My YOD?

All the stellium in taurus give me grew hair. That's was a part in a question you get from me before.

When I change my house system to equal all the stellium in taurus change to house 10 and also valentine/siva/ixion change to house 3 from 4 that give me a better answer. The stellium agree more with the events in my life...

"Can you anonymously give to charity or pay the school fees of needy kids anonymously? All such activity will create a profound sense of peace for you"

Why did you answer me so?

This word give me bad feelings? I've give so much already to so many people and not get more sense of peace because that. This words only give people sense of bad consciense

posted January 30, 2010 11:59 AM            

Pluto/Venus/Proserpine aren't touching each other either BUT we both have Pluto in one another's 12th house. Which would explain the way i'm feeling, i suppose.

Is this going to be a constant theme in our friendship? Is there any way that i can... avoid his Pluto? lol!

posted January 30, 2010 12:53 PM            

I guess you didn't notice, I had another question.

Atlantis quincunx Aura (with Rudra they form a Yod)
Atlantis sesi-square the Moon

I know sesi-square is minor aspect, but is it effective?

posted January 30, 2010 09:52 PM            

How would the planets react in relation to each other?
would they act like a conjunction by helping each other ?
What orb would you use ?

I know this may seem like a simple question but I just found out that you can use mutual reception in synastry and was wondering how to interpret this aspect.

posted January 31, 2010 11:56 AM            

Question #2

I have noticed others discussing draco composites.
If you recall I asked about this one person and I having a venus conjunct pluto aspect in draco synastry.
Well in looking at the composite we have proserpina conjunct Pluto Is that just a confirmation of the venus/ pluto aspect in the synastry?

I don't know if I explained that right sorry, if what I am asking is confusing.

posted February 01, 2010 07:55 AM              

hi IQ

I dont know if you know but i have a twin sister.i always wondered why we are so different.

im more shy,dependant of loved ones in an emotional way and im way too fond of arts,beauty and nature.

She is more independant,more to sports,stronger and knows how to distance herself not to suffer with otherŽs pains ( she works in health as cardiologist technician).

im more into spirituality wether she is a sepktic.

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She dreams of being a Mom and having a family but till the moment she never met someone special,wether i met Jonnhy already.

i thought that usually twins have similar paths,and it is usual to see also marrying at the same time,or dating at the same time.

in our cause,that didnt happened - she has the job that she likes,and i met the love of my life.

i look at our charts and they are similar,with ascŽs also in Libra.

IQ

do you see those influences on the chart?

what i see diferent are the house.rulers:

Her 2ndHRuler is Venus,placed in 11th
Her 3rdhrULER is Pluto placed in 1st cjTyche
Her 4thHRuler is Saturn placed in 2nd(wether mine is in my 1st)
Her 8THRuler is Mars,placed in 11th
Her 9THRuler is Venus,placed in 11th

Her VERTEX is more close to her DSC,than Mine.

her ASC SABYAN IS:

LIBRA 2-3
THE DAWN OF A NEW DAY REVEALS EVERYTHING CHANGED
This pictures a sudden, new beginning. Hard to believe at first, but eventually it will dawn on you that things are different in the light of a new day. Take heart, realize that the darkness is abating, and gradually let go of what went before.
New perspectives and new realizations. Waking up with a whole new consciousness or sense of reality. Radical shifts and changes.
The Caution: Holding on to the past despite all evidence and reason to move on. Refusing to believe that things are getting better.

mine is

posted February 01, 2010 03:34 PM            

Anyway since we have had this post about "turn on`s and turn off`s", I was wondering if one can see possible sexual attraction astrologically.
If so, what would you deduce from these aspects?

his VENUS opposite her KAALI (0)
his PLUTO square her VENUS (1)
his EROS trine her EROS (0)
his CUPIDO conjunct her MARS (2)
his CUPIDO conjunct her LUST (0)
his KAALI conjunct her VENUS (2)

his MARS conjunct her VALENTINE (1)
his EROS conjunct her JUNO (3)
his CUPIDO conjunct her NN (2)
his CUPIDO conjunct her NEPTUNE (2)
his CUPIDO conjunct her ASC (0)
his ADONIS conjunct her MOIRA (0)
his Venus/Mars-mp conj. her Mars (0)
his Venus/Mars-mp conjunct her ASC (1)
his Eros/Pluto-mp conjunct her Sun (1)

her VENUS conjunct his SUN (1)
her MARS conjunct his JUNO (3)
her PLUTO trine his DESC (0)
her PLUTO square his SUN (1)
her CUPIDO trine his KARMA (0)
her LUST conjunct his ASC (1)
her ADONIS conjunct his MOON (0)
her KAALI conjunct his DESC (3)
her Venus/Mars-mp conjunct his KARMA (0)
her EROS/Psyche-mp conjunct his Psyche (3)
her Eros/Psyche-mp conjunct his Moira (2)
her Venus/Pluto-mp conjunct his Lust (1)

DRACO`S

his DR EROS trine her DR APHRODITE (0)
his DR APHRODITE trine her DR MARS (0)
his DR LUST opposite her DR APHRODITE (1)
his DR APHRODITE trine her DR LUST (2)
his DR APHRODITE trine her DR ASC (1)
his DR ADONIS conjunct her DR PLUTO (2)

his DR VENUS trine her ADONIS (1)
his DR MARS trine her APHRODITE (1)
his DR MARA trrine her KAALI (1)
his DR EROS opposite her MARS (2)
his DR CUPIDO conjunct her PSYCHE (4)
his DR LUST trine her MARS (1)
his DR APHRODITE conjunct her DESTINN (2)
his DR APHRODITE trne her VALENTINE (2)
his DR KAALI trine her EROS )0)

his MARS trine her DR ASC (2)
his EROS conjunct her DR VALENTINE (3)
his ADONIS conjunct her DR DESTINN (0)

her DR EROS opposite his APHRODITE (1)
her DR EROS conjunct his ADONIS (2)
her DR EROS conjunct his PSYCHE (0)
her DR EROS trine his UNION (2)
her DR CUPIDO conjunct his CUPIDO (2)
her DR LUST trine his MARS (2)
her DR APHRODITE trine his PLUTO (2)
her DR KAALI conjunct his PLUTO (2)

her VENUS conjunct his DR URANUS (1)
her EROS trine his DR SUN (0)
her EROS opposite his DR PSYCHE (2)
her EROS conjunct his DR MOIRA (2)
her CUPIDO conjunct his DR DESC (2)

posted February 01, 2010 04:12 PM            

Hi iQ,

Thank you very much for your answers. Here is another question.

A's Atlantis quincunx B's Valentine
B's Atlantis oppose A's Valentine

A's Atlantis trine B's Chiron
B's Atlantis trine A's Chiron

(Orbs are less than 1 degree)

posted February 02, 2010 04:56 AM            

My N valentine/Siva square his N valentine
My N valentine/Siva trine his N.N

My DR valentine opp his N valentine
My Dr valentine opp his Dr Osiris/Isis/N valentine
My Dr amor/wertex trine his DR osiris/isis/N valentine

His DR valentine conj his owns Natal N.N
His DR valentine/N.N trine my N valentine/Siva
His DR valentine/ N.N trine my N venus/N.N
His DR valentine/ N.N sext my N amor/wertex
His DR valentine quinkunks my Dr amor/wertex

In our N synastri we have DW amor/N.N and also in our Draconic chart but from Amor to natal N.N of course.

LOOK AT THE ASPECT HERE TO MY PLUTO

His N PLUTO quintile my Proserpina (1-2)
My N PLUTO/kaali trine his N merk/proserpina DW
His DR proserpina/N /lust/eros quinkunx my N PLUTO/Kaali
His DR proserpina/N/lust/eros trine my DR kaali/PLUTO

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ASPECT TO MY PLUTO OR HIS? (from proserpina/persephone)
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ASPECT FROM PLUTO TO PROSERPINA OR PERSEPHONE?

His N persephone square my N persephone (0)/merk/uran/kaali
HIs N persephone opp his own DR moon which conj my N moon/DR merk/uran/kaali

His DR Proserpina/N/lust/eros conj my N/ DC/angel/BML
His DR proserpina/N lust/eros opp my AC/SUN
His DR proserpina/N lust/eros square My DR Sun/AC/N DNA/osiris
His DR persephone conj his owns N proserpina/merk

GRAND TRINE/YOD

His DR persophone/N proserpina/merk trine my N merk/uran/Kaali/PLUTO
His DR persephone/N proserpina trine My N DNA/osiris/DR Sun/AC
His DR persephone/N merk/proserpina quinkunks my Sun/AC
His DR persephone/N merk/proserpina quinkunks his owns DR moon conj my N moon/DR merk/uran/kaali/PLUTO

HERE IS HIS PLUTO TO MY PERSEPHONE

His DR PLUTO quinkunx my DR persephone(1)
His DR PLUTO sextil my N Persephone(3)

His DR siva trine my N proserpina
His DR siva trine my N proserpina/DR valentine/siva

My N proserpina conj my owns DR valentine/Siva

What do you say about all the valentine/pluto/persephone/proserpina connection between us.

For me it is so strange we can have so strong connection between each other...weird in some way..

For me I get some answer to the chemistry I could feel.