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Topic: Vivien Leigh and Laurence - Too much sex destroys soulmates ????
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MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 3671 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 02:28 AM
I'd be interesting in looking at their charts!!IP: Logged |
Peri Knowflake Posts: 1848 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 04:06 AM
Vivien LEIGH, born November 5, 1913 at 5:16 PM in Darjeeling (Inde) Sun in 12°27 Scorpio, AS in 11°52 Taurus, Moon in 9°02 Aquarius, MC in 29°12 Capricorn Chinese Astrology: Water Ox Numerology: Birthpath 3Laurence OLIVIER, born May 22, 1907 at 5:00 AM in Dorking, Surrey (United Kingdom) Sun in 29°58 Taurus, AS in 16°15 Gemini, Moon in 19°09 Virgo, MC in 11°08 Aquarius Chinese Astrology: Fire Goat Numerology: Birthpath 8 IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 3671 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 04:20 AM
AGGHHHH! Ox and goat! It's like fight to the death LOL! Thanks, Peri...I'll take a look IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 24, 2009 04:44 AM
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Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 24, 2009 04:45 AM
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Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 24, 2009 04:46 AM
Well whatever, we must not judge her and in truth she was a million times better looking than any of us so we can all cease to proclaim her otherwise.Good on her for loving sex... makes up for any of us who aren't getting enough of it IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 05:06 AM
Venus de Lionesse,what makes you think that they weren´t soulmates?
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MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 3671 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 05:30 AM
And is there any such thing as too much sex if you're soul mates ... or in general IP: Logged |
swirl-kitt Knowflake Posts: 271 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 05:42 AM
Sorry but I don't understand why they say she was sick ?How many people did she sleep with ?? She might have had urges but everyone does..
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 10:08 AM
I think sex was not the only problem. It was just an expression of her manic-depressive periods, which she obviously had.IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 7140 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 10:14 AM
So, because someone writes a book about something/someone, that makes it all true?I'm sure glad no one has written a book about me. I can think of a few people who think they know me and how a book about me, by them would be hilarious. I feel bad for poor Vivien right now. No body ever has a clue what another really goes through. May she rest in Peace. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 11:27 AM
T,you`re right. Just because someone writes something in a book, it is not necessarily true. Even though I don´t think it needs to be false either. It was written in the Laurence Olivier-biography that she was having a bipolar disorder, but of course that doesn`t mean it is necessarily true. Anyway if I understood it right, this thread isn`t so much about her (possible) bipolar disorder, but about the astrology of two people who were madly in love and whose marriage ultimately failed. Of course we cannot even be sure that they had been in love. We can only get this idea or opinion from those who talked about them and their behaviour and of course from their own interviews.
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T Knowflake Posts: 7140 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 11:43 AM
Hi DD. I wasnt really focusing on or concerned whether she had bipolar or anything else. My point was that we'll never know what truly went on between these two people's hearts. So, yeah, we are essencially saying the same thing, we just cant be sure through hearsay - even though some of these people may have known them. People have known me and my SO's before, but they are still only on the outside looking in. They could never truly know what the relationship was like between two people in the privacy of their own hearts and minds.I agree that there is most likely some truth to what is written, but also probably a lot of false because someone is trying to sell a book. I just think it's sad to make her out to be some kind of brutal sex crazed maniac and it sounds a little over the top to me (but, of course i dont know - but even if she was, so what? Like most people, I'm sure there was much more too her than that.). People are often motivated by money and to make a buck or two. And to sucessfully do so they have to hype these kinds of stories up. It's a shame. Sorry, it's just the first feeling I had on this one and seems to be what's going on here. IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 7140 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 11:46 AM
quote: Olivier would outlive Leigh for 22 years, during which he remained devotedly married to Plowright. Yet in the end, it was clear that he'd never gotten over Vivien either: In 1986, a visitor to his home found the 80-year-old Olivier sitting alone, watching Leigh in an old film on television. 'This, this was love,' he said, in tears. 'This was the real thing.'
Once loved by a Taurus, always loved. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 11:47 AM
I can understand you. I was pretty disgusted with the article myself. But since I have an interest in synastry, I was curious about their synastry. Of course it doesn`t mean that we really know what has been going on between them. I guess all we can say for sure is that they have married and divorced. Who knows for what reasons or what really went on behind closed doors?Yet, I still find their synastry intriguing. IP: Logged |
Peri Knowflake Posts: 1848 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 11:49 AM
quote: Once loved by a Taurus, always loved
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T Knowflake Posts: 7140 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 12:21 PM
Totally DD. I hear ya. Peri. IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 24, 2009 12:44 PM
Ah yes, taurean love Sigh IP: Logged |
Cheshire Kat unregistered
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posted May 24, 2009 01:04 PM
Always love by Taurean, lol my Leo and Pisces friend would so agree yet they would give the fowlest face agreeing to it though. I like my Taurean friend, he can be so nice but no one wants to give him the time of day..for just that reason^^..He's still young so he has time to learn, that people who break up with you and don't care about you are the kind of people you really should forget in life..they are just not worth it..This may not be the place to post this but does anyone know of that one couple, I believe the guy was some wannabe upcoming film director and he fell madly in love with some random girl and she left him because he was a shady cheater..he never got over her and eventually plotted to murder her. He used some henchmen to throw acid on her face and she eventually became blind..O.o IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 9078 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 03:39 PM
well considering the notorious difficulty in getting birth times on english charts, the 5am birth for olivier is suspect to me... if it were 5pm (or even noon),he would be a gemini...AND a goat. the goat on its own is enough to make an ox see red! though that depends on so many other factors, i imagine his creativity, and absorption in his art and his image, probably made her very insecure, and the whole sex thing could be down to that alone without any other factors - like manic-depression, which is well documented for her; self-medicating with alcohol; travelling around the world in a day when it was a lot harder on the body; and the fact that her career slid away while his kept growing... i agree it's impossible for us to know but i think it is puritanical and harsh to call her a sex-addict. her affair with finch happened when she was feeling neglected, i'm not excusing that but we're talking ACTORS here,(=egotists!) and a woman who hit the peaks in her 20s only to watch her fame slip away... and having known a few manic-depressives, one with a scorpio moon, i don't think anyone who is NOT M-D is in a position to hand down judgment on their behaviour. these people can be horrifying TO THEMSELVES let alone those who love them. and larry olivier was your quintessential ENGLISH goat, ie detaching himself from emotional scenes would have been second nature... to me it is obvious they were soulmates, though not the kind that are able to support each other through a lifelong intimate relationship.
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emma_duncan Knowflake Posts: 128 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 05:46 PM
well, i agree with DD....then we cant comment on anything....how do we know they loved each other, we all read stuff, use our own judgmenet/biases, and choose to believe or not believein any case, from wht is written it appears, she was extraordinarily pretty, and headstrong, which can make one act selfishly....i mean both of them left their marriages to get married to each other,,,,(yes yes many people believe its fair to do anything for true love).,...... and why saying someone is a sex addict a judgment....maybe she was...and in that case...it was just another challenge she had to deal with..... and being pretty doesnt excuse u from anything,,,it probably just predisposes you to be demanding...cause beauty is an asset that sells.....and gives u power to get things your way.....too much money, beauty, physical strength....all are assets that are v difficlut to handle and not e one who have them is wise/prudent enough,,,, anyway all said......she was just another humanbeing dealing with her life and challenges....and her own weaknesses....like all of us IP: Logged |
Diana Knowflake Posts: 2620 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 06:11 PM
I agree. So what if she had a lot of sex. With her husband, let's remember he was her husband. Even is he wasn't, who are we to judge? She was a scorpio. They are known to be lusty. Besides, I see so many sexual posts on this site, so a lot of people are being really hyprocritical. PS - Soul mates usually destroy one another. If the relationship was easy and calm, people wouldn't think it was their soul mate. Well, most people wouldn't. Be careful what you wish for if you want a "soul mate." IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 24, 2009 06:17 PM
VERY true about soul mates IP: Logged |
Diana Knowflake Posts: 2620 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 24, 2009 06:22 PM
I know, Lara. If anything, what was written, if it is true, makes me believe they are soulmates. IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 24, 2009 06:23 PM
Mine is still trying to destroy me - quite literally!I never want a soul mate again lol IP: Logged |