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anongrl10
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posted February 05, 2012 03:09 PM
  
How about Moon-Pluto aspects?
I have this DB with this guy: My Pluto conj his moon and his Pluto square my Sun/Merc and trine my Saturn. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted February 05, 2012 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by anongrl10:
How about Moon-Pluto aspects?
I have this DB with this guy: My Pluto conj his moon and his Pluto square my Sun/Merc and trine my Saturn.
I think you should look at your natal charts.
What does Pluto do in your chart? In his?
If one of you (or both) isn't comfortable with Pluto energy then power struggles/control issues are likely.
One of you may not appreciate the intensity of the connection and feel overwhelmed, and thus run away or act distant.
It's a deep connection, nothing superficial here, so beware! IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted February 05, 2012 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I think you should look at your natal charts.
What does Pluto do in your chart? In his?
If one of you (or both) isn't comfortable with Pluto energy then power struggles/control issues are likely.
One of you may not appreciate the intensity of the connection and feel overwhelmed, and thus run away or act distant.
It's a deep connection, nothing superficial here, so beware!
My Pluto is in my 8th and trines my Moon (our Moons are trine too).
His Pluto opposes his Venus.
The weird thing is that his Pl-Ven opposition is falling almost exact on my Nodal axis and Vertex axis.
We already feel very deeply connected -both of us... IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted February 05, 2012 04:13 PM
All right, so you're both quite Plutonian.
You are probably more comfortable with these energies than he is, however, considering that his Pluto is afflicted while yours is well-aspected. So he may display some of the negative traits associated with Pluto but it doesn't have to be all bad; if you guys can handle the intensity then things can go well. Try your best to communicate with each other, and don't let resentment or fear interfere. I hope things work out for you. IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted February 05, 2012 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
All right, so you're both quite Plutonian.
You are probably more comfortable with these energies than he is, however, considering that his Pluto is afflicted while yours is well-aspected. So he may display some of the negative traits associated with Pluto but it doesn't have to be all bad; if you guys can handle the intensity then things can go well. Try your best to communicate with each other, and don't let resentment or fear interfere. I hope things work out for you.
My Pluto is also the sign of my Venus which is in square to my Mars and opposes (in wide orb though) my Moon. So I'm not sure how unafflicted my Pluto is given that it's in trine with my Moon and my Moon is part of my t-sq.
He's a Scorpio rising so I guess his Pluto energy is evident (he looks like a Scorpio though he's a Cappie Sun). My Venus is almost exact on his Asc. My Moon in his DC. And so on. Thanks for the wish btw.
I value communication a lot and I think a relationship can only survive when it's based on good communication. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted February 05, 2012 04:44 PM
Try not to worry about it, Anongrl, if things are going well for now, there is no reason to be worried, really. Just enjoy your time together, and if things get bad try to work them out, as soon as they surface. Though it's hard to just "go with the flow" when Pluto is concerned, try your best to keep things in perspective and don't get too worked up.
All the best.IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted February 05, 2012 05:14 PM
Thanks but I'm not worried, just curious about how this part of the synastry works.
I have to chuckle because quite often my intensity and depth at looking at things make most people think that I "worry" or am "all worked up" where I'm not. Just curious really about the astrological side of things!  IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted February 05, 2012 05:22 PM
I know this was posted last year but.... quote:
he whispered in my ear to give him a kiss. So as l leant in to kiss him he turned away and put his hand up to stop me.
oh I just bet he had an Aries Venus.... LOL
Most childishly idiotic men alive. IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted February 05, 2012 05:23 PM
^^ I agree. That was childish and over the top offensive. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted February 05, 2012 05:24 PM
Oh! Well that's a very good thing then!
You're doing it the right way  IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted February 05, 2012 05:31 PM
And just try to explain to them that this kind of behavior is just plain nasty! They are convinced you are *loving* it! I mean how could you not love it? Would you really want to have one of those normal/mature boyfriends who treat you with - I don't know - respect? Whatever FOR? The last online issue of "www.why-women-love-jerks.com" clearly stated that a girl will dump a guy unless he keeps her interested with some random teasing every now and again. And..
"OH - you mean you really don't LIKE me teasing you?
Well then there is JUST something wrong with you and you're obviously NOT woman enough for me!!!! You obviously just don't appreciate the absolute genius of my sexuality and my teasing tactics! What kind of female are you anyhow? All women are supposed to like bad boys. You should see a psychologist and get your head checked for loose screws!" Aries Venus = L..oser... Capital "L".
Just my past experience. PS. Please don't take it personally anyone.. because YES - I am absolutely positive that there exist Aries Venus men in this world who handle this position with more dignity. IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted February 05, 2012 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Oh! Well that's a very good thing then!
You're doing it the right way
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Doux Rêve
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posted February 05, 2012 05:49 PM
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And just try to explain to them that this kind of behavior is just plain nasty! They are convinced you are *loving* it! I mean how could you not love it? Would you really want to have one of those normal/mature boyfriends who treat you with - I don't know - respect? Whatever FOR? The last online issue of "www.why-women-love-jerks.com" clearly stated that a girl will dump a guy unless he keeps her interested with some random teasing every now and again.
I have no idea why some people are so disrespectful of their partners.
Maybe they somehow sense that their partners won't leave them even if they act like j**ks, so they take advantage of them, and humiliate them in order to feel "superior" or something. Or maybe they aren't even aware of the impact of their actions? But that is unlikely, I am pretty sure they know what they're doing.
Maybe some guys are afraid that if they act too kind, the girl will lose interest, so they just tease her to keep her hooked. But that's not an excuse to act disrespectfully, of course. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted February 05, 2012 06:18 PM
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Or maybe they aren't even aware of the impact of their actions? But that is unlikely
I think it's very likely, personally! Because they think it is slightly embarrassing like a playful "tease" that would also turn the girl on.. Whereas in the girl's mind it might be seriously nasty and enough to call it *quits* on the relationship. Some people are genuinely *mindless* as to how their behaviour affects others. I think I've developed a pretty good radar for them and stir way clear. That's not to say you'll never find a psychological basket-case who does know what he/she is doing and who intentionally *wants* to cause hurt... But imo the majority truly have NO clue. A lot of these guys think the woman finds the behaviour sexually *enjoyable*. They don't get it at all. And if you explain it - they still don't get it. The only thing to do is to completely cut them off. Because one would imagine that if they get dumped enough times - they will eventually learn from that. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted February 05, 2012 06:23 PM
If they're not even aware of how their actions affect others, now that's a problem.But now that I think about it, if they *are* aware, that's a problem too lol. Anyway, the best thing to do is probably just avoid such people. No one should put up with bad behaviour. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted February 05, 2012 06:26 PM
Also - I know I'm going off topic ... But I had to add... The absolute biggest mistake you can make with a guy like this is to forgive him and carry on with the relationship. This will never change them or their crappy behavior. It registers in their mind as "she really DOES like it!".
Honestly - the only way they understand that they shouldn't behave this way is if you completely break things off permanently (not on-again & off-again!). This actually registers as *Rejection*. On the down side - you will never be with him. On the up side - you are giving him the chance to learn from his mistakes and to be able to have a mutually-respectful relationship in the future. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted February 05, 2012 06:27 PM
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But now that I think about it, if they *are* aware, that's a problem too lol.
I know what you mean! lol IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted February 05, 2012 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Also - I know I'm going off topic ... But I had to add... The absolute biggest mistake you can make with a guy like this is to forgive him and carry on with the relationship. This will never change them or their crappy behavior. It registers in their mind as "she really DOES like it!".
Honestly - the only way they understand that they shouldn't behave this way is if you completely break things off permanently (not on-again & off-again!). This actually registers as *Rejection*. On the down side - you will never be with him. On the up side - you are giving him the chance to learn from his mistakes and to be able to have a mutually-respectful relationship in the future.
Yes. But do you think some of them can be reasoned with, as in, if you tell them you don't like that kind of behaviour, is there a chance they will actually stop? I guess it depends on the individual. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted February 05, 2012 06:42 PM
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do you think some of them can be reasoned with, as in, if you tell them you don't like that kind of behaviour, is there a chance they will actually stop?
No.
I don't normally give "yes" or "no" answers to any question.
But after my own experiences and the things I've seen other girls go through - I am very decisive in my *No*.
I really do not think there is any way to reason with someone who behaves this way. quote:
I guess it depends on the individual.
It sounds like it *should* depend on the individual.. Some people are probably more reasonable than others.
But I think the KIND of person who would behave this way in the first place is just not very reasonable. Sooooo many times I've seen situations where the girl sticks around trying to change the guy... and he never changes or sometimes he gets worse. I think it's much more common for this to happen Like foxyvilla said earlier... when someone told her she should've dumped him that night -- quote:
l wish l had. lt would've saved me years of heartache and misery.
ALL the women I know - who have been through something similar feel this way.
That's why it's so important to be able to CUT this kind of jerk *off* and quickly. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted February 05, 2012 06:51 PM
That is sad.Thank you very much for elaborating, Betty. I should remember this, so that I don't put up with crappy behaviour and try to change people, because obviously it's a waste of time. We can't change people, they have to change themselves. We can only suggest them to change, but they are the ones who have to do the work. Makes me think of the quote "Prevention is better than cure". IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted February 05, 2012 06:57 PM
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should remember this, so that I don't put up with crappy behaviour
Definitely!
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Doux Rêve
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posted February 05, 2012 07:02 PM
You are a sweetheart Betty I don't post very much here on LL but I like your posts a lot. I usually agree with most of them. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted February 06, 2012 12:22 AM
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anongrl10
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posted February 06, 2012 04:21 AM
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Betty Boop
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posted February 06, 2012 04:41 AM
awwww Thank you Doux! I'm glad it helped  IP: Logged |
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