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MyVirgoMask
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posted September 17, 2009 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm... 1st I was looking at relocation or moving house, but now I'm wondering if there's something with relationship/marriage. In general it looks like it was a big year for your friend

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posted September 17, 2009 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MVM,

what makes you think it was a big one for her? (Which it was)

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posted September 17, 2009 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD, it's the 4th house stuff which keeps catching my eye, and then I see that Jupiter on the 7th, and then I am confused whether the natal is on the inside or the outside LOL

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posted September 17, 2009 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MVM,

natal is on the inside.

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posted September 17, 2009 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, DD, that clears up a few things

That SR Chiron on the 7th looks pretty significant to me.
But the 4th house stuff still stands out, and I still feel like there's something with moving or relocation and/or big relationship leading to marriage/children.
I'm not really familiar with reading SR charts, so it's a little hard. I'm just intuiting that it was a big year maybe having to do with that stuff.

So now I'm all curious what happened with your friend that year

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posted September 17, 2009 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you mind if i wait for Peri, before clearing this up?

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posted September 17, 2009 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh it's cool, I'll check back - I'm interested in what she says as well

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posted September 17, 2009 10:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IM LEArning a lot in this thread

thank you for this idea!

Izo welcome back dear friend!!!!Hughs

Peri

i didnt knew that 4TH related to endinds?How so please?

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posted September 18, 2009 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
heh this is what you get when you do a quick-glance analysis, lol

ok, I see now this year was so to say crucial for her, Pluto in the 1st and Sun on MC

there are many indicators of pregnancy or child birth, so I think she might have gotten pregnant that year

I see lots of travelling and change in a career or social status, she might have gotten even a degree or promotion at work or rather she moved abroad and her life changed for the better there, lots of communtication and some misunderstanding there too

I think her health might have been not so good, maybe she had to stay in the hospital something unpleasant from other people, if not her SO then probably doctors or so I mean there were lots of upsetting news despite overall the year was good Id say

hmm dunno, I cannot say much about the chart

anyone else? help me, lol

P.S. Diandra 4th house rules natual death in natal astrology and endings in solar charts

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posted September 18, 2009 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Peri,

"ok, I see now this year was so to say crucial for her, Pluto in the 1st and Sun on MC"
Yes, very crucial.

"there are many indicators of pregnancy or child birth, so I think she might have gotten pregnant that year"
No,n o pregnancy that year. But I thinkit was the year she started seriously thinking about having own children; something she had rejected for a long time.


"I see lots of travelling and change in a career or social status, she might have gotten even a degree or promotion at work"
It was the last year of her education as a teacher, and she would have her final exam in november 2004, which was during the next Solar Return.
But this year was important in preparing for this.

Yes, her social status changed.


"I think her health might have been not so good"
She was having some minor troubles, yes. Panic attacks mostly. And Ithink maybe migraine.


But the huge event was that she actually got married.

The chart very clearly shows what she wants in a marriage: security, partnership, sharing, nurturing, having an own family.

Funny, she married someone whose Sun and ASC are conjunct her DESC in Capricorn.
And during that year the transiting DESC ruler (Saturn) had been exactly on her natal ASC.


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posted September 18, 2009 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont see many indicators for marriage, maybe Sun on MC and NN conj DSC but I had these last year and did not get married although I was thinking about it (the relationship did not work) when my mom got married she had classic solar DSC/NN conj natal ASC

thanks DD!

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posted September 18, 2009 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, so she DID get married, DD
I had a feeling.
I dunno why.

I looked at my SR chart when I got married and I was having none of the 'usual' stuff for marriage... but I was having my SR Venus conjunct my natal Venus...isn't that a Venus Return? LOL.

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posted September 18, 2009 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, that is why I posted that chart. It is a bit tricky.

But that ruler of DESC on her ASC just struck me.
Plus this chart really signifies what she values most in a marriage, even though it is unusual. It is neither passion nor romance, but this reliable intimate and caring bond.

Interestingly HIS SR looks a lot more romantic than hers.
With Solar ASC exact on his MC:
Solar Sun, ruler of his inverted 7th house, on his ASC (but that is always so),plus Solar Saturn, ruler of his natal ASC, exact on his DESC.


Solar Neptune and Venus both conjunct natal Moon, which rules his natal DESC.


Solar Uranus exact on Solar IC.


Solar Mars in Solar 5th house conjunct natal Jupiter (and her Moon)


Solar Moon conjunct the cusp of his natal 5th house.


Solar NN closelyconjunct natal SN.
and squaring Solar Venus.


Solar Moon (his natal DESC ruler) falls into the 7th Solar house on the natal 5th house cusp and opposes his Venus exactly (his Solar Moon is also conjunct her natal Jupiter, interesting).

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posted September 18, 2009 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a question.

If I want to look at an event in 1994 (let`s say 30th september), but I have been born on 18th december.

Do I have to look at the SR-chart for teh 17th december 1993?

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posted September 18, 2009 05:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes

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posted September 18, 2009 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks.

I am having a look at my Mum`s SR at the time of her marriage.


Hmm, it does not look all that romantic.


Solar ASC conjuncts natal Moon in 4th house

Solar ASC conjunct solar Pluto

Solar Moon conjunct natal Mercury in natal 5th house

Venus-Juno-conjunction in Solar, Venus is ruler of the solar ASC

Solar NN conjunct solar IC conjunct natal Chiron in natal 6th house

OH, but she was having Solar Vertex conjunct Solar DESC conjunct her natal Jupiter in 10th house


Solar SAturn was on Solar MC - and Saturn is her natal DESC ruler (so once AGAIN The Desc ruler became angular!)

For my Dad it looked like this:

Solar Pluto on Solar IC, and both conjunct natal Mars and Juno in 1st house

Solar Neptune conjuncts natal IC widely (5 degree), and Neptune is his natal DESC ruler. So again the Desc ruler plays a role. All of this falls in the solar 5th house.


Solar Vertex conjunct natal IC and Chiron in solar 5th house and natal 4th house


A MEGA conjunction of Solar Sun and Solar Venus on Solar DESC which falls onto natal Sun in 5th house - NOW that was a year for romance and marriage I guess!


Solar Mercury conjuncts natal Venus and Jupiter (Mercury rules the ASC)

Solar MC conjuncts natal NN

Solar Saturn conjuncts natal Uranus

Solar Chiron in Solar 10th and natal 8th house opposes natal Neptune, the ruler of his DESC


EDIT:

If children "inherit" a preference for certain aspects, then I maybe should wait for the year that Solar Mercury will be on ASC, DESC, IC or MC, as this is MY Desc-ruler.


Well, I guess 1992 would have been the year for that. But somehow I didn`t get married. lol


Now THAT is odd. I checked the years Solar Mercury was on my ASC, and it were these years I bumped into a certain someone.


EDIT 2:

2012 will be interesting in this regard.

Then I will have Solar Mercury conjunct Solar ASC and this will fall onto natal ASC; looks pretty significant.

Solar Pluto will be on natal Venus exact

Solar Moon will exact on Solar MC

Solar Jupiter will be conjunct natal 5th house cusp

Solar NN will be widely conjunct natal NN (4 degree)

Ah but it is long until then.

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posted September 18, 2009 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually 2013 might be even a better time with

Solar Mercury on my ASC

Solar NN conjunct my natal Valentine
Solar Venus conjunct my natal Mars
Solar MC conjunct my natal Sun
Solar luto conjunct natal Venus
Solar Moon conjunct natal Moon
Solar ASC conjunct natal Jupiter and Juno
Solar Uranus exact on natal IC
Solar Jupiter on natal DESC

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posted September 18, 2009 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW DD!! what a solar, what a solar!

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posted September 18, 2009 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Funny i had a quick glance and thought marriage ... but I can't interpret very well so I don't know exactly why I thought that.

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posted September 18, 2009 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's mine for 2008/2009


Justi on the chart = my name asteroid... thought I'd put it in there to see what it came up with. Don't know if they are relevant in solars though.


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posted September 18, 2009 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ahh, DD, I missed Ceres + Vesta + ASC + planet >> one of marriage indicators!

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posted September 18, 2009 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Peri,

which solar do you mean?


Which one is the marriage indicator or only if they are together?

How do you interprete Vesta?

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posted September 18, 2009 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I mean the last solar chart you posted, I have seen in many charts Vesta, Pholus, Ceres, POF, esp Vesta conj Ceres conj Angle for the years of marriage

Vesta - commitment
Ceres - nurturing

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posted September 18, 2009 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is POF important to include in a solar return chart?

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posted September 18, 2009 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
POF is often prominent in solar charts for marriages and bith of a child

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