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posted May 24, 2009 06:24 PM            

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me neither. Soulmates suck!

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posted May 24, 2009 06:25 PM            

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Better to look at their synastry/composite than to bash them, IMO. I'd be game at looking at their synastry stuff (I'm glancing on it separately on astro)
I really still can't believe she's being labeled a sex addict for having a voracious sexual appetite.

If anyone wants post their charts that would be great. I have to upload to myspace just to get anything on here, and it's usually a pain in the butt.

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posted May 24, 2009 06:27 PM            

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Oh, I forgot. If she were a man, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

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posted May 24, 2009 06:36 PM            

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LOL Diana!!!!!!!!

hahahahahaha HA

Yes, they suck and if she were a man everyone would be praising him!!

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posted May 24, 2009 06:45 PM            

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Yes, they suck and if she were a man everyone would be praising him!!

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No, they would be sleeping with him!
I think the same applies if she was a woman. Oh, she is!
(most) Men dont really care if a woman is a bit loose. Easier.

Right, some astrology on it. Let me think....

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posted May 24, 2009 06:54 PM            

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She was a sex addict? Or at least diagnosed.

Ok.

Obviously, lots of red lines not too good. The thing that jumps out is Pluto at zero Cancer. That seems fine for being known as a sex (Pluto) addict (Cancer)

I guess whatever house rules Pluto will give more to look at.

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posted May 24, 2009 07:01 PM              

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We say we don't believe in soulmates..yet there is a synastry post every other day OAO;;...

I feel for her, back then they didn't have all of those resources we do now.

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posted May 24, 2009 07:08 PM            

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Anyone labeling her a sex addict is only reading the bits and pieces. She was probably bipolar, with sex just the result of her manic phases.

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posted May 24, 2009 07:10 PM            

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It's not that we don't believe in them... we just don't want them in our lives intimately lol

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posted May 24, 2009 07:12 PM            

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Lara, exactly!! Not that kind of soul mate, anyway. The older I get, the more I want a calm love.

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posted May 24, 2009 07:29 PM              

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That makes sense and eases me, I felt like I was reading these synastry threads and saw no hope in finding my best pal in life lol, thats right best pal.

I don't want a soulmate like Diana said because I know in my heart I am just not ready in this lifetime for one.

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posted May 24, 2009 07:35 PM            

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I'm with you, CK -- I'm not interested/ready for a "SoulMate" either. I can love and learn and grow just fine with a mere EarthMate.....
Passion is not the be-all/end-all for me.

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posted May 24, 2009 07:54 PM            

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well i have known some sex addicts and i don't think a few affairs, married to sir laurence olivier or not, qualifies you as one! oxen are generally more intense than goats and that's the beginning of their mismatch...an ox can be heartbroken at a missed engagement, while the goat doesn't even know he missed it! time/ what's that?

can we see their charts?

that sort of "grand passion" was very fashionable then, especially in "artistic" circles...

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posted May 24, 2009 08:47 PM            

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me too Diana. Bring on the calm LOVE!!!!

lol

If i ever find it i'll throw a huge LL party!

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posted May 24, 2009 08:58 PM            

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I hope I get to throw the party first. No offense, of course!

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posted May 24, 2009 09:14 PM            

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Just from experience here too, I will say that while Oxen and goats don't get along they do have a really remarkable sexual chemistry.
It's just that us oxen view goats as a bit flaky at times (like Katanonic kind of mentioned) and not wanting to get their precious hides dirty lol

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posted May 24, 2009 09:43 PM            

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I'm almost apathetic to the concept of soulmates, life is way too short to be living for that. I wonder why people always equate it with fairytale romance though? From what I've read on here or other places, the reality of it is the complete opposite..LOL.

I'd go crazy in a situation that was ALL passion anyways...haha.

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posted May 24, 2009 09:50 PM            

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MVM you're an ox too?? i have to admit that some of my favourite people are goats (including mr richards!) but maybe that is because i was born on a goat day? and they tend to have jupiter in leo which makes me feel good!

i find that while their ability to do the tunnel vision thing regarding their creative projects (or any projects) is one of the things i most admire about them, when i am the one being forgotten it is more than irksome!!

anyway i think without really knowing them, whatever the sexual activities of the oliviers it was not too much sex that killed the love but rather too many undercurrents. joan plowright is a great actress but she has always been first and foremost the "wife of", the supporting player to sir genius.

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posted May 25, 2009 12:53 AM            

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I beg to differ on "soulmates".

Even though some of these relationships are destructive and cannot survive, not all are.
There are calm and gentle and happy relatonships, too, and I definitely think those are soulmates, too.

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posted May 25, 2009 04:21 AM            

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Not Vivien's fault at all.

She had to contend with one of the most torturous and traumatic placements:
Asteroid KARMA, Retro PLUTO and Nessus forming an exact T-Square, all in starting points of signs.

retro Saturn then opposes her ISIS and quincunxes her Eros. This can cause mental conditions that needs sexual release especially when the native is a Scorpio woman having LUST sq Chiron exact. [needing sex as a healing to overcome trauma.]

She must have convinced herself that sex with the one she loves deeply is the only answer, a classic self-delusion of one who has Neptune exactly quincunx Valentine....

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Soul Mate Love Calculator

http://tamsoft.co.in/articles.html

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posted May 25, 2009 04:34 AM            

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She is pretty hot, I would do her, repeatedly.
It is more in her eyes, the "I am a freaky ass lover." You can tell. More pics of her in her prime.

Also, I am under the impression that if a "soul mate" is driving you insane or trying to ruin you, than by definition, that is not a "soul mate" but a psycho.

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posted May 25, 2009 07:44 AM              

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this thread is funny and really intriguing.

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posted May 25, 2009 11:04 AM            

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There is something in one of David Nivens books about the night he spent with an insane actress.
He doesn't actually name her but everyone knows it was Vivien Leigh.
Peter Finch rang him in desperation and when he got to the house Vivien was standing naked at the top of the stairs completely off her face on drugs or booze.
Anyway it took the two of them to control her and they had to stay the night and stay awake to stop her harming herself or running out in the street naked.
He said in his book it was one of the worst nights of his life and that the next day she didn't remember a thing.

Also Venus? Vivian was not half Indian. I think you are mixing her up with Merle Oberon (who was half Indian, and also auditioned for GWTW and as legend has it, towed her Indian mother around with her and passed her off as her nanny and personal housemaid)
The mother apparently was quite happy to go along with this and availed herself most happily of all the wealthy trappings!)

Ah Hollywood!
Don't make 'em like that anymore!

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posted May 25, 2009 12:14 PM            

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What's this, goats are flaky and off in their own world? Hey, if it's absent-minded to have to search for my car keys most days before going out...only to remember that I don't own a car, then guilty as charged.

Leigh's story is sad. She obviously had a lot of pain to deal with. I guess instead of looking at it as her problems destroying her ability to have a happy relationship, maybe instead we can see how remarkable their love was that it was able to give her bliss in what may have otherwise been a mostly troubled existence.

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posted May 25, 2009 12:32 PM            

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eve, you are too cute. actually my sister-in-law is a goat and would NEVER lose her keys, extremely organized and on top of things - however i have never had a meet with her where she was not at LEAST an hour late (and we used to be in business together!), she rarely initiates a phonecall (except for her current business and re her kids) and if she didn't have a house and family and business to run and school to go to she would spend ALL day painting, or making something beautiful!

as to vivien leigh's mom being indian apparently the lady's origin is lost to history. there WERE rumours that she was a half-caste, which would have been covered up by most "respectable" english of the day since neither indian nor english considered the half-castes socially acceptable. but she seems to have raised her daughter very properly, maybe too much so, and encouraged her to perform from a really early age...

my take is that soulmates come in all sorts, and if you are ready for the calm slow-burning relationship you will get one. but a lot of people aren't ready yet and teh turbulent relationships help to burn off spiritual dross to GET you ready.

vivien had a lot on her plate but both she and olivier eventually found the calmer kind of love - with other people. i don't consider it crazy to keep the memory of such a love burning even when you are happy to be past it...

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