posted June 05, 2009 07:24 AM            

What are your thoughts about Adonis in synastry? Does it mean something different in male and female charts?

What about Adonis conjunct another's midpoints? Such as Sun/Moon and Venus/Mars?

posted June 05, 2009 09:17 AM            

Songwriter-Q-1

Karma conjunct Mercury (1)
Karma trine Mars (1)

Kaali oppose Pluto (1)
Kaali trine Neptune (0)
Kaali square Venus (0)

Lucifer conjunct Mars (0)
Lucifer trine Karma (1)

posted June 05, 2009 11:13 AM            

I`ve been having a closer look at the DRaco synastry with Paul (the score of this synastry is about 48 points according to your soulmate calculator).

I don`t have an actual question, but I thought maybe it would interest you a little bit. (my first impression was, this is really a tough one with all these Saturn aspects).

Draco - Draco

His Sun trine my Neptune
His Moon square my Karma

His Venus trine my Sun
His Venus square my Valentine
His Mars conjunct my Saturn
His Mars trine my Juno

His Saturn opposite my Mars
His Saturn opposite my Amor
His Karma square my Amor

His Juno square my Karma
His Juno opposite my Juno
His Eros trine my Amor
His Psyche conjunct my Sun

His Amor square my Pluto
His Valentine opposite my Juno

His Isis conjunct my Sun

His Moon conjunct my Persephone
His Persephone trine my Amor
His Proserpina opposite my Amor

His Osiris trine my Chiron

His Innanen conjunct my Adonis

Draco – tropical

His Sun conjunct my Amor
His Moon conjunct my Venus

His Venus opposite my Karma
His Venus square my Juno

His Saturn square my Sun
His Saturn square my Proserpina
His Pluto conjunct my Chiron
His Pluto trine my Proserpina
His Chiron square my Eros
His Karma trine my Chiron
His Karma conjunct my Proserpina

His Juno conjunct my Venus
His Eros trine my Eros
His Psyche square my Saturn

His Valentine conjunct my Venus
His Valentine square my Pluto
His Valentine conjunct my Isis
His Valentine conjunct my Osiris

His Isis square my Saturn
His Osiris opposite my Pluto
His Osiris trine my NN

His Innanen conjunct my Moon
His Innanen trine my Karma

Tropical – Draco

His Sun conjunct my Sun

His Mars conjunct my Amnor

His Saturn opposite my Chiron
His Saturn square my Eros
His Pluto square my Moon
His NN trine my Sun
His SN conjunct my Adonis
His Chiron squayre my Moon
His Chiron trine my Saturn
His Karma opposite my Saturn
His Karma square my Chiron

His Eros opposite my Karma
His Eros square my Juno

His Amor conjunct my Valentine

His Persephone trine my Chiron
His Persephone conjunct my Proserpina
His Proserpina trine my Moon
His Proserpina square my Saturn
His Proserpin opposite my Chiron

His Osiris trine my Isis

I guess all those squares spell out very clearly the impossibility. What do you think?

posted June 07, 2009 07:44 PM            

1 - Which one can be more meaningful? An aspect found in a tropical synastry chart, or this very same aspect found in a draconic synastry chart?
For example, which is more meaningful - having Valentine conjunct AC in the tropical synastry, or in the draconic synastry?
(it could be interpreted as which type of charts could be more meaningful, even thought they are both important)

2 - What's your definition of draconic charts/synastry? What does it mean for you?

posted June 08, 2009 08:05 AM            

Meta mentioned in the "persona thread" that you said that there could be hints at "soulmate-potential" in the persona charts.

posted June 09, 2009 12:08 PM            

I saw that you said that Draco`s relate to past lives, so you probably could even see the change of a relationship from past life to present incarnation? If for example the Draco`s are full of lovey dovey aspects, but the tropical is not, then this would mean those people will not be able to have a love relationship again, at least not in this life?

I have looked at a synastry for a man and a woman, and since there were so many aspects, I only used an orb of 1°30 for conjunction and one degree orb for all other aspects.
I still came up with several aspects:

DRaco - Draco

his Moon conjunct her ASC
his Moon conjunct her Lust on 27.3 Pisces

his Venus trine her Karma
his Mars trine her Isis

his Pluto square her Saturn

his Juno opposite her Mars

his Eros trine her Destinn

his PErsephone conjunct her Persephone on 02-03 Capricorn

his Innanen conjunct her Destinn on 13 - 14 Scorpio

his Isis square her Sun

his Chiron trine her Chiron

his Lust conjunct her ASC
his Lust conjunct her Lust

Draco - Tropical

his Sun opposite her Destinn
His Moon trine her Valentine

his Saturn square her NN
his Saturn trine her Isis
his Pluto trine her ASC
his Pluto trine her Lust

his DSC conjunct her Amor

his Karma trine her Venus

his Union conjunct her Union

his Valentine trine her Persephone

Tropical - Draco

his NN conjunct her PRoserpina
his NN trine her Chiron

his Pluto opposite her Adonis

his Destinn opposite her Destinn

his Union conjunct her Eros on 10.5 Scorpio
his Union square her Chiron

his Juno conjunct her Karma

his Eros conjunct her Amor

his Innanen trine her Destinn

his Isis trine her Mars

his Isis oposite her Osiris (2.2)
his Osiris trine her Isis
his Osiris trine her Pluto
his Osiris trine her Osiris

his Chiron square her Valentine

Tropical - Tropical

his NN trine her NN
his SN conjunct her Pluto on 9-10 Libra

his MOon square her Venus
his Moon trine her ASC
his Moon trine her Lust
his MOon square her Isis
his Moon square her Osiris

his Venus trine her Karma

his Mars ocnjunct her Pluto
his Pluto opposite her Moon

his DSC conjunct her NN

his Valentine opposite her Eros

his Psyche square her Lust

his Persephone trine her Persephone
his Proserpina square her NN

his Innanen trine her Destinn

his Osiris opposite her Valentine
(his Isis trine her Valentine, but this one is 2 degree wide)

his Lust trine her ASC
his Lust trine her Lust

What I gathered from a glance is.
1. there was possibly a love relationship, maybe even marriage in a past life (Venus/Karma, Juno/Karma).

2. there was most likely a heavy emphasis on sexual attraction, maybe even too much (Moon/ Lust, Eros/Destinn, Lust / ASC, Lust / Lust, Union / Eros, Eros/Amor)

3. but there was also some emotional connection (Moon/ASC, Moon/Valentine, DSC/Amor) and much intensity

4. there are some Isis/Osiris connections that I cannot really interprete, but that DW doesn`t look too bad

5. BUT for some reason this relationship seems to not have worked out; there was a lot of pressure and probably hurt feelings (Pluto/Saturn, Saturn/NN, Union/Chiron, Chiron/Valentine).

And now maybe something of that strong sexual attraction resonates into this life, too, even though in a softer way (the Lust-conjunctions from the DRaco`s have changed into trines).
Yet intensity and transformative potential still seems to be there (Mars/Pluto, Moon/Pluto), but maybe too oppressive.

And also the SN-Pluto conjuncts again hints at "power-issues" stemming from this past life.

posted June 09, 2009 02:51 PM            

I've ignored the rest of the aspects, coz these ones seems more meaningful.

"n" in the front means "natal", while "d" means draconic.

case 1:

- girl's natal Siva trine guy's natal Parvati and exact sextile guy's natal Kaali;

- guy's nKaali exact conjunct girl's nVertex;
- girl's nRudra oppose guy's nVertex;

- girl's nRudra trine guy's nSun;
- girl's nParvati trine guy's nMoon;
- girl's nParvati conjunct guy's nSaturn;

- guy's dRudra exact square girl's dSiva and exact trine girl's dParvati;

- guy's dSiva square girl's dMoon/dVenus;

- girl's dSiva conjunct guy's dSaturn;
- girl's dKaali exact oppose guy's dPluto;

- guy's dSiva exact trine girl's nSun;
- guy's dRudra conjunct girl's nNN;

case 2:

- guy's nParvati exact square girl's nKaali;
- nRudra exact square nRudra;

- girl's nKaali exact conjunct guy's nMoon, exact oppose guy's nKarma;
- girl's nParvati exact square nMars;
- girl's nRudra oppose guy's nMars;

- guy's dParvati square girl's dRudra;

- guy's dRudra square girl's dKarma;

- girl's dRudra exact conjunct guy's dMoon, exact oppose guy's dKarma;

- guy's dKaali exact oppose girl's nSun;
- guy's dParvati oppose girl's nMars;
- guy's dRudra exact conjunct girl's nAC;

- girl's dParvati conjunct guy's nSiva;

case 3:

- nRudra conjunct nLust DW;

- guy's nKaali trine girl's nSiva;

- girl's nKaali oppose guy's nMars;

- guy's dRudra exact trine girl's dRudra;

- guy's dRudra square girl's dVenus;
- guy's dSiva exact square girl's dKarma;

- girl's dKaali exact conjunct guy's dSun;
- guy's dKarma exact trine girl's dSiva and exact square girl's dParvati;

And one last question: I have Kaali exact conjunct my Sun.. is that a good thing? X3

Hope this isn't too confuse or bothersome.. ^_^; Thank You~!

posted June 10, 2009 10:03 AM            

her karma square his venus-
conjunct his juno
opposite his valentine
conjunct his ascendant.

his karma:

trine her eros
sesqudrate her valentine
opposite her persephone

his juno
trine her sun,mercury, mars
inconjunct her venus
conjunct her karma-
trine her persephone-
square her ascendant

his amor trine her sun, merc,
square her venus, and conjunct her mars

posted June 11, 2009 10:13 PM            

IQ besides that karma/moon DW square i found i also share Proserpina/moon DW square with the girl. What would the second mean?

We also have pluto inconjunct proserpina within one degree in our composite. Is that a difficult aspect since its a inconjunction.

I would also like to ask about karma/moon conjunction we have in a composite? Karma is still in the late degrees of the 7th house, moon is in the early degrees of 8th.

posted June 12, 2009 12:16 PM            

LOGOS at 15' Leo exactly conjunct fixed star Dubhe.

Dubhe
The Bear - Astrology, arrogance, psychic power, destruction; aka Krathu, one of the 7 Rishis (Hindu sages) in Ursa Major; Bast Isis, the Egyptian goddess; "The Eye"; "Heaven's Pivot"

LOGOS trine Sun orb; 1 and exactly square Saturn. There is also Sun quincunx Saturn. Altogether they form a mystical triangle.

LOGOS trine Sun and trine Uranus. I also have an exact Sun-Uranus trine. Altogether they form a grand trine.

Sun is at 13-14 deg Aries - A Serpent Coiling Near A Man And A Woman
Uranus is at 13-14 deg Sagittarius - The Great Pyramid And The Sphinx
LOGOS is at 15-16 deg Leo - The Storm Ended, All Nature Rejoices In Brilliant Sunshine
Saturn is at 15-16 deg Scorpio - A Girl's Face Breaking Into A Smile

ANGEL at 29' Cancer conjunct my 1.2 degrees Leo AC, square Pluto orb; 1 and exactly trine Mars. The Sabian Symbol says for ANGEL, "A Daughter of The American Revolution"

posted June 13, 2009 09:15 AM            

IQ, what would you say about a person with a Grand Cross formed by: (Lucifer conjunct Lilith)-Mars-Nessus-(Pluto conjunct Saturn)? Would this person be like some sort of hell spawn or something?

posted June 13, 2009 03:33 PM            

Hello IQ! can you tell me what's your interpretation for my Juno/Vesta/Venus/Nessus stellium in Leo in the 6th house?
All of them squared by saturn (in scorpio) in the 9th and moon (taurus) in the 3rd.

I have another question!

Q-2:

How would you interpret this "Grand-Cross" (comparing my draconic to my natal chart) Draco Pluto -7th H- opposite natal Ascendant square draco Sun -4th H- opp natal Mars -10th H-?

Looks scary to me- hehe :O

posted June 13, 2009 09:54 PM            

Hey!

I have another question about Valentine conjuncting venus and valentine sextile mars in the synastry chart. Her valentine is conjunct my venus 1°, my valentine is sextile her mars exactly. What do these aspects mean, between two people? How about Karma conjuncting Mercury?

Also i found these asteroids in my chart, if you could please tell me IQ if the placements are of any significance:

Karma con Atlantis exactly between 2-3 degrees in Libra. There is a sabian symbol for this placement that says: The Dawn Of A New Day Reveals Everything Changed. Does this mean anything?

My Kaali is conjuncting my IC.

MY Isis conjunct my Sun, Juno and Vesta and Logos.

Also a question about my sabian symbols for venus and AC.

AC:A Fellowship Supper Reunites Old Comrades

Venus: A Mermaid Emerges From The Ocean Waves Ready For Rebirth In Human Form.

What would they mean?

posted June 13, 2009 10:20 PM              

Hi IQ

posted June 13, 2009 11:20 PM            

The 4 years since then have been of phenomenal growth for both of us individually.

I had my doubts becoz we dont have an ASC but a DC conjunct to planet in our synastry.

And also an absence of venus-pluto DW that you have said is a MUST for twin souls to be united in a life.

well i looked at our synastry yesterday and found a DW allright

Persephone to Hades .

Hades is a trans nep whereas the asteroid persephone is not.

this myth is so strongly there in our synastry and YOU of all people know all the bits about my love story .So my qsn could also be a lesson for you in decoding myths , esp this one.

look at our aspects of persephone and pluto .

My Asteroid Proserpina conjunct his Draco Ascendent to the second

My Persephone conjunct his Draco Descendent to the second

My Proserpina H57 conjunct his Vertex to the second, sextile his sun and juno exactly

My persephone squares his Hades h41

My Hades h41 trine his Persephone

His Hades conjunct my Valentine

his Proserpina quincinx my Pluto to the second

his Proserpina h57 conjunct my pluto

You know my history with my other half, you know all about my turmoils , do you think these aspects signify anything about whther we will be united at all ?

My own hs says we going to be united soon but that i will die ...those are the exact words.And i have died in every life after we have come together as a couple in most tragic circumstances as u know.

in the reverse - knowing my story , right from the time i asked for a gender and had his soul mortalised - how does the pluto-persephone myth now appear to you ?

How would you interpret the myth in the light of my aspects and real experiences ?

And about my death ?

posted June 14, 2009 03:19 PM            

"So what are your Egyptian themes?"

OSIRIS 1-2 deg Gemini
"Santa Claus Furtively Filling Stockings Hanging In Front Of Fireplace"

OSIRIS square SEKHMET and TUTENCHAMUN orb; 0
OSIRIS square SPHINX orb; 1
OSIRIS quincunx Neptune and Pluto orb; 0
OSIRIS sextile AC orb; 0
OSIRIS conjunct Chiron orb; 2

ISIS 0-1 deg Cancer
"On A Ship The Sailors Lower An Old Flag And Raise A New One"

ISIS trine SEKHMET, TUTENCHAMUN and Pluto orb; 0
ISIS trine SPHINX orb; 2
ISIS oppose Neptune orb; 0
ISIS sextile Mercury orb; 1

ANUBIS 16-17 deg Capricorn
"A Repressed Woman Finds A Psychological Release In Nudism"

ANUBIS square Sun orb; 2
ANUBIS square MC orb; 0
ANUBIS sextile Saturn orb; 1

NEPHTHYS 7-8 deg Taurus
"A Sleigh On Land Uncovered By Snow"

NEPHTHYS conjunct Moon orb; 1
NEPHTHYS quincunx PTAH orb; 1

HORUS 22-23 deg Sagittarius
"A Group Of Immigrants As They Fulfill The Requirements Of Entrance Into The New Country"

HORUS square Venus orb; 1

PTAH 8-9 deg Sagittarius
"A Mother Leads Her Small Child Step By Step Up A Steep Stairway"

PTAH conjunct S. Node orb; 0

SEKHMET 1-2 deg Pisces
"A Squirrel Hiding From Hunters"

SEKHMET conjunct TUTENCHAMUN orb; 0
SEKHMET conjunct SPHINX orb; 2
SEKHMET quincunx AC orb; 0
SEKHMET trine Pluto orb; 0
SEKHMET square Chiron orb; 2
SEKHMET sextile Neptune orb; 0
SEKHMET sextile Mercury orb; 1

GIZA 25-26 deg Capricorn
"A Nature Sprit Dancing In The Iridescent Mist Of A Waterfall"

GIZA sextile Venus orb; 1
GIZA sextile Mars orb; 2

SPHINX 3-4 deg Pisces
"Heavy Car Traffic On A Narrow Isthmus Linking Two Seashore Resorts"

SPHINX conjunct TUTENCHAMUN orb; 2
SPHINX trine Pluto orb; 2
SPHINX sextile Neptune orb; 2
SPHINX sextile Moon orb; 1
SPHINX sextile Mercury orb; 0

TUTENCHAMUN 1-2 deg Pisces
"A Squirrel Hiding From Hunters"

TUTENCHAMUN quincunx AC orb; 0
TUTENCHAMUN square Chiron orb; 1
TUTENCHAMUN trine Pluto orb; 0
TUTENCHAMUN sextile Neptune orb; 0
TUTENCHAMUN sextile Mercury orb; 1

NEFERTITI 29-30 deg Capricorn
"A Secret Meeting Of Men Responsible For Executive Decisions In World Affairs"

NEFERTITI quincunx ISIS orb; 1
NEFERTITI trine OSIRIS orb; 2
NEFERTITI trine Chiron orb; 0
NEFERTITI square Pluto orb; 1
NEFERTITI sextile Mars orb; 1
NEFERTITI oppose AC orb; 1

KLEOPATRA 8-9 deg Capricorn
"An Angel Carrying A Harp"

KLEOPATRA trine NEPHTHYS orb; 1
KLEOPATRA quincunx T. Node orb; 0

What do you think of these aspects, iQ?

posted June 15, 2009 05:27 AM            

IQ,

you mentioned that you wouldn´t use Kaali and Siva in love synastry.

posted June 15, 2009 05:30 AM            

IQ,

you mentioned that you wouldn´t use Kaali and Siva in love synastry.

posted June 15, 2009 07:29 AM            

Can you give me an interp for Destinn conjunct Lucifer in natal. And Sun conjunct Psyche, natal.

posted June 15, 2009 10:19 AM            

What do you think when a person's Circe/Odysseus asteroid is aspected in synastry, specially by the other person's Odysseus/Circe? I've read about their story and Odysseus was unfaithful to his wife with Circe. So could the aspects of those asteroids points out any infidelity?

For example, if a guy is committed but his Circe is conjunct with another girl's Odysseus (or maybe his Odysseus with her Circe), would that mean danger (guy being unfaithful to his gf with this girl)? How about a girl that is committed having that aspect with another guy that isn't her bf?

posted June 15, 2009 05:52 PM            

Hmm I would like to ask what are your thoughts about two person having a great score in your soulmates calculator when using draconic charts, while they've got a low score when using tropical charts; and also your thoughts about when the opposite happens (great tropical synastry, less score in the draconic synastry).

posted June 21, 2009 01:08 PM            

KARMA 13-14 deg Virgo
"An Aristocratic Family Tree"

KARMA exactly conjunct fixed star Coxa!
Coxa - Good for voyages, gain by merchandise, redemption of captives; prophetic ability (with Zosma: "Kua, the Oracle"); strength; wisdom 13° Virgo 25 Fortunate Saturn/ Venus

KARMA square 13-14 deg Sagittarius Uranus and quincunx 13-14 deg Aries Sun. Also there's a trine between Sun-Uranus. They make a Mystical Triangle.

Jupiter 11-12 deg Capricorn
"An Illustrated Lecture On Natural Science Reveals Little-Known Aspects Of Life"

KARMA trine 11-12 deg Capricorn Jupiter and trine Sun. I also have a Sun-Jupiter square in my chart. So again it's a Mystical Triangle!

posted June 22, 2009 12:29 PM            

His psyche conjunct her sun in his 8th house
EXACT
His psyche trine her saturn, conjunct her uranus,
opposite her vertex,
opposite her eros,
quintile her valentine.
trine her cupido
trine her persephone
and conjunct her psyche.

his union opposite her venus,
square her mars,
conjunct her POF,
conjunct her amor and union,
trine her ascendant.
unions conjunct in his fourth house.

her union:
trine his pluto
trine his eros
trine his ascendant

her psyche
sexiles his saturn
conjunct his vertex
trine his juno, amor
sextile his valentine
conjunct his cupido
square his persephone
conjunct his psyche.

her union, amor, cupido
fall in his first house.

her psyche in his 8th house
peresephone in his 4th
union in his 4th.

his psyche and cupido in her 12th
his amor in her 8th.