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Lara
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posted June 29, 2009 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ummm no. I'm not being a hypocrite... i don't think so anyway!
Paul is renowned for his temper... so it is in no way personal although i personally would trust MJ over Paul anyday.

I just don't think it's right to imply that MJ only did it out of guilt. We all do things for reasons and those reasons are personal.

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Diana
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posted June 29, 2009 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, you always can say bad stuff about people you don't like, for whatever reason, but no one can say anything about someone you like without getting attacked.

So, it's alleged that PM has a bad temper, which I have never heard, btw. Why is THAT info correct, but all the tons of negative info about MJ incorrect?

Hypocrite.

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woah city
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posted June 29, 2009 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cpn, really? i can't find that info on google. do you have a link?


"I unerstand that person who allged sex abuse has recanted today. he said he could not live with the lie anymore and MJ did no such thing to him, his father made him say it to extort money from MJ."

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posted June 29, 2009 03:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my secretaries daughter called and said it was on CNN live coverage. i haven't seen the story on the web as of yet.

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Lara
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posted June 29, 2009 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK Diana... whatever.

Paul McCartney always made out that he wrote the Beatles songs when in fat Lennon wrote most of them. This is common knowledge and i don't think you can really say that i'm being a hypocrite for pointing out the truth! lol

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posted June 29, 2009 03:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
found it : (EXCERPT)

After the sudden death of Michael Jackson Evan Chandler tells the truth. In 1993, Chandler told a psychiatrist and police that he and Jackson had engaged in sexual acts that included oral sex, the boy gave detailed description of Jackson’s genitals. The case was settled out of court for a reported $22 million, but the strain led Jackson to begin taking painkillers. Eventually he became addicted.

Now maybe for the remorse of his death Chandler decides to tell us the truth. ” I never meant to lie and destroy Michael Jackson but my father made me to tell only lies. Now i can’t tell Michael how much i’m sorry and if he will forgive me ”.Evan Chandler was tape-recorded saying amongst other things, “If I go through with this, I win big-time. There’s no way I lose. I will get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever…

Under the influence of a controversial father (Jordan Chandler) told his son to tell that Jackson had touched his penis.Jordan Chandler then told a psychiatrist and later police that he and Jackson had engaged in acts of kissing, masturbation and oral sex, as well as giving a detailed description of what he alleged were the singer’s genitals.
” Now for the first time i can’t bare to lie anymore. Michael Jackson didn’t do anything to me, all was my father lies to escape from being poor.”

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted June 29, 2009 03:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PM has nothing to do with MJ (OTHER THAN THE BEATLES SONG RIGHTS, WHICH IS NOW RESOLVED) and is a creative genious in his own right whether he wrote or collaborated on all of those songs or not. we should leave him out of this thread.

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Lara
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posted June 29, 2009 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hear Hear !

Glad you found it, interesting.... and very very sad.

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posted June 29, 2009 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diana,
you argue like a 5 year old snotty girl. Do you really expect Lara or anyone else in that matter to turn around at 180 degree and immediately start detasting their Idol only because you pointed out a flaw of theirs? That's not gonna happen, be prepared. And hypocrisy is not the name we label it with, its called Love.

Speaking about the alleged "stealing" of the Beattles songs catalog by MJ...He never really stole it. in 1985, the catalog was up for sale at a bidding. Michael Jackson happened to be the highest bidder ( $48 mln) and he got it. If Paul Maccartney had bidded more, he would have gotten it. He didn't. Needless to say, Yoko Ono was extremely pleased since she never wanted the rights to go to Paul M alone.
When MJ had financial difficulties in 2001, everybody thought he wold sell the catalog to get some money back. He, however, stated: "The Beatles catalogue is not for sale, has not been for sale and will never be for sale." He now left it to PM in his will.

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Lara
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posted June 29, 2009 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think what he did in his will was an act of a real gentleman Orange. Now Sir Paul should be so humbled. I agree with you. LOVE. The ability to spot a good, decent human being amongst the masses and respect them enough to honor and uphold their name in their absence.

I'm really just in turmoil now though having read that Chandler admits NOW that MJ never abused him... Chandlers accusation were the end of MJ's career and the start of the long road to his death. This tragedy is becoming sicker by the day

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woah city
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posted June 29, 2009 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
okay i am not the smartest kid on the block, but i've been googling and i can't seem to find any credible news sources with this story..? you'd think it would be headline news.

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posted June 29, 2009 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara, i am not sure about the credibility of this news...it was reported in the yellow press, never by any credible news source. He wiil come around, this lizard, soon or later...

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posted June 29, 2009 04:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
all i know is what i heard.

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Lara
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posted June 29, 2009 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MJ's death started out on a non-credible news channel so there's hope that this is a true story (well we know in our hearts it is) and MJ's name can finally be cleared, although sadly too late.

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posted June 29, 2009 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah i hope it's true. i remember not believing that he molested children initially and arguing with people on another forum, because i believed he was just highly misunderstood (it's easy to believe the worst of a person when that person is highly eccentric and childlike at that).

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posted June 29, 2009 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow lara you know how too scare someone off haha.

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Diana
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posted June 29, 2009 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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OK Diana... whatever.

Paul McCartney always made out that he wrote the Beatles songs when in fat Lennon wrote most of them. This is common knowledge and i don't think you can really say that i'm being a hypocrite for pointing out the truth! lol

zzzzzz


Again, you can say bad stuff about someone you don't like, but NO ONE can say bad stuff about someone you idolize. That's hypocrisy. You do this in every thread about someone famous. If anyone doesn't like the person, for whatever reason, you take it so personally instead of just realizing it's their opinion.

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posted June 29, 2009 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Diana,
you argue like a 5 year old snotty girl. Do you really expect Lara or anyone else in that matter to turn around at 180 degree and immediately start detasting their Idol only because you pointed out a flaw of theirs? That's not gonna happen, be prepared. And hypocrisy is not the name we label it with, its called Love.

Speaking about the alleged "stealing" of the Beattles songs catalog by MJ...He never really stole it. in 1985, the catalog was up for sale at a bidding. Michael Jackson happened to be the highest bidder ( $48 mln) and he got it. If Paul Maccartney had bidded more, he would have gotten it. He didn't. Needless to say, Yoko Ono was extremely pleased since she never wanted the rights to go to Paul M alone.
When MJ had financial difficulties in 2001, everybody thought he wold sell the catalog to get some money back. He, however, stated: "The Beatles catalogue is not for sale, has not been for sale and will never be for sale." He now left it to PM in his will.


I don't expect them to start doing anything. This is a message board for the exchange of information and opinions..

It's not love, but hypocrisy when she won't tolerate anyone expressing a contrary opinion about someone and then doing exactly what she bitches and moans about: attack the other person, here it is PM.

PM didn't have the money to beat MJ's bid and MJ knew about the bid because his friend told him. Do you really think MJ would leave such a substantial amount of money to PM, and not his children if he didn't feel he acted wrong and betrayed PM?

We'll see if he actually left it to him. I believe he wanted to.

Why should PM be humbled? He did nothing wrong. PM was decent to forgive him.


And if MJ was so decent, why is it he never granted part of his massive fortune to charity (that I am aware of)? He's supposed to be this angel on Earth, so why did he help no one?

I mean really, idolization is so stupid. He was a man, and a flawed one at that.

I still haven't seen anything regarding the victim recanting on the major news outlets...

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posted June 29, 2009 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus:

I wasn't scared off. I was out and away from my PC.

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posted June 29, 2009 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
first off diana its deptaurus write it the way its written and dont bring me into this cause i dont care about you or your online pointless fights peace out. and even though i implied that i really dont care.

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posted June 29, 2009 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK Diana, i think i take it personally (in your eyes) because i have been brought up having known the people l decide to disagree with you on... but trust me, i don't take it personally... far from it. I'm just passionate and damn honest.
Can we quit the "you always do and say and sh1t this" now please because it seems to be becoming a habit with you


Dep - l know!!!! must be the LYNX EFFECT hahaha

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Lara
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posted June 29, 2009 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
umm Diana, i think you need to get your facts straight.

MJ has donated well over 200m to charity!!!
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-03/17/content_425933.htm
http://www.jacksonaction.com/?page=charity.htm

enough bull**** no, ok?
Please.

I am sick of all this degradation of this LL thread that is only here for us all to remember and express our feelings about MJ.
If you have a problem with me Diana, take it somewhere else.
PEACE.

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posted June 29, 2009 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This thread is starting to stink. I can't believe the lack of civility and degradation involved.
If someone in your own family died, I can't imagine how pleased you'd be if people starting kicking them. No matter what who that person is, and what they did, they are still your family.
How is this any different?
Because MJ isn't YOUR family then you don't feel any sense of personal responsibility ?
Instead bashing a barely dead person about their (real or imagined) sins is somehow OKAY...how? How does it make you a better person to do so? You think the fact that you can voice your opinion is simply something that you can fling around whenever you please, regardless of any care or thought?
Absolutely disgusting. Talk about a mob mentality.
'Oh, it's a celebrity, they don't count because they're not really human.'
That's how this thread is going now....

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Diana
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posted June 29, 2009 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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first off diana its deptaurus write it the way its written and dont bring me into this cause i dont care about you or your online pointless fights peace out. and even though i implied that i really dont care.

I'll write it however I want to write it. You don't own the internet. If you don't care, why'd you even butt in? The only person, up until now, that I've argued with is Lara who is totally fake, with a capital "F" from all of her posts. She pretends to meet every celebrity that someone doesn't like.

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Diana
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posted June 29, 2009 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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OK Diana, i think i take it personally (in your eyes) because i have been brought up having known the people l decide to disagree with you on... but trust me, i don't take it personally... far from it. I'm just passionate and damn honest.
Can we quit the "you always do and say and sh1t this" now please because it seems to be becoming a habit with you

Honest, you?! LMAO. This from the person who manipulates every man she meets. LOL, you need to be honest with yourself about this fact, Lara.

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