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Topic: He's Just Not that Into You
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Azalaksh
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From: New Brighton, MN, USA
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posted April 18, 2009 10:23 PM
 
Lara, luv ~ quote:
VESSEL as in a receptive. Do you know anything about psychology? I don't mean that i'm a container come and fill me up!! Dear me woman!
And didn’t you say back on Page 1: quote:
What should happen: man meets WORTHY woman, asks for number/whatever and they part. If that man likes you he will find you... hunt you, chase you, maim you [?!?!?], date you, woo you and drag you into his cave a few months down the line against your will. Man has the upper hand and the woman becomes submissive to him... She allows him to literally feast on his prey.
I dunno, those two statements just seem kinda contradictory to me….. and btw, there are some of us whom men can never “implant” anything in (hysterectomy due to fibroids and a possibly malignant cyst, in my case) 
And I prefer not to be dragged into any caves, thankyouverymuch 
I will not last long in a relationship where Man Must Have The Upper Hand – and I don’t find merit in the postulate that this is biologically ordained…..Lady Neptune~  IP: Logged |
LadyNeptune
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posted April 18, 2009 10:28 PM
Azalakash:I was going to write about that, but then I erased it. I was also going to point out how "receptacles" is often meant to mean trash can, and all the freudian stuff involved in that slip, but didn't. I also saw the cave thing. Against her will.... Feast on his prey...? Um, no. IP: Logged |
Lara
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From: aspideronmars
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posted April 18, 2009 10:29 PM
Damn there are some biatches on this site! zzzz dear me... Zala, forgive me but now you are confusing psychologies
Lady - PLUTO doesn't square anything till 2016 LOL
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LadyNeptune
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posted April 18, 2009 10:32 PM
Oh, look in the mirror. You got bitchy first. I just finally bitched back. I can't help it - I'm just a vessel, I mean receptacle, I mean receptive...what am I again...? IP: Logged |
LadyNeptune
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posted April 18, 2009 10:32 PM
But it is in your 5th house and saturn is in your 8th. And those pluto squares can start being felt pretty far away in orb. You may also have an eclipse in July that will also oppose all your aries planets, so start doing the work before it happens so you aren't blindsided. I think the eclipse is 15 cancer, which is opposite your aries stuff. I shouldn't even tell you all this because you'll just yell at me, but I can't have someone go into a pluto transit unarmed and unaware. That's what happened to me. IP: Logged |
MoonWitch
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posted April 18, 2009 10:33 PM
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Azalaksh
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posted April 18, 2009 10:35 PM
Lara ~Then what *did* you mean about the container/vessel analogy??
"Receptive" how??
(please forgive me for not being a psychology major like you)
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Lucia23
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posted April 18, 2009 10:35 PM
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If he loved you he'd want ask you to marry him and do everything now.
Well, I've loved someone with every fiber of my girlie being, and I didn't want to marry him! Each relationship is different, and what matters is how--to use your wonderful word MoonWitch--LOVELY it makes YOU feel. I'm so glad that when I was younger I just let all this stuff happen naturally without having to worry about Signs that some guy liked me...I wish it was still that way! I think maybe I'm just going through a transitional rough patch maybe, and when I'm more accustomed to being single I'll feel like myself again. Re: this thread. I'm loving the discussion, and I agree with the anti-sexist stuff and with the idea that women are receptive, men active as societal sexism rather than a "natural", biological truth---but HEY, can we stop with the personal attacks please?!!!!! I like hearing everyone's different experiences and perspectives...it helps me think this out. Lara, I may disagree with some of your thoughts on male and female roles, but it sounds like you've got your pick of hot guys you mutually like and are attracted to, which is what I want right now--so I will be carefully reading and thinking about all of your comments! And everyone else's, too. IP: Logged |
CarbonUnit
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From: Austin, Tx, USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 18, 2009 10:39 PM
I'm one to wait and know a man's intentions before having sex. It's my Venus in Scorpio because there has to be a real emotional connection before I could even go there. It takes time to get to know the other person no matter how attracted you are to them. And it takes longer for a man to become emotionally attached to a certain woman since most of the time they are not in touch with their emotional side. It helps weed out all the ones just looking for sex and using you as a sex toy (via pseudo relationship) till the lust fades away (about 3 to 6 months). It saves a lot of heart ache wasted time.Men see sex differently than women. A man's penis is outside his body so after sex he has let go and had a release. He's done. This is why men can have sex with any woman without any emotional attachment. A woman's vagina is inside her body and sex is an emotional and spiritual act usually equated to love since we bare children and seek security. Men like variety. They are like spiders trying to catch as many women into their web. This is instinctual. IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted April 18, 2009 10:40 PM
Lady.I have NO saturn in my 8th so STOP trying to analyse me.
It won't work!!! BTW i was never bitchy - i'm not a bitchy cow.
I never called YOU a vessel blah blah, l was talking about a COLLECTIVE. zzzz IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted April 18, 2009 10:40 PM
It's funny, since being single again I've started a few threads like this on internet forums (because I am starting threads on internet forums instead of eating pizza and making out with some gorgeous guy!!!), and every time, some sort of battle erupts.IP: Logged |
Azalaksh
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posted April 18, 2009 10:42 PM
Lady Neptune ~Lara has posted her chart several dozen times here -- try this thread (she's the Taurus so she can't have Venus in Cap):
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/001544.html IP: Logged |
Lara
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From: aspideronmars
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 18, 2009 10:43 PM
Sorry Lucia.  For some benign reason a few people on here become defensive about my posts and become all bitchy which is really quite unattractive! IP: Logged |
Azalaksh
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posted April 18, 2009 10:45 PM
imho, simple Debate and Disagreement is being misinterpreted as Defensiveness, B!tchiness and Attacks.....IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted April 18, 2009 10:46 PM
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It helps weed out all the ones just looking for sex and using you as a sex toy (via pseudo relationship) till the lust fades away (about 3 to 6 months).
Then, why do I have this gorgeous guy hanging around and NOT having sex with me?! See, I think it's more about the power struggle. The people I don't want sex with want me, because it would be a conquest. This guy doesn't want me, because I want him, so NOT having me is a conquest. Even though he probably wants me, otherwise why the f*** would he be around trying to make sure I want him? it's just that he's another f---ing Scorpio...I just need to find a man that magnificent who is a nice Saggie or Aries! IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted April 18, 2009 10:46 PM
CARBON - you said it!TOTALLY agree IP: Logged |
MoonWitch
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posted April 18, 2009 10:47 PM
Thank you, Lucia! I appreciate your response. Yes, he makes me feel lovely and cared for and he's fantastic in every way except his 'pace'. ha! If I weren't 37 years old then I wouldn't be as concerned about that, I guess. I don't want to end up being around 45 and newly married to him and find out we can't have the child we have talked about and do want someday. It's frustrating, as an Aries, to live by everyone else's slow timeline!!!!!!! Plus - he's a Scorpio and he has to have things his waaaaaaaaaaaaaay. IP: Logged |
LadyNeptune
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posted April 18, 2009 10:49 PM
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Men see sex differently than women. A man's penis is outside his body so after sex he has let go and had a release. He's done. This is why men can have sex with any woman without any emotional attachment. A woman's vagina is inside her body and sex is an emotional and spiritual act usually equated to love since we bare children and seek security. Men like variety. They are like spiders trying to catch as many women into their web. This is instinctual.
No offense, but this is just false. A long time ago, women were very sexual, but men put an end to that. There's also biological evidence that women have sex just for sex sake. Women are actually wired for sex not connected to procreation. Men actually aren't. Once they release their sperm (to procreate) they can't have sex again for at least an hour. Women can keep going AND can have multiple orgasms that serve no procreative function. I'm actually reading a book on this (when I'm not arguing with Lara ). If anyone is interested, I'll go into further detail. But the long and short of it is that this biology BS that men are supposed to have multiple sex partners and women aren't is, well, BS.
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MoonPixie
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posted April 18, 2009 10:49 PM
This thread is waaay better than the Maury Povich Show!*sits down / munches on popcorn / sips from diet coke* IP: Logged |
MoonWitch
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posted April 18, 2009 10:49 PM
OH and also frustrating for people at work to say things like "WHAT? You just turned 37? Didn't you say you want another kid? Geez better get on that because you shouldn't be doing that after 35."*groan* IP: Logged |
Lara
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From: aspideronmars
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 18, 2009 10:50 PM
Zala,
If you RE-READ the thread ZALA, you will see quite clearly that you Lady Neptune did in fact become personal with me and that is beyond the boundaries of discussion and disagreement!LOL
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Lara
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posted April 18, 2009 10:52 PM
LMAO Moon Pixie!
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MoonWitch
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posted April 18, 2009 10:52 PM
As for sexual women... wow - I love sex. The stereotyping of women's sexuality in this thread is a little disturbing.I hate the idea of a single woman being looked down upon for a one night stand or having sex because it feels good. It doesn't have to always mean she's damaged or has low self-esteem. IP: Logged |
LadyNeptune
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posted April 18, 2009 10:58 PM
Thanks for the link. Her mars falls into my 1st house. So that is why I am acting so aggressive, and her planets all fall into my 12th! I love astrology sometimes. It makes things so clear.If that venus is near 15 degrees cap it will be opposed by the eclipse. quote:
imho, simple Debate and Disagreement is being misinterpreted as Defensiveness, B!tchiness and Attacks.....
I agree. I waited awhile and was yelled at a few times before I got mean. I'm done with it now.
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LadyNeptune
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posted April 18, 2009 10:59 PM
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As for sexual women... wow - I love sex. The stereotyping of women's sexuality in this thread is a little disturbing.
I hate the idea of a single woman being looked down upon for a one night stand or having sex because it feels good. It doesn't have to always mean she's damaged or has low self-esteem
I know, it's very disturbing.
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