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Topic: Who feels Lust?
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Lucia23
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posted April 15, 2009 06:43 PM
  
Once and for all, who feels an aspect between a planet and an asteroid? The planet person, or the asteroid person, or both?Could an uneven number of planet-to-asteroid contacts be one indication of unrequited sexual attraction? For example, how would two people feel an exact (0 degree) Sun-Lust square? Who might feel lusty, the Sun person or the Lust person? IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted April 15, 2009 11:33 PM
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MyVirgoMask
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posted April 16, 2009 12:02 AM
I would think maybe the Lust person feels it if it's tight with the other's personal planet. I hear that is how it works with Juno and Eros as well, and I've felt that to be true.
...have no idea what the heck the planet person feels though, sorry  IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted April 16, 2009 12:46 AM
They feel each other's energy. The planet person contains the planet energy and the asteroid person feels it, and vice versa.That's my take on it. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
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posted April 16, 2009 05:24 AM
I think the Sun might feel that the Lust-person is lusting over them, and depending on the Sun`s person`s personality she or he might bath in that attention. But it will not be LUST that is triggered in the Sun person, more some kind of warm, encouraging response (if there is a positive reaction).The Lust-person would probably be completely filled with lust or desire for the Sun-person, just for their personality and the way they are and shine. And yes, I could imagine, that if only one person`s Eros, Lust and Juno, Venus and Mars are triggered, then this could be a hint towards a onesided or at least unequal attraction. IP: Logged |
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posted April 16, 2009 06:42 AM
Ditto DD.Basic rule with aspects is that the planet/asteroid the person uses in the aspect has those qualities of the planet/asteroid. So for example Mars in aspect to another's planet or point, the Mars person will be martian in quality. Points (eg ASC, Vx) are receptive, they like the attention but can't respond back but planets can, planets are an energy/force. IP: Logged |
jane
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posted April 16, 2009 03:13 PM
I think in synastry, it's a two-way street between planets. We'll feel our planet that's being highlighted, but the way that we feel it is colored by the other person's planet touching it. We'll experience our Venus differently when it's someone's Saturn or Mars conjunct it. Our Venus will become more saturnine or martial. In turn, their Saturn or Mars will become more venusian.The conventional view on asteroids is that they're more subtle than planets, so a less sensitive partner may not pick up on your asteroid energy. In that case, the Sun person in your example wouldn't internalize the other person's Lust. I'm not sure if I agree with that view of asteroids though. I'm leaning towards another person being just as capable of feeling a partner's asteroids as their planets. Perhaps what distinguishes how strong they feel it is whether their own chart wires them to welcome that energy. If the Sun person has a strong Lust natally, he's going to welcome another person who brings that energy to him and will know what to do with it.  At least, I can feel it working that way with planets. I love when someone's Uranus aspects my personal planets. Any personal planet, I'm not picky.  And what usually happens is that even though they're the source of the Uranus energy--it's their natal planet--I'm the one who acts that energy out more. This is probably because natally I have a strong Uranus, so I feel at home with that persona. I've noticed with the people whose own Uranus isn't as strong natally, they feel their Uranus as excitement, but they seem to think that I'm the source of that excitement. They expect me to play that role, and I feel myself become more that way around them. So if asteroids can act the same way as planets, then the Lust person will feel a rush of lust when around the Sun person, but it may play out that the Sun person internalizes the other person's lust and is the one who acts more (or just as) lustful. IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted April 16, 2009 04:48 PM
Surely it is two-way just like attraction is?I always used to wonder if, when you are attracted to someone are they attracted back? Finally, l figured that they would have to be for you to be feeling the attraction, if we see that attraction is a mirroring effect. So surely it's the same for aspects? hmmm IP: Logged |
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posted April 16, 2009 04:50 PM
Yes, it is two way attraction because that is what an aspect is by definition. However, what each feels and how the other is seen depends on what planet the person has in this aspect. However, Lust person will feel lust and this will be very observable to the other person. The other planet person will exhibit characteristics of their own planet and will be attracted somehow to Lust and Lust will see qualities of that planet and be lusting over that planet because of it.IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
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posted April 16, 2009 05:18 PM
Even though I basically agree, how do you explain onesided attraction then?I always thought it might have to do with an inequal distribution of planets / asteroids? For example if person A has many aspects to their Venus, ERos or Lust, but person B`s Venus, ERos and Lust are completely unaspected, wouldn´t it point towards a situation, in which only person A is sexually or erotically attracted?
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posted April 16, 2009 05:34 PM
Of course the more these asteroids are touched through aspects, the more they will feel. So it might very well be an imbalance of these asteroids being touched between the pair but I also think it has something to do with house overlay as well or maybe progressions even. IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted April 16, 2009 05:48 PM
lara i agree with you in theory but in practice i have experienced and seen too many one-way attractions to bear it out...but it's a nice assumption to go on, saves one fretting about making a fool of themself!! IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted April 16, 2009 05:53 PM
Maybe my venus/mars/pluto - neptune aspects like to see it that way IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
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posted April 16, 2009 06:23 PM
23,yes, definitely, houses overlays are important in this regard, too. So a synastric Mars-Pluto conjunction squaring Venus, which overlays his 5th and 8th house would be pretty intense I guess?
Just in theory of course.
And yes, I think, that one sided attraction may have to do with an imbalance, that is a great word actually.
I also often found it, if one person`s ruler of 5th, 7th, 8th or 1st house are triggered strongly, while the other person doesn`t have strong ruler aspects of 5th, 7th, 1st and 8th house and no significant planets in this houses in the overlay. But I also wonder, if someone has the ruler of 7th house in 2nd house or 10th house for example, wouldn`t that person feel a stronger attraction to someone who overlays 2nd and 10th house in synastry than someone who hasn`t the 7th house there?
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Lucia23
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posted April 16, 2009 09:18 PM
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I always used to wonder if, when you are attracted to someone are they attracted back?...Finally, l figured that they would have to be for you to be feeling the attraction, if we see that attraction is a mirroring effect.
Lara, I used to think exactly this, till a couple of years ago when I became very attracted to a man who did not want me. (And I STILL can't quite believe he didn't, that's my 8th house Leo Sun, sorry.) But, even if he did, it got me thinking about the many people who have been attracted to me who I was GENUINELY not attracted to back. So my assumption was very personal--that if I felt something for some guy, it meant he was feeling it--and it had coincidentally worked up until that moment. It's sooo complicated. If you're widely considered the prettiest girl in school--or you're a famous rock star--or you're a movie star--more people are going to project onto you than if you're not. Now, this might be reflected in the natal chart--tons of magnetic aspects that helped that person get popular or famous. But this is one of those situations where it gets tricky seeing where astrology leaves off and issues such as social status, socio-cultural ideas of what it considered beautiful and sexy, hormones, race and gender issues, or biological issues come in. IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted April 16, 2009 09:29 PM
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I also often found it, if one person`s ruler of 5th, 7th, 8th or 1st house are triggered strongly, while the other person doesn`t have strong ruler aspects of 5th, 7th, 1st and 8th house and no significant planets in this houses in the overlay.But I also wonder, if someone has the ruler of 7th house in 2nd house or 10th house for example, wouldn`t that person feel a stronger attraction to someone who overlays 2nd and 10th house in synastry than someone who hasn`t the 7th house there?
This is so fascinating and thought-provoking. I'm going to check it out in my synastry with various people. What have you found? IP: Logged |
jane
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posted April 17, 2009 03:42 PM
I really think a synethesis occurs in synastry. Each person feels their own planet, but the way they feel it is influenced by the synastry planet touching it. Your Venus cnj someone's Pluto will love differently than when it's cnj someone's Saturn or Mars. The other person's planet does enter you in the sense that it molds how you feel that personal planet of yours. (I think our outers can be molded as well, if we already feel connected with that outer planet's energy. In other words, if it's already a part of our personality.) So Venus is the one loving, but the love she feels and expresses is shaped by what's touching her. It's not simply a case of her loving what it is she touches. It's not just her loving the other person's Pluto traits. The other person may not even show such traits. What happens, I think, is her own love nature is shaped by Pluto. And the Pluto person, if Pluto is a part of his personality, will in turn focus his Pluto energies on love. He is feeling his own planet, but with a focus on love. I think it works the same way with asteroids. The Lust person feels lustful, and the Sun person experiences themselves in a lustful way. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted July 13, 2019 02:50 AM
My Lust is opposite someone's Venus and Saturn in my first house and im really attracted to them. I'm curious about this if anyone has any more experience.IP: Logged |
mirage29
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posted July 13, 2019 11:19 AM
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