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meta_4
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posted December 06, 2009 09:53 PM
  
Sir Ian Actor Persona:  Johnny Actor Persona:  IP: Logged |
meta_4
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posted December 06, 2009 10:02 PM
I checked out some chart of musicians as well (Dave Gahan, Anthony Kiedis, David Bowie) and Jupiter and Saturn in the 1st seems to be a pattern. Also Mars in the second is a pattern. Oh! And Virgo/6th house.Y'all can comment if you find anything. Or post charts of your own. I'm tired, and have lost my vigor for astrology research right now... sorry! IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted December 07, 2009 12:05 AM
ok last one for me and i'm only adding it as it's kinda WOW!my CHILD persona/his natal
my sun opp his mars (0)
my moon opp his karma (0)
my venus cj his NN (1)
my mars cj his saturn (0)
my NN cj his karma (0)
my child cj his first name (0)
my child opp his Lara (2)
my IC cj his karma (0) LOL WTF?! my Child Persona "part of daughter" cj his Karma (2) and opp my eros (1) his CHILD persona/my natal
his moon opp my AC (2)
his venus cj my AC (3)
his saturn cj my juno (1) karma (2)
his saturn opp my sun (2)
his NN cj my destinn (1)
his child cj my valentine (4)
his AC cj my nn/saturn (0)
his AC cj my moon/venus (3)
his IC cj my valentine (1) hahaha this is insane... jeez. His child Persona "part of daughters" cj my moon/venus (3) IP: Logged |
cooljen
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posted December 07, 2009 12:24 AM
Can someone help interpret mine?  
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DD
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posted December 07, 2009 08:59 AM
Meta,cool observations.  So the first quadrant in the MC Persona seems to indicate people who become very "visible" careerwise.
Definitely makes sense to me. Just this recent weekend I have been asked by a friend to write a little playscript for a christmas story to be performed in church next year. I wonder what Persona chart would I look at for for that? IP: Logged |
DD
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posted December 07, 2009 10:28 AM
This is my MC persona chart. What do you think?
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meta_4
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posted December 07, 2009 11:24 AM
cooljen,Interesting MC Persona. Lots of Virgo- perhaps you have an office job, or some managerial, administrative position. Communication is VERY important to you. You're probably organized, and a list maker. You keep everything in order and running smoothly- or at least you try! Finances are a source of emotional stress for you. Insecurity, in terms of money and possessions, makes you unstable. With Venus in the 12th and Eros in the 10th I'm thinking maybe you fall for people you work with? Perhaps an affair, or you have feelings you keep hidden? Are you an actor? IP: Logged |
meta_4
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posted December 07, 2009 11:35 AM
I think you should go for it. Your chart shows someone who places great importance on words and communication. Writing would be a great outlet for you.IP: Logged |
meta_4
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posted December 07, 2009 11:36 AM
DD,You have 3rd house cusp in Gem, with Mars occupying it. IP: Logged |
meta_4
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posted December 07, 2009 11:38 AM
You also have Venus, Sun and Pluto in the 6th so you'd definitely love doing the work.IP: Logged |
meta_4
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posted December 07, 2009 11:38 AM
Sun and Pluto are also touching Neptune, so your imagination would take flight! IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted December 07, 2009 11:41 AM
Presumably this is only for actors. I know a few highly creative people with prominent, successful careers and they have nothing in the 1st quadrant!I think the 1st is possibly "me me me" and not "others others others"? IP: Logged |
DD
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posted December 07, 2009 11:49 AM
Thanks, Meta.
Yes I think you`re right, writing is something I really really love. And I am already looking forward to be doing this script.
I have been writing a script for a little biblical play (ironically about the Exodus from Egypt; I say ironical, because I feel such an inner connection to Ancient Egypt), but that has been 7 years ago. And I haven`t really been writing much since then. I miss it somehow.
Time to get started again I guess.
Lara,
I think this 1st-quadrant dominance might - only- be important for the MC chart. The first of the MC chart would give insights about the general being / the Self (1st quadrant) of the career / calling (MC).
We probably have to differentiate it from a natal chart.
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meta_4
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posted December 07, 2009 11:59 AM
Lara,I'd love to give you insight on your previously posted Persona/synastries but that's too advanced for me! I don't know most of those asteroids.  Sorry love, i'm sure it's wonderful though! But no, we're not solely talking about actors. You can post their charts if you want, and we can take a gander. DD, Awesome. I figured you loved writing. Just make it happen! IP: Logged |
meta_4
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posted December 07, 2009 12:01 PM
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I think the 1st is possibly "me me me" and not "others others others"?
As an actor you have to be "me me me." You're a product. Your looks and sometimes your talent are what you're selling. IP: Logged |
DD
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posted December 07, 2009 12:38 PM
Meta,I agree on your take about actors.
But don`t they have to be about others, too, or otherwise they wouldn`t be able to reach their audience. I read in a really good astrology book that a very very strong concentration on the 1st quadrant without balancing factors could under certain circumstances gives someone almost autistic traits, and in those charts JI have checked this seemed to have been true. It is something completely different though if you have something to balance that.
Well, I am such a first-quadrant person myself (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Neptune, NN all in first quadrant), and even though I am not selfish, I can be pretty selfabsorbed at times.
But I have Saturn in 8th house, and I usually filter all these self-absorbance through this Saturn, or even through Pluto on MC.
I sometimes wonder if others see me more Saturnian / Plutonian as I really am with all my Sag-planets or if I maybe RELATE in a strongly Saturnian / Plutonian way to others, which is something which would be reinforced by my Venus in Capricorn squaring Pluto, too. Pluto and Saturn are tied to Venus and Moon by aspects, but just imagine, they were not!
I would probably not be able to ever connect with others! I have seen the chart of someone who had a strong 1st quadrant fixation WITHOUT aspects of 1st--quadrant planets to planets in the other-related houses, and he was living so much in his own world, that neither got anything from the outside through to him nor he could really connect to others, UNLESS they did exactly as he wanted, which is not a true mutual connection at all. IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted December 07, 2009 12:43 PM
yeah i know you are a product, which is why i said ME ME ME
lol
I can't post their charts as they are famous friends and i don't have their permission.
DD - the MC is to do with the career, right? So surely any career where the person is top of their field and famous for it would show up in their MC persona chart, no?
or am i just swine flu delirious? lol IP: Logged |
DD
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posted December 07, 2009 12:58 PM
YEs, I think you are right, Lara. It is not only about actors or writers, there are other careers possible.
I think the persona chart for MC might even give hints what career might be suitable for someone.Like Meta pointed out, my ASC-ruler Mars is in Gemini trine Mercury in LIbra in 7th house, which also rules the 3rd house.
I guess that would make me suited well for a Mercurial / Gemini profession, so writing could actually be the thing.
I also have Jupiter and Chiron in the 1st house in Aries - is that the clue towards me being a teacher?
And in Aries, probably an Arien-like one?
(I think I am a pretty enthusiastic teacher, who easily gets carried away in a lesson, but I am not impatient with my pupils).
Musa is conjunct NN in Scorpio - so is it part of my lifepath / purpose to get inspired (Musa) in deep transformational ways?
Maybe the house placements or sign placements could also give hints, especially of the Sun.
Sun is in Libra conjunct Pluto, which funnily coincides with my natal chart, where MC is in Libra conjunct Pluto. So I guess my career / calling also has Libran / Plutonic overtones.
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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted December 07, 2009 05:17 PM
DD, the Sun in any persona chart is the location of the object itself natally, so it would be exactly in the location of your natal MC. I thought my Moon persona chart was kind of cool. It has both a mystic rectangle and a t-square in it. I've never had a mystic rectangle in any of my configurations before. Thoughts?  I've also done Venus, Saturn, and Neptune persona chart comparisons between me and Aqua's charts. The Venus persona charts are crazy. His Venus persona ASC is conjunct my natal Venus. His Venus persona Chiron is widely conjunct my Moon, and his Saturn on my Sun (also in natal synastry). My Venus persona ASC is conjunct his natal Mars, and my DSC is conjunct his natal Mercury. His Saturn persona Chiron is closely conjunct my Moon and his Mars my Venus. In his Neptune persona chart his DSC is conjunct my natal ASC and his Venus is conjunct my Uranus. IP: Logged |
vertiver
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posted December 07, 2009 10:21 PM
What is the deal with chiron conjunct the Asc.? Both my Moon and Jupiter persona charts (which is my Asc. ruler) have Chiron conjunct the Asc. and a yod involving the 12th house.
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cooljen
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posted December 08, 2009 09:27 PM
Hey meta_4! Thanks for your reply. I do place a lot of importance on words (word choice) and I am fairly particular about grammar.
I'm not an actor - I havent performed in any plays or anything. But I always really enjoyed performing 'skits' in classes so I took up some acting classes too. I posted the Actor chart too because I want to pursue it further and was curious what the chart said about acting. ------------------
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BeholdAstarte
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posted December 10, 2009 12:02 AM
i read this board last night and looked into persona charts and its so cool! its really interesting.. i can understand some of them to a point but my interpretation is still hazy.. can someones help me interpret some? heres my ascendent and MC for starters.. 
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BeholdAstarte
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posted December 10, 2009 12:22 PM
i think reading some of other peoples interpretations on here makes it a little easier.. but its still difficult. IP: Logged |
liltaurean
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posted December 15, 2009 06:01 AM
how do you do a persona chart for a body other than the ones given in the drop down list?IP: Logged |
MoonMystic
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posted August 13, 2021 10:17 PM
Can anyone please shed light for me?
I originally used these charts to find the particular persona, looking at it based on it's own terminology. So if looking @Mercury, I found my Merury location in the persona chart. I have read the Sun is the place of the chosen energy highlighted in the Persona chart. So if I'm looking for the personality of my
Venus, do I study Sun or Venus in the PERSONA selected study. Thank you. IP: Logged |
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