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LadyNeptune
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posted April 18, 2009 11:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message
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Lady.
I have NO saturn in my 8th

It looks like your 8th house is virgo from that chart. If so, transiting saturn is in your 8th house....

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Kick It
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Once they release their sperm (to procreate) they can't have sex again for at least an hour.

What Men are you dating?
Despite smoking plenty of weed...could do with some now too....it may dribble, but its like a morning bus service into town.

An hour? HA!
I can earn money that way, yes? If they pay per cup I can get a better hourly rate than working.

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Glaucus
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posted April 18, 2009 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
no offense

I think a lot of women are far more sexual than I am,and I am a man.

I don't fit the stereotypes of males.

I am a male with strong "female traits"

I am very in touch with my emotions,feelings,and overall "feminine side".

after all, My Sun,Mercury,and Venus are in Scorpio and my Moon is in Pisces.....signs that are water and feminine. My Ascendant is in Virgo. So all my big 3 are in feminine signs.


I also have Sun trine Moon with 2'10 orb (in Right Ascension, 1'22 orb)

Even my Sun is conjunct retrograde true Black Moon Lilith (osculating lunar apogee) with only 21 minutes of arc.

so my Sun not only aspects the Moon,but it also aspects the Moon's apogee, and squares the Moon's Nodes too.


I do have high estrogen levels.

I even have very feminine finger ratio (my index finger is longer than my ring finger on both hands)


I wish women would stop generalizing about men.

Not all men are alike.

My exgf,Meghann and I aren't together because of her man-hating feminist mother who thinks that all men are alike and can't be trusted based on Meghann's father hurting her. I don't fit her view of men at all. I am far from the typical male because of both my high estrogen levels and my neurodivergence.


I wish both men and women would stop generalizing about genders.


Some women even think moodiness,irritability is something that males can't relate to because they don't know about irritable male syndrome connection to drops,fluctuation of testosterone which used to be used as antidepressant for males.


also, high sensitivity is a trait that is evenly spread among both genders. I learned about that from Elaine Aron who wrote the books,THE HIGHLY SENSITIVE PERSON,THE HIGHLY SENSITIVE PERSON WORKBOOK,THE HIGHLY SENSITIVE PERSON IN LOVE,THE HIGHLY SENSITIVE CHILD.

Raymond

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LadyNeptune
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posted April 18, 2009 11:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message
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I wish both men and women would stop generalizing about genders.

Me too, Glaucus. It's so anti-human.


Kick it, I should've said "most men."

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MoonWitch
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posted April 18, 2009 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message
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Once they release their sperm (to procreate) they can't have sex again for at least an hour.
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What Men are you dating?


haha! I was going to say the same thing. I've *often* made men orgasm two times in less than an hour.

My Scoprio can have an orgasm but we'll continue and he ends up orgasming again around 20 minutes later. It's excellent >

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LadyNeptune
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posted April 18, 2009 11:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Awesome for you moonwitch! You're one lucky girl!

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cheshirekat
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posted April 18, 2009 11:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I kind of feel for effeminate guys. My Pisces guy friend is very manly on the outside, very tall, dark blone/blue eyes and stacked. He is intellectual and atheletic but when it comes to snagging his heart strings..he turns into a complete RAGING FEMALE lol XD.

He calls me up just to freak out about the girl he as a crush on.."Does she like me OMFG *panic*" and I am the one to calm him down.

As a very adrogynous and detached female, I was always the one to initiate everything because the guys I was semi-interested in were these shy stuttering effeminate guys but they were all very sweet and loving and I still feel like shat for using them as cover for my conflicting sexuality(actually they were all reduced to tears because of me at one point in time..I was a complete arse >__<; ). I think because I had to have the balls in the relationship was comforting for me because it was what I was use to. Predominately strong career driven females and effiminate male roles.

We can't just rule out that some guys are effiminate, it doesn't make them weak or for the latter that it's manipulative ploy. Some men are just effiminate and others are aggressive. Almost like some girls are fiesty and go-getters while other girls are cool collective types.

Also times have really changed, were living in a world were 10 year olds are passionately indulging themselves XD lol.

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MoonWitch
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posted April 18, 2009 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message
well - yes I am. I also had NO IDEA I could have multiple orgasms until I met him, too.

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Kick It
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posted April 18, 2009 11:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message
20 mins? Still, what type of Men you dating?

Maybe there is something wrong with me.
I know, I will tell the next one it is normally an hour...its just that she turns me on so much.

That will work.

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LadyNeptune
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posted April 18, 2009 11:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Don't let him go then!


Does he have a brother? LOL

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Lucia23
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posted April 18, 2009 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
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I hate the idea of a single woman being looked down upon for a one night stand or having sex because it feels good. It doesn't have to always mean she's damaged or has low self-esteem.

Also, women don't always get emotionally attached after the sex...and sometimes men do get emotionally attached afterwards. The shape of someone's genitals has little to do with it...although social norms stemming from a deeply sexist society do.

This is why I like to consider gay/lesbian/intersex/transgender people and relationships too in discussions like this.

I really think it's more about individual personality. My Pisces/Gemini Venus female aquaintence falls madly in love with every guy she sleeps with--for about two days, till she meets the next one. For me (Leo/Cancer), sex makes me more emotional overall, but doesn't change my feelings for the person--if I was attracted and cared for someone as a friend but not "in love", I still feel attracted but not "in love" after the sex. My Aquarius/Leo Moon gay male friend gets confused after casual sex and feels "in love"...my Scorpio/Sag moon straight male friend gets bored after the sex and moves on ASAP to a new lover (but he swears to me it depends on the person, and that if he was with the right person he would stay interested)...my Libra lesbian friend, now in a longterm relationship, used to lose interest after making a "conquest"--now her relatoinship has long celibate periods.

I think that penis outside/vagina inside thing is really strange, and does not bear out anecdotally.

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posted April 18, 2009 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
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biology BS that men are supposed to have multiple sex partners and women aren't is, well, BS.

With the greatest of respect, here's a bit more biology back. A woman has one egg per month, men have millions of sperm. A woman holds the key to her reproductive system and men are willing to pick that lock in order to impregnate. Women's eggs are expensive, they want the best partner and thus will be very selective as to who they want. That is not to say that women will not sleep with multiiple men. Men want to have as many children as possible to compete with other men who sleep with as many women as possible. It's the race of the selfish gene. This is one of the underlying factors to life. I've had this argument with others here on this site about this but this is all fact. Maybe what Lara has said might not have been the most elegant way of saying but her argument does have a point and follows more or less the one I put up just above.

EDIT - that is also not to say that men will sleep with multiple partners.

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MoonWitch
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posted April 18, 2009 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message
Lady, he does have a brother but his brother is married. d'oh!

It's funny, so many people ask me that when I talk about my boyfriend.

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LadyNeptune
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posted April 18, 2009 11:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message
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Also, women don't always get emotionally attached after the sex...and sometimes men do get emotionally attached afterwards. The shape of someone's genitals has little to do with it...although social norms stemming from a deeply sexist society do.

This is why I like to consider gay/lesbian/intersex/transgender people and relationships too in discussions like this.

I really think it's more about individual personality. My Pisces/Gemini Venus female aquaintence falls madly in love with every guy she sleeps with--for about two days, till she meets the next one. For me (Leo/Cancer), sex makes me more emotional overall, but doesn't change my feelings for the person--if I was attracted and cared for someone as a friend but not "in love", I still feel attracted but not "in love" after the sex. My Aquarius/Leo Moon gay male friend gets confused after casual sex and feels "in love"...my Scorpio/Sag moon straight male friend gets bored after the sex and moves on ASAP to a new lover (but he swears to me it depends on the person, and that if he was with the right person he would stay interested)...my Libra lesbian friend, now in a longterm relationship, used to lose interest after making a "conquest"--now her relatoinship has long celibate periods.

I think that penis outside/vagina inside thing is really strange, and does not bear out anecdotally.


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posted April 18, 2009 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
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I hate the idea of a single woman being looked down upon for a one night stand or having sex because it feels good. It doesn't have to always mean she's damaged or has low self-esteem.

Well no, it's not wrong to have a one night stand. However, there is a reason why sex is pleasurable ..... and it is because it entices parties to procreation...

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posted April 18, 2009 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, females want the best sperm for their egg and have to be selective to an extent. But even in the animal world their are plenty of species that will mate with multiple partners because the best sperm will be the sperm that reaches the egg first anyway -=

And for most animals sex ISN'T pleasureable for the female at all.

Female humans are lucky that way and I tend to think it's for more than just a procreation reason.

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posted April 18, 2009 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Yes you are right Moonwitch, that's another reproductive stategy commonly used in the animal world.

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MoonWitch
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posted April 18, 2009 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message
I'm awfully happy there are people posting online tonight

I needed a little conversation.

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LadyNeptune
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posted April 18, 2009 11:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message
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With the greatest of respect, here's a bit more biology back. A woman has one egg per month, men have millions of sperm. A woman holds the key to her reproductive system and men are willing to pick that lock in order to impregnate. Women's eggs are expensive, they want the best partner and thus will be very selective as to who they want. That is not to say that women will not sleep with multiiple men. Men want to have as many children as possible to compete with other men who sleep with as many women as possible. It's the race of the selfish gene. This is one of the underlying factors to life. I've had this argument with others here on this site about this but this is all fact. Maybe what Lara has said might not have been the most elegant way of saying but her argument does have a point and follows more or less the one I put up just above.

EDIT - that is also not to say that men will sleep with multiple partners.


If she releases only one egg a month, it makes more sense that she should sleep with multiple partners in order to be certain she is impregnated. No?

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posted April 18, 2009 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Yes well sex is used as a form of intimacy and create a sense of hapiness, to hold humans together in the honeymoon period for the duration of birth and rearing. They say in humans the honeymoon period lasts for two years. Thus if we make the presumption that pregnancy occurs on first meeting, baby comes nine months later, which leave 15 months of child rearing between both parents. Then dad in olden days might have left. Baby would have been strong enough to survive with mum only. Of course, human psychology, culture, customs, general concern from dad might then prohibit dad from leaving.

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posted April 18, 2009 11:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Same here MoonWitch!

Back in a bit. Maybe.

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LadyNeptune
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posted April 18, 2009 11:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Moonwitch, I can see why...

23 - I don't know. Women are totally geared for sexual pleasure. More so than men and not even in relation to procreation.

Multiple orgasms do not serve procreation.And the more a man ejaculates the weaker and less plentiful his sperm are.

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posted April 18, 2009 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Sex is not just procreative--there are all kinds of sex and touch.

In my experience, it's not just effeminate men who get all hyper-attached after sex...sometimes it's really MACHO guys, who were cool and detached and macho before the sex, and then they turn into these weepy lovestruck puppies.

And it's not just androgynous women who go cold sometimes after the sex...that Pisces/Gem Venus lady I mentioned earlier is as girlish and feminine as they come.

AGAIN: anyone turning to biology here, please consider gay/lesbian/intersex/transgender people too...there is enormous debate over how biological sex is designated, let alone gender stereotypes, which are purely social and based on a history of slavery, like racist stereotypes.

But also, for me, if I just look at the real human beings I know on a case by case basis, those gender stereotypes are just WRONG. (Whereas astrological stereotypes--even dumb sun sign ones--are RIGHT, just in my experience.)

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posted April 18, 2009 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Lady Neptune - well multiple partner sexual practices as mentioned above is one strategy, then you leave to the case of the survival of the fittest sperm, who can swim the fastest. Problem is then that mother is left with a child whose father might not be known, in that way it might be a risky strategy. With mother who is impregnated by a stable partner (and we assume she does not have sex with others during this time), she can hold the father accountable (or at least have some chance).

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LadyNeptune
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posted April 18, 2009 11:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Lucia,

I agree. The biology stuff is pretty negative and conveniently fits mens stereotypes and most scientists who came up with this theory were men.

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