posted April 29, 2009 12:00 PM         

Though I listen to all music, I was posting this up because their "relationship" discussion reminded me alot this thread. I feel it's bit jaded that some of them believe people who date outside their race are self-hating black people =(.

Who are they really to judge, I wish people would just leave it be and let people be happy for once..not every interacial relationship is "self-hating" or "abusive" and to the latter..a "race traitor"..>.>;;

posted April 29, 2009 12:06 PM         

i really need to catch up on the hip new lingo. (is lenny kravitz an afro punk?)

posted April 29, 2009 04:35 PM         

WOMEN are going to rule the world. That's our plan.
You may have noticed.

We have Hillary poised to become the leader of the free world.

She'll clean up that mess in the Oval Office. She wouldn't have made such a mess in the first place.

If anyone complained "I can't find my weapons of mass destruction. Where are they?"

She would have answered: "They're wherever you left them. Now go away. I'm busy."

That would have saved the world a few headaches.

We have a female Deputy Prime Minister. Our PM looks up to Julia mainly because she's quite tall in heels.

We have a female Anglican bishop.

It's about time. Church numbers have dropped possibly because churches are so uncomfortable.

They could do with comfy lounge chairs, some coffee tables, a few cushions and some magazines like, maybe, St Marie Claire and Elle and Damnation.

We'll have a female Governor-General. Personally, I reckon the Queen's representative in Australia should be a corgi named Bess.

Then again Quentin Bryce will truly be an asset especially for the cover of Women's Weekly in an off week for royal scandals.

We were at the 2020 summit which, as you will have noticed, was led mostly by men, but who was going to listen to them?

We had Cate Blanchett. She's world famous. People will take notice of her.

This is what women can do these days: they can give birth and save the world in the same week.

In fact, we women can solve all the world's problems.

I do it with my friends all the time.

What should be done about the petrol price situation?

That's not a problem.

Send Mick Gatto in to sort out the petroleum producers.

What can the International Olympic Committee do to protect the Olympic torch during it's current travels?

They're just not thinking hard enough. The flame should be carried by the shooting teams.

They're all marksmen. They're not going to muck around or miss.

What can we do about so many Aussies being addicted to the pokies?

Pur-lease!!!! That's too easy.

All we have to do is fix each machine so that a loud recorded voice keeps up a running commentary announcing: YOU HAVE NOW LOST $20.

YOU HAVE NOW LOST $25.

Think of the casino with banks and banks of poker machines all making these announcements at the same time. Pokie addicts would soon wake up to the fact they're in a room full of losers!

There'll be no stopping us. We women are going to rule the world.

We'll take over Hollywood.

Cate has already been Bob Dylan.

Next she'll be Bond, Jane Bond.

She'll pop out of the ocean in a bikini, solve global warming with a gadget in her lipstick canister, pick up the kids from kinder in her solar-powered sports car that also desalinates sea water for home use and avert the global recession using her gold credit card a lot.

We'll make the Grand Prix girl-friendly. Girls would be bored driving around in circles all day. There will be some changes. When drivers pit stop at the girl Grand Prix, they'll do the shopping, get a haircut and drop off a video, then get back on the road.

Ruling the world is definitely on the list. But we women are so busy these days. There is just so much to do.

We never get a minute to ourselves.

posted April 29, 2009 05:52 PM         

"Though I listen to all music, I was posting this up because their "relationship" discussion reminded me alot this thread. I feel it's bit jaded that some of them believe people who date outside their race are self-hating black people =(."

"Who are they really to judge, I wish people would just leave it be and let people be happy for once..not every interacial relationship is "self-hating" or "abusive" and to the latter..a "race traitor"..>.>;;"

Yeah....I had problems dealing with that when I was in the navy. There were blacks that got on me because of my being involved with white women. They tried to pin me down as a "black man" even though I embraced all my heritages. Quite a few people thought I look hispanic.

I am like "what the hell....I was born from an interracial relationship between a black man and white woman myself.....why can't be with a woman the color of my mother?"

The great abolutionist,feminist and former-slave, Federick Douglass was the son of a black woman and white man.

people got on his case for marrying a white feminist woman for a 2nd wife after having been married to a black woman for a long until her death.

He said "my first wife was the color of my mother. Now my second wife is the color of my father"

He acknowledged and embraced both being black and white.

I wish people(especially blacks) would let us embrace all our heritages and instead of trying to pin us down as just being black. My mother's heritage as just as important as my father's heritage. I never even knew my father,and so I know nothing about my black roots on my father's side any way.

any ways.......people are people. people of any color could be with others of any color

There is nothing wrong with diversity.

I feel that my Moon in Pisces in 6th square the opposition of my retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th and Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius fit with my life challenges of being born multiracial and having a multicultural background and the racism and intolerance that I had from both black and whites as I acknowledge all my heritages and struggled trying to figure out who and what I am, dealing with being "confused" but also having the idealism and the desire to create bridges between black and white as well as my belief and unity and universal love.

I also believe that my Sun on the South Eris Node in Scorpio in 2nd has to do with collective issues in regards to ideology, diversity matters in a transformative,regenerating, but also obsessive way in the areas of security.

I also believe that the Geocentric South Uranus Node conjunct my Imum Coeli in Sagittarius has to do with past collective karma involving racial differences.

I think that I had pastlives involved in nazism and participating in the African slave trade.

Now I incarnate as a multiracial person born to an interracial couple in San Francisco,California (a city known for diversity,liberalism,and broadmindedness)and growing up in Sacramento,California (city voted most racially integrated major city in 2002),growing up with a multiracial stepfather and 3 half Japanese stepsisters

Today, I was walking home from the post office, a black woman that I didn't even know made a crack at me and called me "Honduras" and tried to act like she can speak Spanish, not knowing that I can't.
I laughed, and I didn't correct her.

some weeks ago, another black woman stopped me when I was on my way to church and asked me what I was. She didn't believe that I was part black when I told her. She thought that I might have been East Indian. She complimented me on my skin color too.

btw I never saw President Obama as a being black. I even think that he looks more like his mother than his father. If people can look past skin color,they would see that he has his mother's facial features too.

Raymond

posted April 29, 2009 06:36 PM         

hopefully the huge percentage of mixed children in the upcoming generation will tip the balance in favour of inclusiveness and end all this baloney.

i used to fantasize about being a mixture of latin, black and oriental when i was young. to me that was the perfect combination...then i realized it really didn't matter.

posted April 30, 2009 09:49 PM         

I'm asian as well the only thing I associate with being stereotypical asian is being a programer and understanding business.

posted July 09, 2009 03:25 PM         

I am a true and solid believer in this. It is just a reality -

...if a guy is not calling you, He's Just Not That Into You

...if a guy hasn't asked you out, He's Just Not That Into You

...if he hasn't made a move, He's Just Not That Into You

...if he is seeing you + other girls, He's Just Not That Into You

It took me a long time to realize this actually. I was one of those people who misread signals (c’mon, Mars opp. Neptune?!) but I have learned over the years. What makes me such an expert? I know lots and lots of people. I have worked, literally, 30 jobs, went to 3 colleges and I used to party hard. Also, something about me invites people to tell me their life stories. This is okay with me because I like to get to know how people think. I even ask probing questions about their marriages and other relationships (“so how did you meet?”, “do you still get along?” yes, I ask that) and once I am in, I even get info about their sex lives. I didn’t say that I asked, people just offer this up and I gladly take it and make mental notes.

As I mentioned in other posts, I am friends with lots and lots of men of all ages and they especially don’t hesitate to tell me the truth and let me in. (Mars trine Pluto, Mars trine Moon - hmm, downtomars, I thought it was just half a line from a song!)

According to them:
- If they want you, they will tell you!!! They’ll ask you out, for your number, if they can see you soon, etc. I have been with guy friends at bars, parties, restaurants and they will leave me hanging if they see someone that they want to talk to and be with. Personally, the guys who I have had
significant relationships with (Leo/Scorp/Virgo, Cap/Sag/Scorp, Scorp/Pisc/Unknown - issues w/birth cert. -I am noticing a serious pattern), made the first approach and made the kill. I wasn’t at my new job for 30 minutes before the Scorpio gave me the stare, followed me as I left to go to the ladies room and said, his voice slightly cracking, “You have very pretty hair, are you seeing anyone?” - he said this to a Leo! I know this sounds too perfect and so unreal but it is the honest truth!

A lot of women have mentioned Scorpios in their posts. I consider them my “specialty” (lol)because Scorpio men have featured so prominently in my life, either as friends, lovers and even mentors. [note: I’m not sure why, although I have Moon conjunct Pluto, my ascendent ruler is in Scorpio conjunct my MC and in Placidus my Pluto is in the 8th. Okay, now I know. My Scorpio friend, who is also into astrology, claims that this (Pl. in 8th)is probably why he likes me - that
and he finds Leos to be “very genuine”]

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a Scorpio man needs to know he can trust you

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- I don’t know about that pertaining to attraction and making a move. What Scorpio trusts most of all is - their instinct. They will play the game, once they have you and you are theirs to play with. If you aren’t “theirs” then it is just fun to them, they like to see women all worked up and choked up over them. So they invade your personal space and make you feel a little uncomfortable. My ex-mentor/idol/professor, a Scorpio, was married but he knew that I was totally attracted to him so he would corner me, lean in really close to talk to me, speak lowly and softly, not because he wanted me, but because it was fun to make me squirm. I could barely speak when he did that. My best Scorpio guy friend (same one mentioned above) said “he loves that you get that way around him, he does it on purpose”. If he wanted me, he would have said it. My best Scorpio guy friend, and other not-best Scorpio friends, would ask a hostess for her number, ask out his co-worker. They are not shy when it comes to romance. Other guys of any sign might get a little shy but even then, you’ll know that a shy guy is coming on to you because he’ll shyly ask for your number.

Other things I have learned from the guys: If a guy is seeing more than one woman then he’s not really interested in any of them. If he breaks dates, he’s not interested and/or he’s seeing another girl. He’s never too busy at work, if he says that he’s not interested. These are just basic things I am sure everyone knows but...sometimes we need a refresher!

High school was way different. There was not only the possibility of being humiliated by the girl and being hurt, but high schoolers gossiped and the embarrassment would be spread and not forgotten. Making a move on someone “out of your league” was not worth it. Now, men are aware that they are men. They are successful and they know that they have the upper hand when it comes to dating. If you aren’t interested in them there are millions of other beautiful/hot/smart women out there without dates. In other words, THEY HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.

I think we should start acting this way as well. If he’s not interested then life goes on. When you meet the right guy, you’ll just know. That is what 95% of the married people I know say and what I have observed.

posted July 09, 2009 05:56 PM         

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I think we should start acting this way as well. If he’s not interested then life goes on. When you meet the right guy, you’ll just know.

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posted July 09, 2009 06:13 PM         

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Ahhhh, Downtomars, that was one of the sanest things I've read in a while. Thank you

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Indeed. Well said Downtomars. 5 Stars!!!

Can I add my two cents.

The Moon and Venus are attractive, passive planets, most comfortable attracting things to them. The Sun and Mars are the active initiative planets, going after what they want is their thing.

Traditionally the male is a mars figure, brave and courageous, he does and is expected to go after want he wants. The Female is the Venus figure, attractive and passive, she draws things to her with charm and grace.

Society has changed, but his dynamic has not.

Oops, gotta run finish later.

posted July 09, 2009 08:10 PM         

I had met a Taurus man who I learned was a Scorpio Moon and had a Venus in Aries. He practically jumped on me the second he met me and literally told me later that he felt in some strange way I was perfect for him (it was kind of creepy but also intriguing how convinced he sounded) ...I found it funny because of my Aries Moon and Scorpio Venus... both my Moon and my Venus were sitting RIGHT ON his Moon and Venus, in perfect conjunctions lol
And that my Mars in Taurus and Taurus rising conjunct his Sun closely didn't hurt either, I can assure you

posted July 09, 2009 08:10 PM         

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High school was way different. There was not only the possibility of being humiliated by the girl and being hurt, but high schoolers gossiped and the embarrassment would be spread and not forgotten. Making a move on someone “out of your league” was not worth it.

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Agreed, although I do think there are adult men who assume that an "out of their league" woman is seriously never going to go for them, and so it's better not to try...I know some men who think this about certain women. AND, I believe they're usually right...those women would reject them, just like I turned down lots of guys in high school.

It's been a long time since this thread, but I have come to a couple of clear realizations about this topic:

1) Initially, before we are lovers or in a relationship, I don't really care if some guy is That Into Me or not...what matters at that stage is whether I'M really Into Him.

2) If I'm really Into Him, and he is straight/single, I want to be alluring, powerful, magnetic, and seductive enough to attract him, and if he's already attracted, for him to be unable to resist making a move on me.

posted July 10, 2009 06:24 AM         

New Virgo, moon in capricorn : We've known each other for a year, we work together. He always used to hit on me, butnot in a creepy way. Then I became single and texted him a compliment, then we started talking A LOT. Then he would send me good morning messages to wake up to and told me he couldn't wait for me to be "his", we'd go out every single night for three weeks.
And so I was his, and then we had sex. My second, and as naive as I am, I trust him instinctively.

posted July 10, 2009 08:16 AM         

Distancing after sex is never a good sign. What are his Venus and Mars signs, do you know? I hope he is not one of those guys who gets all riled up and randy during the chase and then bored once he's captured his prize. That's almost a week of limited/no contact after the climax of your intimacy.

I'm a Virgo--we are NOT cold and aloof. I hate when people think that! Still waters run deep, that's all. One thing I always loved about Linda Goodman is that she gave us Virgos credit where credit was due--she understood that there was some hotness and fire raging under all that supposed organization and perfection {rolling eyes}. I doubt his distancing is stemming from aloofness--there's something else going on. Have you looked at synastry?