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Topic: He's Just Not that Into You
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Lara
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From: aspideronmars
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 18, 2009 09:11 PM
 
Lady,When l want your opinion i'll definitely ask for it, ok?
This is not about me!!! I have a wonderful life full of great friends and gentlemen. I am not in denial of anything to do with romance, love or knowing what i want LOL hahaha now i'm laughing my sexy a$$ off! Where on earth did the content of your post even come from? What game? I am making these relationships revolve around sex? huh?
I totally draw now what i want... do you?
Are you just ****** that l said women are "vessels?" LOL
walls? now may i suggest that you look at how well you know me before you insult my emotional intelligence. I post on here in good faith and you just turn it into a jousting contest!
My walls are old, crumbling and very very low thank you! IP: Logged |
Lara
Knowflake Posts: 1056
From: aspideronmars
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 18, 2009 09:14 PM
Have a nice smoke Kick it  IP: Logged |
Betelgeuse
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posted April 18, 2009 09:15 PM
Some men give you their best before the first act of sex is shared. The pre-sexual-tension fuels their charm and gives them something to aim for. Why do you think men fall alseep after sex and women want to cuddle? For women, sex is connecting the souls, for men (not all) sex is releasing the soul.You can really know whether a man is worth anything after sex. His charm may not burn as brightly, but he will show he cares. Its often in finding others weaknesses and exposing our own weaknesses to others that we can truly connect and love. Purposely delaying having sex due to ethical reasons is just a way of prolonging the illusion of perfection. IP: Logged |
LadyNeptune
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posted April 18, 2009 09:16 PM
Well, posting on a public message board IS asking for my opinion. By the contents of your post, you just confirmed I am right, because I obviously hit a nerve, since you basically cursed me out.
I am not mad about your "vessel" comment, I actually feel sorry for you for thinking that way. You obviously don't value yourself as anything other than a sexual object otherwise you wouldn't have to use it as a weapon.
I was only trying to help you avoid what is coming your way, but I will not warn you of anything anymore.
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Kick It
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posted April 18, 2009 09:17 PM
Its a little dark in here now.
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Kick It
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posted April 18, 2009 09:19 PM
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Lara
Knowflake Posts: 1056
From: aspideronmars
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 18, 2009 09:27 PM
you didn't hit a nerve, you were damn cheeky and absolutely trying to make yourself look better than me! So, don't use that "i obviously hit a nerve" ******** line on me missy. I am NOT asking for your opinion, you are giving it away like sex! haha VESSEL as in a receptive. Do you know anything about psychology? I don't mean that i'm a container come and fill me up!! Dear me woman! It says a lot that you chose to see it that way though, don't you think?
I don't use sex as a weapon, l use it as a the deepest form of intimacy so back to the drawing board for you and your inaccurate lines! help me? LOL Have i asked for unsolicited help? LOL
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Nothing but GOOD, GREAT things are coming my way, they are already and they will continue. I'm way above all this sh1t you are spouting anyway and l don't fall for those manipulative lines.
I am grateful for you not warning me cos l don't wanna hear from anyone who isn't into freedom of adult speech nor POSITIVITY.
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Lucia23
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posted April 18, 2009 09:30 PM
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Y'know the old addage, if someone loves you they'll set you free? Well I think that if a guy loves you, he is willing to hold off from having sex with you.
Yes, and also, if he loves you and you are sexually attracted to him and eager to have sex, he won't put you into some gross sexist category and reject you afterwards. You can both just enjoy it. I've been really lucky so far. With some guys, I had sex right away (before we were really in a relationship), and with others, I held off a long time for various reasons...and no one has ever lost interest after the sex. If anything, I've found most men GAIN interest after the sex. That's when they get all mushy/attached and sometimes I get less intrigued by them, or sometimes the relationship deepens. My problem is that right now, apparently some men I WANT sex with don't want it with me. And I'm trying to send out my 8th house vibes, so all these men I don't even want to know want sex with me. cheshirekat, I have lots of Leo guy friends, but all the guys I've fallen for have been Libras (2 longest relationships...I think this is because of Moon-Saturn-Venus in 7th), Geminis (don't know why), one Aries, and Scorpios (my Sun in 8th.) Never an attraction to other signs. IP: Logged |
Lara
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From: aspideronmars
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 18, 2009 09:31 PM
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Y'know the old addage, if someone loves you they'll set you free? Well I think that if a guy loves you, he is willing to hold off from having sex with you.
RESPECT to this poster cos this is all it's about... RESPECT! IP: Logged |
Betelgeuse
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From: England
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 18, 2009 09:37 PM
I think Linda Goodmans words on love coming before sex are very poetic, they certainly apply to me. I don't have sex until my heart, mind and soul agree that I'm in love.
However, Lindas words wont apply to everyone. Her statement is very absolute, very Aries by nature. There are some people I know who have fallen in love after sex and are still enjoying fruitful relationships. For some, the body isn't seen as a separate entity to the soul or the last barrier to breach before sex is consented to... its seen an extension of the soul that is every bit as important in the pecking list as the mind and heart. If a person does not have clarity of mind or strength of heart to 'know' they are in love, then often the confusion is washed away by the bodies words. The body doesnt always follow the mind, it can happen vice versa.
'Sex without love' is something entirely different. Its purely the gratification of the senses with no welcome matt at the front door for love. IP: Logged |
Betelgeuse
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 18, 2009 09:41 PM
Lucia, you know what will happen!? Your desire will eventually cool for the guys you DO want sex with, and then you will find they are crazy for you! Such is lifeIP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted April 18, 2009 09:48 PM
Lara: what about in gay, lesbian, transexual, intersex, and transgender relationships?I think power struggles and other, similar relationship dynamics are not about biology. If anything, astrology accounts for them better than biological determinism! Let's say you've got an 8th house Leo Sun person (Cancer Moon and Venus) and an 11th house Libra Sun (Gemini Moon, Leo Venus.) Different things will allure them and turn them off! My ex (11th house Libra) was waaay more into me and loved/wanted me much more because I had sex when I physically felt like it, rather than trying to "hook" him by not putting out. To him, that would've felt like a power game on my part and turned him waaaayyy off. He got REALLY clingy and couply and romantic AFTER the sex, when he'd been cool and hard-to-get before. He would've also been very patient if I hadn't felt ready for sex early on...he was willing to commit right away, sex or no sex. (I attribute this to our 0 degree Sun-Venus conjunction.) Meanwhile, I (8th house Leo) am kind of turned on sexually by guys who know how to play hard-to-get with me, and how to make it seem like I'm winning a prize if they fall for me. My ex HATES it when women do that, and hates doing it himself. I hate having to do it for a guy, but I like it when a guy does it for me. I don't think it's a simple gender thing. IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted April 18, 2009 09:52 PM
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Lucia, you know what will happen!? Your desire will eventually cool for the guys you DO want sex with, and then you will find they are crazy for you! Such is life
Betelgeuse, this is what happened when I was younger!! I miss all the OPTIONS I had then...there were always lots of guys hanging around who were hot and funny and witty and intense and thoughtful and sweet. Now it's like, one guy like that, who is Not Into Me, and twenty guys who are sleazy and icky and old and unwell. IP: Logged |
Lara
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From: aspideronmars
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 18, 2009 09:52 PM
Lucia, i have no idea i'm afraid. I can only speak from personal experience, observation and psychology of people and relationships.  I would say though that it's different because the male/female 'natural' roles don't apply. IP: Logged |
Betelgeuse
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 18, 2009 09:58 PM
Lucia, its happened to me too And I've observed it with countless friends. Its like our desires fill another persons unconscious space with 'us', they always feel us there. When we withdraw, the absence of our desire creates an opportunity for them to approach. They no longer feel us in their space, and its crazy how we always want what we know we dont have If only withdrawing our desire from someones space was as easily done as spoken about! Usually we just have to wait for 'time' to do it for us. IP: Logged |
LadyNeptune
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posted April 18, 2009 09:59 PM
I actually was trying to help you, but see it however you want to. I am giving it away like sex? Here you go again, being so focused on sex and giving it away, or not. You have issues with this. I don't. If I were giving it away, I wouldn't feel bad about it. I'm not in denial and repressed like you are. Do you know anything about psychology? Because the way you focus on sex and using it or witholding it the way you do is something that is very psychologically telling. Again, I am not mad about the vessel thing. I'm not mad about anything. I enjoy a good verbal spar. I get off on it. I have a lot of air and fire. This is mental gymnastics for me. You can also reverse that saying and make it: A woman devours a man and he should be prepared for that, because she swallows him up inside of her. 
No, I guess you haven't asked for help, but you will...only now it will probably be under an alias.
Isn't pluto about to square your planets and conjunct your venus? Isn't pluto transiting your 5th house with tsaturn in your 8th? Maybe that isn't your chart, but it doesn't matter, because I know if you don't get in touch with your enrgies you'll be very upset. If it IS, then astrology confirms my suspicions. Good luck to you. Ciao bella.
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LadyNeptune
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posted April 18, 2009 10:03 PM
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Yes, and also, if he loves you and you are sexually attracted to him and eager to have sex, he won't put you into some gross sexist category and reject you afterwards. You can both just enjoy it.
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Lucia23
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posted April 18, 2009 10:08 PM
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If only withdrawing our desire from someones space was as easily done as spoken about!
See, I used to be really skilled at this when I was younger! I did it in a Leo way, by always having lots of great guys around waiting in the wings. Now the guys around are not guys I want around! And also, I do think that things feel more Serious to adult men than to teenage boys. I meet many men who seem to be looking to fill a void/get married/ "make a life", and fewer who are into the joy of living in the moment. Lady Neptune, I see what you're saying about sex. To me, it's not something you "give away"--that's very 1800s. It's an experience/adventure/pleasure that two people happily share. If some creepy guy sees a woman as degraded or less attractive if she's sexual with him, that just means he's a creepy guy. IP: Logged |
Kick It
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posted April 18, 2009 10:09 PM
I had the strangest walk to the horses and wondering what the hell that was about.IP: Logged |
Lara
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From: aspideronmars
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 18, 2009 10:12 PM
No to all of the above Lady.!You really are quite venomous which is such a contrast to your name.
I am not in denial, nor repressed. l don't focus on SEX. This thread is mostly about sex!!! lol
I don't withhold anything!
My only issue is your attitude which sucks!
I have no squares to pluto at all in transits and anyway how does that relate to this thread?
I am SO intouch with my energies. I am more intouch than half the planet!!!! You are so up uranus it's unreal! I'm not your bella and l don't need any of your wonderfully tainted luck, thanks anyway. IP: Logged |
LadyNeptune
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posted April 18, 2009 10:15 PM
Lucia, quote:
Lady Neptune, I see what you're saying about sex. To me, it's not something you "give away"--that's very 1800s. It's an experience/adventure/pleasure that two people happily share. If some creepy guy sees a woman as degraded or less attractive if she's sexual with him, that just means he's a creepy guy.
Exactly! You don't need to play games if the guy is worth it. It is very 1800's. "I have to give him my flower..." lol. This is 2010. And it's ok if someone feels that way, but I don't and I never will. I do think it should be special, but I am not giving away anything anymore than he is.
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Lara
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From: aspideronmars
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 18, 2009 10:18 PM
in what way Kick?
Did you get your paper?IP: Logged |
MoonWitch
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posted April 18, 2009 10:20 PM
Interesting and timely thread for me at the moment. I haven't read all the posts yet but I wanted to respond. I've been with my Scorpio for a little over two years now. We don't even live together yet but I am at his place about half the time and if we aren't together then we are online talking on messenger. We have plans of moving in together and are throwing around ideas but nothing concrete yet. So all the time from people - even people at work that hardly know me - I have people asking when we are going to move in together? When is he going to ask me to marry him? Is he a commitment phobe? If he loved you he'd want ask you to marry him and do everything now. Well.. okay. I'm an Aries and I'm sort of impatient and I want to live with him NOW. But in the mean time, he's better to me than any man I've ever been with. He's sweet, considerate, loves me, etc. So it's hard to deal with how he makes me feel - which is lovely - and with how society says he's supposed to act and what he's supposed to do. So I go from being perfectly confident about things one day to wondering if I should be more concerned the next. "Mommy" message boards are the worst at this and putting men into boxes for some reason. My Scorpio has good reasons for everything but some women see them just as 'excuses'. So.. I don't know. IP: Logged |
Kick It
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posted April 18, 2009 10:22 PM
No, paper is a bit away.I was expecting something, but didnt get what I thought I would. Just a little unhappy with that. The question I need to ask, is what did I learn from this? IP: Logged |
LadyNeptune
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posted April 18, 2009 10:22 PM
Well then you posted the wrong person in your other thread. The only one person with the same chart in both synastries posted has a bunch of aries planets which will be squared by pluto in cap.I don't like your attitude. You "advise all your friends on men," and "women don't know anything about men." "Your sexy ass," etc... You're so high on yourself. It's a huge turn off how conceited you are. No one probably wants to sleep with you. They probably don't even try, which is why you are so successful at witholding it.
Haha. Yeah, I really dislike you. I'd love to see our synastry so I could get an astrological take on why.
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