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Topic: Can I trust a Scorpio man?
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Deux*Antares Knowflake Posts: 408 From: No Permanent Address Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 08, 2009 05:24 PM
Yes, you can. I don't think it's his sign or his chart that should be the issue here, maybe it's men and relationships in general. I strongly suggest that you take your mind off your parents' history. What many people don't understand is that our expectations, which are colored by our experiences, play a big part in what kind of things/people/situations we attract to us. We may be consciously sure about what we want, but if deep inside us we are attached to certain negative beliefs, we will end up with exactly what we don't like. IP: Logged |
SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 65 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 08, 2009 06:56 PM
Hey all,Thank you very much for your comments. It's good to "talk" (merc in Sag, venus in Libra, leo moon talking here). Very good points. He doesn't owe me anything as its only been a week. I am getting friendship/attraction/love confused. Expectations should be lower as its an early stage. He has no idea I was annoyed as I was very chilled in my text to him and told him to have fun so at least I was angry at him with my friends and not him. I was surprised that I thought he would cheat! he has never shown me any evidence that he would do this. Perhaps in love matters I am insecure? But am an independent loving Saggie and venus/mars in libra I like harmony. I need to stop thinking and just enjoy... Sparkling IP: Logged |
SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 65 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 08, 2009 07:04 PM
Glaucus,Good points about the planets. It would explain my confused feelings at the moment and I know deep down its not rational and im being quick to judge. I should also take into account how lovely he was before he left. Telling me how happy he is to be with me and hes glad its turned from friendship to more. So yeah, I should focus on the positive and nott let my imagination run wild. Sparkling IP: Logged |
amowls* Knowflake Posts: 541 From: richmond va Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 08, 2009 07:25 PM
Maybe you're going through a weird transit? I all of a sudden got super obsessive during a Pluto square Venus transit.IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 1060 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 08, 2009 08:32 PM
I see why you're feeling the way you are, though, Sparkling. At this stage, you don't have an agreement not to see other people, and you're not answerable to each other, and he's not OBLIGATED to tell you if he leaves town, but...it's a bummer that the thought that he was going away for a week at this new stage in your hookup didn't fill him with woe. You should trust your intuition. IP: Logged |
BlueTopaz124 Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Portland, OR, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 08, 2009 09:40 PM
I say take a step back and realize that first, this is the very beginning, and you said you are doing. He might be used to doing what he does without discussing his plans with anyone unless it's for work and involves others.I am also a Sun Sag and tend to be suspicious (Mercury in Scorpio in 12th, always analyzing motives). This same Mercury in Scorpio in my 12th values my privacy and does not like people who need to know all my personal details just for the sake of gossip or needing to know my business (I am only saying this last part because that's what goes on at my work). I am very choosy with what I let people know about myself. For a Sag, I am very private about most things. Most Scorpios I know will let you in to their world but only as far as they want to let you. IP: Logged |
SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 65 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 09, 2009 03:21 AM
Lucia-Thanks for your comments. He had told me we are offically together and exclusive. He says he likes to have a girlfriend and not mess around with other women. Perhaps it was because he stated this and then went off for a week...but then he has been doing lots of travelling before we got together so perhaps its just another trip to him and not a big deal. Sparkling IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 1060 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 09, 2009 08:26 PM
I'm glad to hear you have an overt verbal agreement to not see other people...I doubt he is, then.I bet you just felt a little bad that going away for a week didn't feel like a big deal to him, even though it means not seeing each other for that time. IP: Logged |
SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 65 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 10, 2009 02:56 AM
Hi Lucia,Yes, that was a point to. But its all better now...we wrote to each other yesterday and I feel better about seeing him when he get back. Thanks for all your comments, its nice to feel there is a place to share! Sparkling IP: Logged |
SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 65 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 13, 2009 10:44 AM
Hey folks,He ended it!He didn't contact me when he got back on Sunday so I left it and texted him today to see if he wanted to meet for a quick drink after I finished work. To which he replied he is too busy with summer school and writing his dissertation so I said okay, is he too busy to see me tonight or at all? I had a bad feeling. Then he didn't give me a straight answer so I asked him to be honest. He then said he wanted to be friends. So then I replied nicely that was fine and see him around. So I bump into him on campus and ask him how his trip went. He said all he did alone for 5 days was sleep in his hotel roon, eat nice meals and have many Thai Massages!!!!!(which for Prague means prostitutes) So I looked at him and thought thank goodness he ended it cause otherwise I would have. My intution was right after all. Sparkling IP: Logged |
Cynnared Knowflake Posts: 267 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 13, 2009 11:12 AM
Double post and I'm gonna take a stab at this....just what I KNOW about sign characteristics and life......it's just a viewpoint here....and you can agree to disagree.....I'm a little apprehensive about posting lately! IP: Logged |
Cynnared Knowflake Posts: 267 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 13, 2009 11:26 AM
Hmmmmmm what comes to my mind about Scorpios is that they are intensely private about their lives and it takes a while till they even open up about stuff - even the simplest things. (It is a huge challenge to get SOME scorpios to say anything at all about their life. They'll sit and take it in and maybe let intuition guide them as to what next course of action he/she needs to take in regards to relations). It takes longer than a week for them for to reveal anything. Ah they are not as open as a Sag. I find for some folks trust needs to be earned and that is a long process in itself. It depends on just how long the Scorp has known the person as well....THIS IS WITH SOME SCORPS and I'm gonna strongly emphasize this cause some Scorps are really not like that at all.Any how this is what I found with MY OWN OBSERVATIONS! Casual friends for a year is different than actually spending time dating and getting to know you phase and opening up takes longer....it's the intimate detail.... On another note is sometimes I find how a person is, other people take great offense and sometimes make an issues that it's about them. For example, I am a quiet, reserved individual who doesn't talk that much and I'm happy just listening. (I've met many other quiet people and don't hold it against them and I have met highly outgoing talkative people and feel alright around them.) This one day my exboyfriend took me to visit his friend who was a very outgoing and open, fun loving person. We spent an evening together and I thought it was a good night....I was able to talk some astrology and connect a little. A day later I heard from my ex that I'm banned from this woman's house because in her eyes I appeared to be highly antisocial and she didn't want to be around me. I did socialize and engage in conversation in the visit. But there is a saying.....we view things as we are, not as how things actually are - The Talmud. IP: Logged |
SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 65 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 13, 2009 11:51 AM
Dear all,Thanks, but I don't feel so betrayed as it was only a "relationship" for a week! But I still feel right to have trusted my instinct. It is disrespectful to just leave and go somewhere and be with prostitutes when you were supposedly involved with someone. Sparkling IP: Logged |
Cynnared Knowflake Posts: 267 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 13, 2009 12:20 PM
I'm glad to see that you found out before hand what he was like at the start. An experience like that can raise a person's dating standards to a healthy level by knowing what exactly you don't want. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 1178 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 13, 2009 12:34 PM
I am sorry that happened to you.At least, it was only a week. It wasn't much longer. You can be with somebody else now. but I do want to point out something
Thai massage as well as massage in general isn't necessarily prostitution Unfortunately, there are masseuses/masseurs that do practice prostitution There are a lot of people that practice massage ethically,and they go to school for it. The education includes courses in anatomy and physiology. There are people that prefer the use of the term,massage therapist instead of masseuse/masseur
as a person who is certified in massage therapy from a 720 hour course and trained with others in massages,been trained by massage therapist, and know others that do massage/bodywork, I felt the need to point that out.
Thai massage is a type of massage in Thai style that involves stretching and deep massage. This form of bodywork is usually performed on the floor, and the client wears comfortable clothes that allow for movement. No oils are used in Thai massage. It is known in Thailand as "nuat phaen boran" (Thai: นวดแผนโบราณ, IPA: [nuɑt pʰɛn boraːn]), literally, the ancient-manner massage; or just "nuat phaen thai" (นวดแผนไทย . Thai massage originated in India and is based on Ayurveda and Yoga. It was believed that the massage art was brought over to Thailand by Shivago Komarpaj over 2500 years ago.
"Nuat boran" is the Thai name for a type of body work native to Thailand (nuat = pressure, boran = ancient). Thai massage is also known as northern-style Thai massage, Buntautuk style, Old Medicine Hospital Style, traditional Thai massage, Traditional Thai Medical Massage, Thai Yoga, Thai Yoga Massage, yoga massage, Thai classical massage, Thai bodywork, passive yoga, assisted yoga, and Ancient Siamese bodywork. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_massage
Raymond Registered Therapist Member of International Massage Association.
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SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 65 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 13, 2009 04:08 PM
Hi Glaucus,Thanks for your points and the valid point re: thai massage. Perhaps I jumped to a conclusion so thanks for clarifying what type of massage that is. I feel free now, now more messing around or mixed signals. I am okay Sparkling IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner Knowflake Posts: 1110 From: Toledo, OH Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 13, 2009 04:23 PM
look over your left shoulder, can you say...next.....lessons -trust your gut, bad feeling usually something is not right. warm fuzzy good feeling - usually nothing is wrong... so the real question you answered is can i trust my instincts - resoundeing YES all around. and, one to remember. the more we learn to trust our instints in any given situation the better off we will be. who wants to with someone who is in prague and doesnt leave his room for a week anyway. BORING. or LIAR. either way you can and will do better. brush that dirt off your shoulders.
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SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 65 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 13, 2009 04:43 PM
Thanks, you are right...I had a bad feeling all week and wasn't sure if I was insecure or unsure of a the new relationship. Maybe a bit of both. Gut instinct is a funny thing..today he wanted to avoid the situation but I pushed for honesty as I don't like to play games and something was telling me to push it. I'd asked him too if he could pick some pretty painted ornament eggs that they sell in Prague and Hungary etc. I'd been to Prague so now how small the city is and that these eggs are everywhere. I asked him nicely via email if he could pick these up and i'd pay him the money. He replied to say he didn't like to shop in tourist places so I asked him just to try and that they are easy to get.When I saw him today, I asked if he'd been able to get them. He said no, he tried the day before he left but didn't have time. (from the guy who was supposedly chilling in his hotel room for 5 days?). So i told him that sounded like an excuse. oh well, nothing lost really. I am free to explore and be with someone who treats me well. Sparkling IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner Knowflake Posts: 1110 From: Toledo, OH Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 13, 2009 04:46 PM
good attitude sparlking sag....and you just called your future. you will find someone who treats you well. no second guessing. IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 1060 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 13, 2009 04:51 PM
I think the lesson for all of us from this thread is INSTINCTS ARE RIGHT. They may not be exact, as in, maybe the guy wasn't getting a "happy ending" kind of massage.But SparklingSag's instincts were right about the important part--how the Scorp was feeling about their new relationship, and where he was going with it. SparklingSag, you were so cool to insist on clarity instead of just letting him use weird excuses and offer no closure! I have a lot to learn from Sag women about coolness and self-esteem. (My NN is in Sag, and my draconic Sun-Merc-Mars are Saggie too.) IP: Logged |
SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 65 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 13, 2009 05:01 PM
Dear cpn_edgar_winner and Lucia,Thank you for the good vibes and support! You are right, this a thread about feeling good, not bad. I will not feel bad about the situation as I did nothing wrong. I've learnt from a previous love affair with a guy that lasted two years cause I was too afraid of the answers and so ignored all the bad signs and behaviour. So am proud that ive come a long way! I was a strong woman today that demanded to be treated well and with respect and instincts are something to be listened too. Lucia, you make a valid point that I might not have been spot on but I think the inner voice is powerful when it needs to be. So yeah, its a day to be proud of myself. Sparkling IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 1060 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 13, 2009 05:28 PM
My goal for this eclipse period is going to be to get in touch with my inner Sag Woman.(Have you guys read GypseeWind's thread in Soul Unions about seizing the moment? Inspiring.) IP: Logged |
SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 65 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 13, 2009 05:35 PM
Great thread on Soul Unions...sums this thread right up :-)IP: Logged |
SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 65 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 14, 2009 06:37 AM
Am feeling very happy today! Despite the rain in the UK...Sparkling IP: Logged |
wheels of cheese Knowflake Posts: 540 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 14, 2009 07:07 AM
Atta girl. Proud of you. IP: Logged |