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posted May 20, 2009 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Problem with squares is they can go both ways.

They can mean an urgent irresistible attraction especially in the case of Venus, Mars, Pluto and Eros (aspecting each other), or they can trigger antipathy, animosity and result in real tough quarrels and misunderstandings.

I think the reason squares are not part of it is, that a square on its own will not point to a soulmate relationship.
BUT true soulmates can handle ANY Square and for them it`s the "salt in the soup".

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posted May 20, 2009 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is why I only suggested squares for the soul mate couples.

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but what about the square that youve talked DD?Between those you said?do they also turn bitter?

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posted May 20, 2009 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurus80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all,

Silly question but, on page three of this thread, are you all just using "male to female" like IQ put on the top? or are you also using those aspects "female to male"? I noticed DD used Paul's psyche in aspect to her sun. I'm way too literal

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i used only the male to female,but dont know really if it is also either way

hi taurus!how are you?

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posted May 20, 2009 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurus80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
heya Diandra!

I'm good ty, how are you? long time
Thanks for answering! I think maybe it was meant both ways hmmmm

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posted May 20, 2009 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the synastry of Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward, which I had been looking at, it was often HIS Yin planets aspecting her Yang planets, so i counted that.
If I hadn`t they would have even fewer points. (without that, they would score 13 points).

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posted May 20, 2009 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vesta,

well, we are using the soulmate calculator to see if two persons may be soulmates, so I would leave out the square from the calculations.

But once we have established that they are, I would of course analyse the squares, too.

Diandra,

I think even those squares can get "bitter", even though bitter is not the right expression.
They might turn out volatile and in some cases there might even be a risk of emotionally aggressive outbursts or even violence (it doesn`t have to happen though).
The friction could make them go at each others gut, if they are not having wild and steamy sex.

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posted May 20, 2009 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurus80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for explaining DD! You are right, makes sense to use both ways. I like how they don't have such a high score, more realistic.

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posted May 20, 2009 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Metatron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm wondering, the current soulmate connections we're trying to establish with this calculator seem to be only of some romantic, sexual nature or in general of some intense love, attraction, and devotion. I'm refering to the kind of asteroid connections we use and of course the categories, all of them from 1 to 6. They all refer to a romantic based soulmate relationship.

I mean what would than determine different kindes of soulmate relationship, what aspects, what connections? Let say very deep friendship between two strate guys for an exampl, or a very strong bond with one of your family members.

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posted May 20, 2009 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think for a close friendship - but let`s be honest, most people want to know about romantic soulmates -, we could look at Sun, Moon, IC, Ceres, Amor, Psyche.


Well, I donīt know if you have seen it, but I once posted a thread on this difference (only my own flawed theory) and I differentiated between romantic soulmates, intimate soulmates and karmic connections.
It is just a theory though, and needs a lot of work, too.

In that theory, the intimate but not necessarily romantic soulmates, would have strong Moon, Neptune, Pluto, 4th house, 8th house and 12th house connections. I am not completely sure about the 8th house though. But I guess the sizzling chemistry of 8th house comes from putting a planet like Sun, Venus or Mars in there.

However, I didn`t include asteroids though.

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posted May 20, 2009 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, late to the party... sorry. I am having major internet connection problems and can't add these from my iphone!

only using male to female.

his Pluto conjunct my eros 2
his mars in the same element as my venus 2
his eros in the same element as my psyche 2
his sun in the same element as my Aphrodite 2
his valentine trine my Aphrodite 1
his amor conjunct my NN 1
his valentine trine my sun 1
my mars conjunct his Saturn 2
His Neptune trine my lust 1
His Pluto trine my Proserpina 5
Zeus quincunx hera 5
eros trine psyche 5

eros trine psyche 5
(i have put these in cos although they are 4/5 degree orb, they are DW same aspect so l think it's relevant)
osiris trine isis 5
adonis trine innanen 5
TOTAL: 44

OK, if l add the draco:
his dr Pluto conjunct my n juno 2
his sun in the same element as my dr aphrodite 2
his sun in the same element as my dr psyche 2
his mars in the same element as my dr venus 2
His chiron conjunct my dr moon 1
my n pluto trine his dr mars 2
his dr amor conjunct my n mars 1
his dr amor trine my n Pluto 1
his dr lust trine my AC 1
his vesta trine my dr mars 2
his lust trine my dr psyche 1
his amor trine my dr sun 1
his valentine trine my dr karma 1
his dr karma conjunct my n AC 2
My Neptune trine his valentine 1
his draco proserpina opposes my n pluto 5
my draco pluto trine his natal peresphone 5
My dr Zeus conjunct his n hera 5
TOTAL DRACO/NATAL: 37


TOTAL BOTH = 44 + 37 = 81

is that right?

EDIT: forgot to include draco/draco
his dr sun conjunct my dr venus 5
his draco lust conjunct my draco venus 1
his draco valentine conjunct my NN 1
his draco sun conjunct my draco Saturn 2
his draco NN conjunct my draco Saturn 2
TOTAL: 11

81 + 11 = 92

huh?


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posted May 20, 2009 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Metatron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah i read that thread of yours and i liked it, made sense, especially those mixed bag connections .

I know, to most people the word soulmate means the one true love . Btw i find it interesting that we only use asteroids here or mostly aspects betwen them or other planets to them. Why are these asteroids so important? Wouldn't lets say a moon/sun conjunction be more significant and more soulmate alike? And how about the NN/sun,moon connections?

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posted May 20, 2009 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara,

I was wondering where you are, girl.
Hope everything is going well with you.


Well, are those aspect in max. 3 degree orb?
Even though the other aspects may be valid, they are not counted for the "soulmate calculations".
Actually when I mentioned it, I had the impression, that IQ was even hesistant to allow a 3 degree orb. I got the feeling he prefers a 2 degree orb.


Metratron,

thanks.
I`m still refining it. But it`s good to know that I made some sense.

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posted May 20, 2009 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 20, 2009 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Metatron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uuuupsi daisy i don't think i even score 10 with the girl:P. Mostly cuz my connections with her are mostly opposite and square lol. Ohh yeah, i'll wait for the final version of the calculator

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posted May 20, 2009 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Metratron,

Yes, well, we will have very different results depending if we use different orbs or other aspects (than mentioned).

So if someone uses orbs of 3 - 5 degree, he or she will of course have a higher score than someone who keeps to 2 degree orb.
But everyone has to find their own way. And it`s not yet definite, this soulmate calculator.

Personally I think the Moon-aspects are a bit neglected, and I find them to be important in soulmate-synastry, no matter if romantic or family or friends. Of course for romantic soulmate you need to have more than Moon-aspects.


Lara,

the soulmate calculator is based on the tropical positions.
Of course we can also calculate the Draconics, but they are not really added up.
Oh and I think for the Draco`s the scores should be higher, as we are looking at more charts.

Example:
in tropical comparision we only look at tropical - tropical.

For Draco we look at:
Draco - Draco
Draco - natal
Natal Draco


So I think the score should be two or three times higher, as we are looking at more charts.


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posted May 20, 2009 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 20, 2009 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Metatron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah i agree DD. Well i'm also cheering for the oppositions , maybe even for the squares, but only if there is already a soulmate connection without them. Even though i have sun square saturn and moon square karma with this girl...auuuch .

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posted May 20, 2009 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I calculated the result for my parents.

They have a score of 19, of which two are soulmate aspects: Pluto trine Persephone and an exact Isis-Osiris-opposition.

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posted May 20, 2009 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara, we don't count draco

we are only looking at natal
The draco is mor for fun after you know you are possibly soul mates

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posted May 20, 2009 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vesta,

well, I wouldn`t say Draco`s are exactly for "fun".

But it`s important to have the basics in tropical first.
I mean tropical is the one that shows what actually manifests on the physical plane.

I do think DRaco`s are significant, though, but in a more spiritual soul-oriented, maybe subtle way.

And yes, we do not add those points from DRaco and natal up.

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posted May 20, 2009 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok so my score is 44 then!

Hey DD, yes all within 3 degrees.
Sorry I haven't been around... Had major net problems and also still no email!!!!

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posted May 20, 2009 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, you said the Eros-Psyche trines were around 4 - 5 degree, so that is not really counted.

But 34 pts is still an awesome result. And is it true? Is he treating you like a loving soulmate should?

No email? Poor girl.

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