posted May 06, 2009 03:57 AM            

One thing you need to know about exact is:
Not just talking your Venus to your Mercury, I mean the whole thing.

If Venus-Mercury is applying (moving towards it in degree) by 5 degrees, that is not exact. But if Mercury-Venus is seperating (moving away from it in degrees) by 5 degrees, that is exact.

Why?

You are looking at 2 planets and the relationship to each other. 2 involved.

Think of it on a scale with minus whatever to plus whatever. Add the two aspects up, if they equal zero, it is an exact aspect.

So, using your natal, you can have your Mercury applying to Venus 10 degrees, and Venus seperating from Mercury 10 degrees.

Applying by 10 degrees = +10
Seperating by 10 degrees = -10.

(+10) + (-10) = 0 EXACT.

If you can get both exact conjunct without the need for maths, that is fine.

No need for perfection.

posted May 06, 2009 07:59 AM            

hmm, I fear I do not really see the logic in that separating / applying thing.

They are still two different transiting planets. And if Transit Mercury is 10 degree moving towards my Venus and if Transit Venus is 10 degrees moving away from my Mercury, how does that become an exact orb?

Mathematically maybe, but ONLY if you see both planets as some kind of "unit", like they are ONE significator.
In all other cases it still stays a wide separating and applying orb.

posted May 06, 2009 08:51 AM            

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I definitely can see that the 7th and 11th relate to one`s partner, as it would be the 1st and 5th house of a partner (seen in your own natal chart), but why do you think it relates to Twinsouls?

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You just answered your own question, almost!

Why it relates to twinsouls?
I guess twinsouls is normally defined by partner. You look to the birth of your partner and your partner to you because it is hard to find a few matches, which combines in some way to the idea of twinsouls. Or soulmates, whatever you call them.

I guess a soulmate type can be a teacher, a friend, a parent etc. Just switch the houses to the person involved.

posted May 06, 2009 11:18 AM            

So you would say the Twinsoul / soulmate is found in the 7th house?
But what about other, non-soulmate-relationships, those are found in the 7th house, too, or not?

I think I must still be doing something wrong.
I looked that date up for me, and now if I reverse the process and look at that Capricorn`s date, wouldn`t he have the same configuration to my chart, if we shared the same ASCendant?
a little bit confused.

What I mean is: if he had a Sagittarius-ASC like I have, his 7th house ruler would be Mercury and his 11th house ruler would be Venus, too.

Now at the time of my birth (my placements would be his transits), my / Transit Mercury (which rules his DSC) would be conjunct his Venus, his 11th house ruler, and my / Transit VEnus (which rules his 11th house) would be conjunct his Mercury (his DSC ruler).

If that is right - I probably have made some mistake in my thinking there, but if that is right, wouldn`t that mean, that people with the same ASC AND that Double connection between 11th and 5th rulers have a higher chance to be Twinsouls / soulmates?

Or is there a mistake in my thinking and if so, where is it?

BTW I found another date: 8th january 1973.

posted May 06, 2009 12:15 PM            

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If that is right - I probably have made some mistake in my thinking there, but if that is right, wouldn`t that mean, that people with the same ASC AND that Double connection between 11th and 5th rulers have a higher chance to be Twinsouls / soulmates?

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It is right. I am always right. That is something you must know. Know it well.

Yes, same ASCs. In your case, better chance.

For me with Aquarius rising, I look at Jupiter and Sun as 11 and 7.
Conjunctions of Jupiter to Sun happens every 12 years. Which means ages 16, 28, 40 for me, born as a Sun in Virgo at 22 degrees.

Different ASC signs give different options and cycles. For your example, Mercury and Venus conjunct once a year as opposed to my Jupiter which is every 12. What you would need to look for is when they were both conjunct each other planet, but EXACT. To find the best one. The aspects which are closer, but not exact should be good enough.

posted May 06, 2009 01:22 PM            

Unless you contradict me of course. Then I`m right.

"Jupiter to Sun happens every 12 years. Which means ages 16, 28, 40 for me, born as a Sun in Virgo at 22 degrees."
Sorry I don`T know anyone who fits the bill.
I fear you have to do your own search.

"ifferent ASC signs give different options and cycles."
Of course.

" hat you would need to look for is when they were both conjunct each other planet, but EXACT"
Yes, I looked for really exact conjunctions (under 1°), because those conjunctions happen fairly often.

"his describes the birth of a 7th house person. There are more uses of the 7th house than partner."

posted May 06, 2009 01:47 PM            

8th September 1969. Aquarius Rising.

That is what I have found as best so far.

Many looks over older dates. Quite a few more older dates, but nothing turned up.
There is a period in a few years which looks excellent. Many years till legal though, so option 1 is best for me right now.

Option 1 is 8th September 1969. Aquarius Rising.

posted May 06, 2009 01:55 PM            

One thing l do know and that is that in all my 25 years of dating (geez is it that long?!?!) the only person l have a NN/Valentine aspect with, let along so many IS the gun man.

It does feel very different from anything before and it's a really romantic and deep connection.

That's all i know!

posted May 06, 2009 02:25 PM            

I have had the Valentine / NN with some guys, and even though I liked them, they definitely weren`t the soulmate-kind.

posted May 06, 2009 02:28 PM            

you`re Aqua rising, too, like your option 1?
Well, seems same ASC`s really are a good thing.

posted May 06, 2009 02:29 PM            

DD - yeah! Personally, l don't want a complimentary version of me. I've already had that with my son's dad. The Aries sun, Taurus moon guy.

posted May 06, 2009 02:47 PM            

Actually, when all is said and done, I just want to love and be loved. There`s nothing greater than this. And it doesn`t matter what name you give it.

Oh and I mean that kind of love that makes you smile and makes your heart sing and dance, and you wouldn`t even waste a thought about what lesson that could bring.
Just be in the moment and taste life and love to its fullest. Enjoying.
That`s what I really want. That`s all.

posted November 24, 2012 07:09 AM            

Find out from your natal chart when they were born.

Which means your 11th ruler in transit (at the the time of potential twin soul birth) must be conjunct your natal 7th ruler. With your 7th ruler in transit (at the time of your potential twin soul birth) conjunct to your 11th ruler."

posted March 25, 2014 03:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Coffee:
Time for a dose of reality from Doctor Astro!
The chance of finding what people call a "twin flame" is very low. The chances of these couples being with their "twin flame" is also very low. Still a chance though.

How I go about fining one is as follows....was looking today actually.

Find out from your natal chart when they were born.

Which means your 11th ruler in transit (at the the time of potential twin soul birth) must be conjunct your natal 7th ruler. With your 7th ruler in transit (at the time of your potential twin soul birth) conjunct to your 11th ruler.

Why this way?

From your natal and transits for when your potential partner is born, you can check to see in your chart WHEN your partner is born.

I am Aqua rising. Jupiter rules my 11th. Sun rules my 7th.
My 11th is partners 5th. My 7th is partners 1st.
To find a birth of any kind, you look to 5th ruler in aspect to 1st ruler an also 1st in aspect to 5th ruler.
Good aspects are fine, but the conjunction is better. Best one!

If you want to test this idea out, look at when a person important to you was born and it should show up.

You will come up with a few options for that. Or at least you should.

Then.....I do a little more. Even though the above should be enough.

Once I have a few charts that satisfy the above conditions, I look at my 1st and 7th rulers in aspect to her 1st and 7th rulers.
The best will be my 1st conjunct her 7th. Other way round too. My 7th conjunct her 1st too, and other way round.

For a bit extra, check the rest of the houses to see if it matches the house ruler for the other person.

Lots of well aspected options to choose from using the above method, but I go one step too far and look for an actual date. Not a few. It would be nice to try this way, if only for an experiment.

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This unique theory gave an astonishing result for me.
The search for the transits when my 11th ruler conjuncted my 7th ruler and vice versa, resulted in a day when the planets lined up in an interesting way with my chart. It's intense and also a difficult synastry/composite. The supposed twin flame or a soulmate born on that particular day, have their Nodes EXACTLY to the minute reversed to my natal Nodes, ie - their North Node conjunct exactly my South Node and my Sun. Since i have my Nodes on my ASC axis, they also lay their Nodes along my Asc/DSC. South node on my ASC and North Node on my DSC.
Their Pluto conjunct my Venus and Proserpine. Their Sun at 14'Saggy is right on top of my MC and opposites my Moon.
In their chart - my name asteroid conjuncts their Venus exactly.
Their Amor is at 0 degree on my Sun and South Node.
Their Eros is at 0 degree on my ASC.

The Draconic features his Sun conjuncting my Moon and Psyche and my IC.

The Composite has Venus conjunct North Node.
My asteroid name conjuncts tightly the composite Sun and both are exactly squared by Saturn and Chiron. So much pain. From the past.

The day is Dec 6th, 1979