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Izo
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posted August 19, 2010 11:31 PM
 
Interesting. I missed this thread a year ago, thank you for bringing it forward. I have Lucifer in my 1st house, conjunct BML and in an awful configuration. quote:
Asteroid Lucifer sqaures to Nessus or Saturn are found in the charts of Serial Killers.
Yeah, I have that. Lucifer square Saturn and opposition to Nessus. I'll raise you with another 2 squares to another 2 malefics, Mars and Pluto. I don't consider myself evil. Evil has been done to me, sometimes deliberately, but I didn't respond with evil. I am selfish sometimes, like everyone else, and I get mad, like everyone else. But it is a long way from that to becoming a serial killer. I recognized some patterns in my own mind in Peri's quotes. I believe Lucifer has to do with knowledge and the consequences it brings (light is knowledge), with choices and Ego. I don't think Lucifer is Satan. I see Lucifer as a rebel, not a cold-blooded killer. Lilith, which conjuncts my natal Lucifer in the 1st, is also a rebel. I believe I am one too. I rebel against preconceived notions and ideas that are being imposed on me as universal truths. I prefer to use my own judgement and find my own truth, about myself and the world I live in. ------------------
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popcorn
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posted August 20, 2010 02:51 AM
We are more than billion people in our world and the few sick people who says was serial killer can disregards. You are not alone to have that aspect.I've sedna 29 aries lucifer 4 in taurus. Lucifer on my midpoint saturn and nessus. In my solar return lucifer conj solar return juno. I've checked 15 year backwards but never had lucifer on my Sun/AC IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted August 20, 2010 03:42 AM
Interesting when I checked out my parallels and see I've lucifer conj my hygiea in almost exact parallels. I work on hospital. IP: Logged |
LEXX
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posted August 20, 2010 10:22 AM
Lucifer was NOT and is NOT Satan, nor the devil.IP: Logged |
DD
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posted August 20, 2010 11:31 AM
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DD
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posted August 20, 2010 11:32 AM
I have a Grand trine in Earth ofLucifer (Taurus) Venus (Capricorn) Hekate and Lilith (Virgo)
And I like it. 
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katatonic
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posted August 20, 2010 11:54 AM
i've never looked before! but lucifer natally is conj my NN and arthur...trine the sun(leo) and vesta(sag)...at the moment it is conjunct my DSC/atlantis/angel...i often have a hard time with my own chart!! peri..any suggestions? is this trip/incarnation all about bringing the light in an arien manner? or choosing the light? with that grand trine it should come naturally i would think...? or maybe just the opportunities come thick and fast lol... IP: Logged |
LEXX
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posted August 20, 2010 12:34 PM
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Peri
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posted August 20, 2010 12:41 PM
Kat, Arthur has to do with equality and democracy in my opinion, Lucifer brings light of knowledge so maybe your purpose is to live according to these principles and promote them which btw is consistent with your Leonine Sun (generous nature) and Sagittarian Vesta (your devotion to a higher vision of universal truth)? What do you think?ETA: thanks LEXX, I corrected my mistake: of course light of knowledge, not light and knowledge  IP: Logged |
LEXX
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posted August 20, 2010 12:47 PM
Light=light of knowledge...
NOT some ephemeral thing/energy as in "the light", which has too many vague erroneous definitions and meanings folks ascribe to the concept.
Some even very sinister.
I would NEVER tell any soul to "go to the light", that place of the true soul death where a soul's identity patterns are eliminated and in essence they indeed cease to exit.
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katatonic
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posted August 20, 2010 01:38 PM
yes peri, that rings lots of bells...and thanks, 1) for reassuring me that i am intuitively at least aiming for the appointed path, and 2) for understanding that leo is not all about showing off and being the center of attention...especially with aqua rising...but then you are a leo too, right? LEXX, i agree, and michael tsarion is adamant that worship of the light and fear of the dark is a salient feature of the "egyptians" who usurped the power in ancient egypt from the natives... IP: Logged |
LEXX
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posted August 20, 2010 01:42 PM
Great conversation here! 
Thank you Peri, katatonic, DD, popcorn, Izo!IP: Logged |
Peri
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posted August 20, 2010 02:22 PM
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but then you are a leo too, right?
no, I am Taurus Sun, Sag Moon and Cap Rising IP: Logged |
racole12
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posted August 20, 2010 02:23 PM
I have Lucifer conj Juno... I was really concerned about this until I learned Lucifer actually means light-bearer. IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted August 20, 2010 02:25 PM
okay my bad... didn't you say lucifer was currently conj your sun - when i looked today it was at 7 leo!?! must have misread your post!!still i agree that leo is about encouraging EVERYONE's self-expression and creativity, and self-rule.. edit. oh duh, that post was from over a year ago. explanation found! IP: Logged |
Glaucus
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posted August 20, 2010 02:26 PM
Yeah...I don't buy into the Christian,Bible stuff. I view it as mythology.Mythology and Religion are one and the same but involves relative perceptions as in some view mythology as religion and some view religion as mythology. ------------------
Raymond Andrews,
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Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind.
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DD
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posted August 20, 2010 02:26 PM
Jude Law has Lucifer conjunct ASC.
I have Angel conjunct ASC.
Both placements just mere 2 degrees off each other.
LOLPersonally I do not view the asteroid angel as something negative. After all angelos just means "messenger". IP: Logged |
Peri
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posted August 20, 2010 02:27 PM
that was last year when I started this thread, I had Lucifer conj Sun in my solar return chartIP: Logged |
Izo
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posted August 21, 2010 05:30 PM
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Yeah...I don't buy into the Christian,Bible stuff.
I don't, either. I don't buy the Christian view of the Bible. In my opinion, the Bible is some sort of "Idiot's guide to Life". Follow these simple rules and you'll be fine. It is a guideline for common sense. I do not like, however, the way it was interpreted and used as a tool for manipulating the masses. The Bible was written in symbols, pretty much the way astrology is. Symbols usually have several interpretations. Christian dogma used one interpretation and presented it as universal truth. This is how Lucifer became Satan and the symbol of all evil, when I believe he was a student who outgrew his master and decided to go on his separate path. ------------------
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NeptuneIllusion
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posted August 22, 2010 10:52 PM
I have Lucifer conjunct Venus. o.o I certainly hope it's a good thing. LOLIP: Logged |
LEXX
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posted August 22, 2010 11:01 PM
NeptuneIllusion
I see it as a good thing!
Like knowing when love is real or illusion.IP: Logged |
NeptuneIllusion
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posted August 22, 2010 11:04 PM
I have always been good at knowing whether love is real or not. Never been interested in any other kind.IP: Logged |
LEXX
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posted August 22, 2010 11:08 PM
Because Lucifer means light of knowledge and truth, it makes much sense then, that you have that ability via your Lucifer conjunct Venus! IP: Logged |
NeptuneIllusion
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posted August 22, 2010 11:20 PM
Well, that's very good to know because Lucifer has some pretty negative connotations in our Christian dominated culture. Heh.IP: Logged |
LEXX
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posted August 23, 2010 01:05 AM
Those negative Christian connotations are simply that, with no validity.
Please see this thread.
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