posted July 08, 2009 12:02 AM         

Is it the Taurus in me that likes to stick to the basics and not complicate matters more?

posted July 08, 2009 12:08 AM         

I have a hard enough time trying to keep this stuff simple LOL

posted July 08, 2009 12:16 AM         

I'm feeling a little old and clueless in this forum these days.

posted July 08, 2009 12:23 AM         

Simplicity may not be as fashionable these days amongst the astrological circles, but it is our loss as many an astrologer chasing the newest asteroid or other object fails to grasp the foundations of the art that have withstood the test of time.

I bow to you for keeping the flame burning - whether taurus-inspired or not.

posted July 08, 2009 12:45 AM         

I know what you mean - I'm becoming unhealthily paranoid too in light of recent events.

Can I hide out in your copout with you?

posted July 08, 2009 01:02 AM         

i just finished building an extension to the stone wall, so all 4 of us can fit. Their asteroids won't penetrate this barrier.

posted July 08, 2009 04:15 AM         

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Their asteroids won't penetrate this barrier.

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posted July 08, 2009 04:43 AM         

Asteroids and Draconic Charts help us understand these complex personalities. Especially in matters like soulmates.

posted July 08, 2009 12:32 PM         

Whenever I see charts listed on this site and people are looking for answers beginning with asteroids and then they find it, I tend to see the answer quite fast in the basic astrology and the asteroid answer tends to be more like a twinkle light instead of the bonfire glaring you in the face in the basic astrology.

I've never seen an answer with asteroids only that I can't find quickly and strongly first in the chart including Uranus, Neptune and Pluto.

But I'm also reminded that astrology is thousands of years older than the discovery of those 3 outer planets and people were finding strong answers in charts even when they only had up to Saturn to use along with the fixed stars.

I feel that the age of the internet and the instant answer (Google) gives people very short attention spans for study. They want astrology to tell them instantly and sometimes it does, but I believe you need to learn how to walk carefully before you run, before you ride a bike, drive a car, fly a plane, take a rocket to the Moon, explore the planets...

With that said, I now work with Chiron as a co-ruler of Virgo affecting health and being related to Venus, Jupiter or Neptune by trine or conjunction in the synastry of married couples. I've seen tremendously strong evidence of Valentine working when someone feels like their true love is here and I simply cannot deny the synchronicity of personal name asteroids making strong relationships to each other or planets with important people in our lives.

posted July 08, 2009 12:55 PM         

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very often here it seems like people are trying to find the "magic measurement" because they can't find it with basic astrology.

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posted July 08, 2009 01:20 PM         

I prefer the 21st century in regards to the centaurs and kuiper belt objects/transneptunians because our solar system doesn't end with Pluto. There is a lot more knowledge about our solar system than the ancients had when they only used planets up to Saturn. with the discovery of Uranus, astrology started to diverge big time....especially after the discoveries of Neptune,Pluto,and Chiron

as we got closer to the 21st century, astronomers found the centaur belt,and it was eventually turned out that Chiron was actually one of over 60 centaurs.
During that time period, astronomers also found the kuiper belt, and it was eventually turned out that Pluto was actually one of thousands of kuiper belt objects. As we entered into the 21st century, the astronomers found big kuiper belt objects starting with Varuna, Ixion (broke Ceres' record as the largest minor planet), then Quaoar which was half the size of Pluto and so was larger than Ixion, and then Orcus which was larger than Quaoar, and then the hypothesized oort cloud object,Sedna larger than Orcus, and then the discovery of Haumea and Makemake which are even larger than Sedna and then when Eris was finally discovered and found to be larger than Pluto, the debate of Pluto's planetary status was at its maximum which led to the destruction of the old order of solar system classification and creation of a new order of solar system classification.

None of this invalidates astrology like many astrological skeptics think. I think that Astrology advances with every discovery just like sciences do.

Centaurs and Kuiper Belt objects are part of the 2st Century Astrology.

however good old fashioned astrology is foundation of 21st century Astrology and many other types of Astrology.....even Cosmobiology.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted July 08, 2009 01:42 PM         

i don't go into asteroids unless a question is not answered with a basic chart...but i have to agree with IQ and glaucus, that the world once consisted of what could be seen by the naked eye, and now contains so much more...the universe itself can now be seen to be both vaster and more intimate than it once was. i appreciate the research these guys and others here have done into the asteroids though often the "line" of the research doesn't grab me!

posted July 08, 2009 01:48 PM         

BTW

I prefer good old fashioned Astrology when I am doing synastry and composite charts.

I do not use any minor planets.....that even includes Chiron because then if I use Chiron, might as well as use Chariklo (named after Chiron's wife),Nessus,Asbolus,Pholus,Hylonome,and others.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted July 08, 2009 01:49 PM         

when i started to get into astrology, i first came upon the sabian symbols. i didn't believe in old style astrology at the time, or just what we call astrology.

my virgo IC maybe, but i was a sceptic.astrology was not something that attracted me, partly because i was sceptical because astrology was something accepted by some, and i'm wary of that. i don't want to be a sheep, (i'm already a sheep in chinese astrology, enough!).

then, i fell in love, started to ask myself questions and got into a spiritual quest. astrology came to me through a book on sabian symbol found in a library in london. when i read it, things started to make sense. so for me, astrology is definitely real, and if sabian symbols make sense, then i can't imagine planets not making sense too. from then, i had an iconoclastic attitude regarding astrology. or more rightly, a personal approach. i'm ok with anything that makes sense in astrology. and i want to experiment fully. like house system is something that i want to elucidate, or sideral/tropical/constellation astrology. i want to know. the aries point, which one? and draconic? are they valid? and? and? and?