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LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
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posted March 16, 2009 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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you are better than me lexx, i think his relatives deserve sypathy cards if he is still breathing.
I forgave him. He has not raped anyone since I contacted him over 10 years after he raped me. He said..

"I wanted to say something, I wanted to explain, but I was afraid to because I figured you'd sic the dogs or cops on me if I tried to just talk to you about what happened".....

We did not actually talk about the rape...but about the drinking problem he had back then (he was only 20 an an alcoholic already).....and other issues.
I understood and he shed a tear of deep shame and pain. Was it equal in compensation to what he did? No.
But that is what it means to let go and get off the Karmic Payback Wheel and move on.
I made it quite clear to him though,...he better not do such a thing again, because others know and will be watching.
But now he is old, lonely and forgotten.
He is paying in his own way.
So Lara and some others who think I cannot move on and let go...do not know me...
just like my finding a new wife for both my ex husbands......I am happy for them.....glad they have people better for them...and I helped set them up!

I have sat and counseled and listened to the problems of people who have assaulted me and broken my ribs, chased me at gunpoint...shot at me...and so forth.
And some think I cannot move on?

I am known for my bridge burnings and or crossings..by those who know me well!LOL!

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posted March 16, 2009 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Regarding the ongoing discussion I`m repeating my point of view (and then I will - hopefully - let go of this topic).

1. It`s human to look for explanations and reasons.

2. There is no excuse for rape (or any other kind of violence) and NOONE deserves it.

3. Spiritual concepts and philosophies should not be used as justification of crimes.

4. Of course everyone needs to find a way to deal with such things and eventually move on, but that doesn`t mean to trivialize the gravity of that crime.

5. To move on and maybe even forgive or find a reason why it happened (be it coincidence, fate, whatever), is most important for the "victim". In moving on from that what happened, I give myself release and freedom (even though the emotional scars will always be there).

6. Showing compassion is far more important than ANY theoretical construct or belief.


7. We are all at different places in our spiritual development, and we are exactly where we are supposed to be and have the right to develop in the speed and way and direction that is right for us (I am talking about relatively sane individuals here, which of course is a judgement again).

8. Noone is to judge anyone else`s opinion / belief / perspective.
We are human, so we probably can`t stop that judgement-thing. But at least we can try.

9. We need to learn to disagree without becoming personal.

10. We need to learn to share our experiences without getting patronizing and fall into the "I am enlightened and therefore I can tell you what is right and what is not" - routine.
Everyone needs to learn and grow their own way.

Sending peace, compassion and love to all of you.



Namaste'

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posted March 16, 2009 04:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara,

well, the axis Aries (IC) and Libra (MC) has always been important to me, a real attraction-vortex, just as the axis of Capricorn - Cancer (my Vertex-axis) - and of course the balance-axis of IC-MC.

Interestingly my Draco Sun, Mercury, Venus, Isis and Osiris are all in Aries in my tropical 4th house!

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posted March 16, 2009 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah so even at the risk of getting judged 'over-sensitive' or 'argumentative'... I still say that your statement was an irresponsible one that shows a shallow understanding of karma.... You do not need to repay one with the same. Instant karma doesn't work like that either. If I rape someone in a past life that ABSOLUTELY does not mean I'm owed a rape.... THINK about this concept please. It's absoultely ridiculous. Lara you are a grown woman and you cannot see this?

PEACE does not come about by avoiding confrontation... Peace comes about by resolving issues and working together, listening to each party.

I understand that the intention was not there to hurt, but it was an irresponsible statement that holds no merit whatsoever... NONE.
Do you think that by killing the man who killed your child for instance will set the record even? NO it does not, it just creates more magnetic energy to allow for abuse to reoccur, whats reoccurring is abuse, not Karma. Karma is readjusted by forgiveness and love, not eye for an eye.


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posted March 16, 2009 05:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quinnie
It was an example, just like my example of a rapist becoming a heart surgeon!

Is everything taken so literally? What happened to lateral conversation?

I know about karma... I'm fast-tracking a karmic life and yes I know that eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

My expression is way too lateral fir these discussions within LL, I realize that now.
Sorry if I offended you Quinnie. I was trying to take this to another level but I shall stick to mediocrity and astrology from now on

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posted March 16, 2009 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara,
I understand lateral thinking but I'm more of a literal interpretor, it gets me into trouble.... I'm an emotional suggestible type person and I think you may be physical suggetible.... Want to take the test?

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posted March 16, 2009 06:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sure, show me the way! I love tests or anything mental

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posted March 16, 2009 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
K...

1 Have you ever walked in your sleep during your adult life? YES NO
2 As a teenager, did you feel comfortable expressing your feelings to one or both of your parents? YES NO
3 Do you have a tendency to look directly into a person's eyes and/or move closely to them when YES NO
discussing an interesting subject?
4 Do you feel that most people, when you first meet them, are uncritical of your appearance? YES NO
5 In a group situation with people you have just met, would you feel comfortable drawing YES NO
attention to yourself by initiating a conversation?
6 Do you feel comfortable holding hands or hugging someone you are in a relationship with YES NO
in front of other people?
7 When someone talks about feeling warm physically, do you begin to feel warm also? YES NO
8 Do you tend to occasionally tune out when someone is talking to you because you YES NO
are anxious to come up with your side, and, at times, not hear what the other person said?
9 Do you feel that you learn and comprehend better by seeing and /or reading than by hearing? YES NO
10 In a new class or lecture situation, do you usually feel comfortable asking questions YES NO
in front of the group?
11 When expressing your ideas, do you find it important to relate all the details leading up to the YES NO
subject so the other person can understand it completely?
12 Do you enjoy relating to children? YES NO
13 Do you find it easy to be at ease and comfortable with your body movements, YES NO
even when faced with unfamiliar people and circumstances?
14 Do you prefer reading fiction rather than non-fiction? YES NO
15 If you were to imagine sucking on a sour, bitter, juicy, yellow lemon, would your mouth water? YES NO
16 If you feel that you deserve to be complimented for something well done, do you feel YES NO
comfortable if the compliment is given to you in front of other people?
17 Do you feel that you are a good conversationalist? YES NO
18 Do you feel comfortable when complimentary attention is drawn to your physical YES NO
body or appearance?
Suggestibility Questionnaire #1
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1 Have you ever awakened in the middle of the night and felt that you could not move YES NO
your body and/or talk?
2 As a child, did you feel that you were more affected by your parents tone of voice, than by YES NO
what they actually said?
3 If someone you are associated with talks about a fear that you have experienced before, YES NO
do you have a tendency to have an apprehensive or fearful feeling also?
4 After having an argument with someone, do you have a tendency to dwell on what you YES NO
could or should have said?
5 Do you tend to occasionally tune out when someone is talking to you and, therefore, do not hear YES NO
what was said because your mind drifts to something totally unrelated?
6 Do you sometimes desire to be complimented for a job well done, but feel embarrassed or YES NO
uncomfortable when complimented?
7 Do you often have a fear or dread of not being able to carry on a conversation with someone YES NO
you've just met?
8 Do you feel self-conscious when attention is drawn to your physical body or appearance? YES NO
9 If you had a choice, would you rather avoid being around children most of the time? YES NO
10 Do you feel that you are not relaxed or loose in body movements, especially when faced YES NO
with unfamiliar people or circumstances?
11 Do you prefer reading non-fiction rather than fiction? YES NO
12 If someone describes a very bitter taste, do you have difficulty experiencing the physical feeling of it? YES NO
13 Do you generally feel that you see yourself less favorably than others see you? YES NO
14 Do you tend to feel awkward or self-conscious initiating touch (holding hands, kissing, etc.) YES NO
with someone you are in a relationship with, in front of other people?
15 In a new class or lecture situation, do you usually feel uncomfortable asking questions in YES NO
front of the group, even though you may desire further explanation?
16 Do you feel uneasy if someone you have just met, looks you directly in the eyes when YES NO
talking to you, especially if the conversation is about you?
17 In a group situation with people you have just met, would you feel uncomfortable drawing YES NO
attention to yourself by initiating a conversation?
18 If you are in a relationship, or are very close to someone, do you find it difficult or YES NO
embarrassing to verbalize your love for them?
Suggestibility Questionnaire #2
Same test only worded slightly differently.

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posted March 16, 2009 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On the first test give yourself for questions 1 and 2 give yourself a score of ten for each yes answer, then for all the other questions, add to that five points for each yes answer.

Then do the same for the second test

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posted March 16, 2009 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
okay now keep the scores for each test seperate and then a third score by adding the two test scores together.
Tell me your scores and I'll look uo your physical/emotional suggestibility percentage....

Does that all make sense?

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posted March 16, 2009 06:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 16, 2009 06:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK quinnie, sorry l copied my answers into here lol
Let me count

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posted March 16, 2009 06:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1st - 65
2nd - 35

TOTAL: 100

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posted March 16, 2009 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok according to your scores you are 67% a physical suggestible person..... This means

(edited) You are a physical suggestible type Lara just as I thought. I am an emotional suggestible type.

EMOTIONAL SUGGESTIBILITY
Definition: A suggestible behavior characterized by a high degree of
responsiveness to inferred suggestions, affecting emotions and restriction of
physical body responses; usually associated with hypnoidal depth. Thus, the
emotional suggestible person learns more by inference than by direct, literal
suggestions.
PHYSICAL SUGGESTIBILITY
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Definition: A suggestible behavior characterized by a high degree of
responsiveness to literal suggestions, affecting the body and restriction of
emotional responses; usually associated with cataleptic stages or deeper.
A physical suggestible is right-brain dominant, while an emotional suggestible
is left-brain dominant.
SOMNAMBULIST
A somnambulist is an individual who has 50/50 suggestibility (i.e., 50%
physical suggestible, 50% emotional suggestible). This type will respond
equally well to all suggestions, both direct and inferred, affecting both the
body and the emotions.
INTELLECTUAL SUGGESTIBLE
This type of person is very analytical, with a high percentage of emotional
suggestibility. The intellectual suggestible fears being controlled by the
hypnotist, and is constantly trying to analyze, reject or rationalize everything
the hypnotist says.

So a physcial suggestible type learns literally but communicates laterally and vice versa for the emotional suggestible.

This test determines the way a person filters communication and this is useful information for a hynotherapist to
know in order to induce their client successfullly... (according to hypnotherapist J.Kappas)

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posted March 16, 2009 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara I was going to suggest taking your answers down incase they were personal.

THere is also the sexuality type test.... This shows your behaviour which includes libido and is usually determined/or conditioned by our parents when we are growing up and is set in stone by the time we reach puberty.

Maybe I should do a different thread for these tests though....

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posted March 16, 2009 06:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow how cool, thanks Quinnie

I definitely learn literally and then turn it into lateral in my head
One of the questions asked about sleep walking.. it's weird cos as a child l slept walked every night but l don't do it anymore... or at least l don't think so!

Does it makes sense to you?

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posted March 16, 2009 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara sleep walking is a sign of being a somnabulist type.... This means you are highly suggestible (or were so as a child)... You would take to hypnosis very well, easily induced into trance...

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posted March 16, 2009 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One last thing to say about your possible somnambulism...... it could idicate tantrik and meditation practises in your past life and possibly showing it's influence through your sleep walking experiences and astral travels...

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posted March 16, 2009 07:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh yes i am... when i did rebirthing l used to go over in seconds, it's true.

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posted March 16, 2009 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Physical suggestibles are easily induced also... but sleepwalking shows somnambulism.
It's food for thought....Somnambulism is a trance state so your body is not paralysed in sleep, what does that mean spiritually?

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posted March 16, 2009 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Quinnie, mine were 65 and 20.
What does it mean, what does it mean?!
*jumping up and down*
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posted March 16, 2009 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
45
10
Total=55

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posted March 16, 2009 11:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting.

Well l was like in a trance. My father would talk to me in the kitchen as l would be getting a drink or something and yet i was asleep. weird

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