posted August 08, 2009 05:22 PM            

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She even has Sun in 21'59 Gemini in 12th,Neptune in 5th, Pluto in 22'54 Leo,Niger in 23'26 Leo in minor grand trine. That could indicate having children with a black man.

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posted August 08, 2009 05:31 PM            

but he was black, African American

actually a Black Creole man born in New Orleans Louisiana of Black,French,Native American ancestry. He looked pretty much like a black man...especially with medium to dark brown skin.

the name of an asteroid doesn't have to be taken too literally
the same with any object

they can be taken symbolically ...especially if there are strong archetypes in the case of mythological deities with the planets,Sun,Moon,some asteroids,some transneptunians

they can work with names that are close
people that work with asteroids have already demonstrated that on the forum
including me

for instance, Laurentia also works for my father's name Lawrence, and not just Larry and Lawrence.

you've seen people that use the asteroid,Destinn to work as destiny

I am well aware that Niger is name of a country in Africa and Nigeria is also name of a country in Africa. I believe that you have pointed that out to me before.

Niger can work with just using that to refer to people of being African descent as well as the racial slur, "nigger". It definitely works in my case

a matter of fact, I had a Niger transit at the time I was first called "nigger" for the very first time by a school mate on my 9th birthday. She was a blue eyed blonde girl who was the same age as me. She was born on October 13th,and I was born on October 29th. She has 2 sisters. One of them actually liked black guys a lot and even came onto me. It was aspecting my Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd house.

transiting Niger was in 1'37 Virgo in my 12th house in opposition to my Moon in 3'11 Pisces, and square my Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius in 3rd.

I would say straight up that initiated me into the Black American experience too.

what is ironic is the same girl that called me a "nigger" ended up having a son by a black guy. One of her sisters also had children by black guys,but that wasn't a surprise. After all, she was into black guys.

I have used these asteroids to look at race relations matters,and they seem to work. Asteroid Sociological Astrology.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 08, 2009 05:45 PM            

i wish i could describe or pinpoint what it is in my chart that would reveal okay you prefer foreigners, but i think for me it's my personal experience and background that makes it natural for me to go for a foreigner.

and you're right. i too hate it when they say barack obama is the first black president and don't address the fact that he also represents the change in today's generation that lots of kids are born of different races.

i already read his book many years before he was even considered a presidential candidate and was like a rock star. i get fascinated by books about multiracial people and even celebrities because i just wanna know how their experiences were like growing up and how they feel about it. i think wentworth miller put it best when he said it's like you're the lone ranger. you kind of don't belong in any one community.

i took a history class about race where we learned about the one drop rule or what is it...1/16 to be considered black? i think that's ludicrious.

i think nobody knows how it feels like to be born like this and to be reminded how you look different all the time unless they were born like this as well. maybe confused is not the right word but like...it does feel awkward when you look around at your other relatives or other people in your race and you don't look like them and you're reminded how you don't look like them all the time.

posted August 08, 2009 06:03 PM            

I admit that if humanoid aliens came to Earth, I'd probably marry a humanoid alien woman even if she has green hair like Miriya Parina in Robotech. However, if she tries to kill me, I am not going to marry her. That's what Max Sterling did.!

My Moon,Venus aspected to transneptunians fit my anima in attraction to "far out" women.

yep...I love Robotech. I got the Macross Saga DVD set back in 2005.

hahahahaha

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted August 08, 2009 06:28 PM            

The fact that its been used to define a racial slur sits very uneasy with me. I was called a Ni**er once & did not receive any transits to or from the asteroid at that time.

I guess when I see the word "Niger" the country/people and great river that flows through West Africa not a racial slur spat at blacks by half brained sub-normal racists. The word holds no connotations for me whatsoever.

posted August 08, 2009 07:26 PM            

I get asked the most annoying questions: “What are you?” “Are you from one of the Islands?” “You look, uh, Polynesian…?” “Are you mixed?” “Are you part Asian?” “Is that your real hair?” "Can I touch your hair?" “Are you Latina? You look Latina.” People will randomly start speaking Spanish to me (at least I know a little!), when I put the first picture of myself online about 11 years ago I got a flood of emails from guys in India, a stylist who did my eyebrows said to me “Is your father Asian? You have Asian eyes” (she knew my mom), my sister calls me her “Hawaiian sister”.

I have light skin, very high cheekbones, sloe-eyed and med-long thick hair (that grows like a weed) so that raises some (unnecessary) questions.

I am black. I don’t go into my entire family tree because really it is not the random person on the street’s business and it is kind of obnoxious to have to explain. My mother is mixed – she is half white (Irish and German mother), half black (Afr.Am and Blackfoot NA father) and my dad is black (Afr.Am. father and black Creole and NA mother).

Back to the dating though: I think it has a lot to do with where and how you grew up. My entire family, both sides, is rural or suburban. I don’t have any relatives that “act black” in that very racist and stereotypical way that people like to categorize how we act according to our race. There are lots of Bohos, Buppies and Blippys but really no “homeboys/girls”. Interracial dating runs rampant in my family on both sides. I didn’t realize this until I attended a cousin’s wedding last year in upstate NY (a black man who was marrying a white woman!) and I noticed that there were so many interracial couples out on the dance floor– actually, most were of the BW/WM variety. This is even the case with my southern relatives, in Georgia, Texas and Alabama, lots of BW/WM couples. “New South” indeed!

I grew up in suburbia, listening to rock music, watching John Hughes movies (RIP), being one of three black kids in school. That was hard also - I don’t know how my divorced mom could afford to live in that school district – I was also the poorest kid in school! If anybody knows who Aisha Tyler is and has watched her comedy special – we have so much in common (Even the height thing - "Hey tiny white girls!! Come back and play with me!!”) It wasn’t until jr. high school that the school got more mixed and that is when the hell started for me. Black classmates, boys and girls, with the “you talk like a white girl”, “she thinks she’s cute”, blah, blah, bleh.

I just naturally gravitated towards the white guys and they gravitate toward me.

There is an issue with that though, stopandstare reminded me of it – the fine line between natural attraction or what I say is “personal preference” and fascination or fetish. When interracial, intercultural, interfaith dating we have to watch out for those fetishist who are just into the difference and not the person. It is easy to figure out who is who though…

Now I have to put my entire extended family into Astro!!!

ETA: I have Mars in Gemini – you are killing me Deliverance! LOL

posted August 08, 2009 07:41 PM              

I've never really thought about gender or race or religion X_X..If I am interested in you these things don't matter to me.

Lol, I was attracted to my ex neo-nazi Capricorn friend..I knew he was suppose to be racist but I felt that he wasn't serious about it.

Though the older I am getting I prefer girls more and more..

If people ever gave me a hard time about the people I am dating I say "Worry about yourself and stop worrying about me.."

I only have Mars in my 9th house.

posted August 08, 2009 08:31 PM            

and yes you put it so greatly when you say it's a fine line between something that's natural and some sort of weird fetish. yuck. i hate that word.

and yes you are so right. you can so tell when it's just such that. i am definitely guarded against men who are like that. you can tell because they're usually very aggressive and in your face. i hate aggressive men and in particular strangers who just walk up to me and start talking to me. it's like get away from me. to be honest, i get grossed out by it. it makes me want to vomit.

posted August 08, 2009 10:12 PM            

I think the furthest I've gone is the Southern guy whow as recent crush.

The only thing I can think of in my chart is Jupiter in the 5th and my chart ruler conjuncted by Uranus.

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I'm also not sure why it would be used to define people of African decent. To the best of my knowledge Niger & Nigeria were not the only countries where slaves where stolen from; other countries including Ghana, the Ivory Coast, Togo & Angola were also robbed of their people.

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I don't think it has anything to do with the Niger river, actually. I think the slur just came from the Latin/Spanish word for 'black'. O__o

posted August 08, 2009 10:29 PM            

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I think the slur just came from the Latin/Spanish word for 'black'

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That is correct Benedict_Moon...

posted August 08, 2009 10:31 PM            

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:I'm also not sure why it would be used to define people of African decent. To the best of my knowledge Niger & Nigeria were not the only countries where slaves where stolen from; other countries including Ghana, the Ivory Coast, Togo & Angola were also robbed of their people.

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I don't think it has anything to do with the Niger river, actually. I think the slur just came from the Latin/Spanish word for 'black'. O__o

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Yes, I know the word Ni**er is a derivative the word of Negro. I'm not disputing that point.

The quote I made above was in response to the following statement:

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Niger can work with just using that to refer to people of being African descent

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IMO asteroid Niger is named after the country called Niger or the river Niger (both pronounced Neejeer). Why would the asteroid Niger point to people being of African decent when there are many other counties in Africa to choose from, why is it that one asteroid (unless the person is specifically from Niger on countries directly connected to the river Niger)? Wouldn't African decent be relevant to asteroid "Negro", "Africano" or asteroid "Black"?

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ETA: I have Mars in Gemini – you are killing me Deliverance! LOL

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posted August 09, 2009 01:47 AM            

I already explained

" the name of an asteroid doesn't have to be taken too literally the same with any object

they can be taken symbolically ...especially if there are strong archetypes in the case of mythological deities with the planets,Sun,Moon,some asteroids,some transneptunians

they can work with names that are close
people that work with asteroids have already demonstrated that on the forum
including me"

I already made an example

for instance

somebody used the the asteroid,Destinn to mean destiny

the word, Blanco can be used for white even though it's named in honor of Carlo Blanco. It doesn't mean that the asteroid only means Carlo Blanco. It's spanish,portuguese for white.
the asteroid, white definitely works for white. The sucker is right on my Moon just like I knew it would be because my Mom is white and fits with my anima in regards to white women.

Venusia is named after a city, but that doesn't mean that it can be used to pertain to love.

take family for instance, there is an asteroid named Lucia, but I use it for Lucy which is the name of my aunt. I have it trine my Moon which makes sense for she's related to me on my mother's side.

I used the asteroid, Everhart for Everett for my maternal grandfather,and it works.

There is an asteroid called, Concordia and it works for Concord which is capital of New Hampshire, but also a city in California.

there is an asteroid,unitas can work for unity

there is an asteroid called unitednations, and it seems to work for multiracial,interracial. It doesn't mean just the the United Nations itself. I have the sucker on my Antivertex (an auxilliary ascendant).

another example

I use the name, Raimonda for my name, Raymond
it's close to my name. It's just Italian feminine version of my name. the asteroids,Rayman work to...even Andraimon works..also Raymundto....even though it's not my exact name,Raymond

there is an asteroid named Goretti, but it seems to work well for Gore as in Al Gore.

the asteroid,Nasi seems to work for Nazi

asteroids, astrowizard and stargazer seem to work for Astrology even though the astronomers didn't name them for Astrology.
Astrowizard was named in honor of a certain astronomer.

well...that's how Niger can work.

asteroids aren't necessarily meant to be taken so literally .......so you don't have to have an exact spelling of an asteroid to mean a certain thing.

asteroids with close spelling and mean can work for certain concepts

I am well aware that Niger and Nigeria weren't the only countries in Africa that slaves came from. I am not ignorant. I do read.

like I said again, I used the word, Niger because it's close to the spelling of the racial slur.

I did have Niger transit when I was first called the n'word. It validated my hunch about the use of the asteroid for the concept.

I have had a whole lot of other hunches about asteroids that have been confirmed.

"Wouldn't African decent be relevant to asteroid "Negro", "Africano" or asteroid "Black"?"

Yes...I have used those asteroids too,and I already mentioned the asteroids, Africa,Africano,Black,and Negron in my my post. Not just Niger. Niger also works for Black, African descendant as the racial slur n'word.

there is a flexibility and pattern-seeing that is involved in Asteroid Astrology...of course,that's involved in Astrology too.

there is flexibility and pattern-seeking involved.

Astrology isn't meant to be taken literally

just because a planet is named Neptune, doesn't mean that it's only about the seagod nor isn't just about the seas that he rules.

just like I explained about Eris before

just because the name is Eris, doesn't mean that it is only about Eris nor about being discord. I didn't get why people focused so much on Eris' meaning being discord,controversy,troublemaking just because of it was named after the Goddess of Discord. It's a big object..larger than Pluto,and so it should have more meanings than that. When you look deeply into the archetypes as well as consider the astronomical,orbital features of Eris, you understand its astrological meaning. That's with any object. You don't just go by its name. You can get clues by its orbit...the placement of its north node and perihelion at the time of discovery.

Pluto is named after the God of the underworld,but its meaning is not just the underworld. It has all kinds of meanings.

I remember Peri try to make a point about my signature
in regards to Eris

about how Eris ignited discord,and she only focused on the discord

She missed the overall point of Eris about the theme of diversity,divergence

like Michael Brown said
Eris made people quarrel and fight by making them think that their opinions are right and others are wrong.

the whole point was that the transentpunian,Eris seems to be be about diversity...the tolerance/intolerance of diversity, divergence

Eris is like......just because a person says something that you don't agree with, doesn't mean that they are wrong nor stupid or ignorant. That tends to be a problem on our planet. Many of us humans think that we are right and others are wrong or that we have the truth and others don't. That's what leads to wars....even World Wars. You see a lot of this in religion,politics.

I am not really good at explaining stuff, especially if I get frustrated. I am predominantly a picture thinker,and so it's not easy for me to explain what I am thinking or what I am meaning.

Iqhunk is the best asteroid astrologer on this forum, and he could explain what I am trying to explain much better than I can.

The use of asteroids is approached from a right brain way. Therefore, it's not something that you take linearly nor literally. It's like you get a hunch,intuition,feeling about what the asteroid means. Meditating on it can help. The same with the Sabian Symbols.

I have seen people use asteroids with Sabian Symbols.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 09, 2009 02:43 AM            

"Currently names are chosen by astronomers meeting at Harvard's Smithsonian Astrophysics Institute. Naming asteroids is perhaps the only time an astronomer relates what's up there to what's down here on Earth. Asteroids thus can form a bridge between the astronomical and astrological communities!

Since the names work so well, could it be that the asteroid carries its own name? A name can be reduced to the vibration of specific wave patterns. Our astrological knowledge of aspects and harmonics, based on the vibrational patterns of numbers, confirms that certain aspects resonate with one another, and that planets in resonant aspects interact with each other. Perhaps the physical properties of the asteroid: its name, apparent shape, chemical composition, spectroscopes, and orbit carry a vibrational frequency, a sound, the discoverer unconsciously connects with a name.

Since so few astronomers understand astrology or the archetypical power of names, is their seeming arbitrary naming the factor in creating the vibration? Or is the vibration already there, waiting to be acknowledged, and so strong that the asteroid itself dictates its name to the astronomer via the circuitry of the unconscious mind that links one to the holographic mysteries of the universe? The sounds of names ascribed by these astronomers carry a cycle of meaning relating to events and experiences far beyond the meaning intended by the scientists who named them.

Are all the named asteroids useful in an individual horoscope? No, not all of them. If so, then one could rationalize anything. The ones useful are those asteroids with names relevant to the individual or event or time. Is the arbitrary, if not whimsical, way astronomers select names for the asteroids not part of the mix too? At the present time, we have no explanation for how they could be, but then we have no good explanation how planets work either, or how aspirin removes pain, how bumblebees fly, or how flying hummingbirds remain still. Oh sure, there are theories for all of these phenomena. Even light, that's always been around, has at least six competing theories to describe it now. Sometimes simplicity is best.

Asteroid names are used that sound like the names of people and places represented on earth with names of similar spelling or sound. And asteroids typically don't move fast, so that errors in the birth time within a day are not likely to matter more than one degree of arc in measurement.

The further we stray from symbolism, and the more we veer to simplicity and directness, the less our critics can cite our astrological abilities being based upon rationalizations explaining everything and making everything correlate. Respect comes from specificity and making long shot predictions that materialize. When this writer saw asteroid Busch joining asteroid Washingtonia at the 2000 and 2004 presidential elections, the outcome was clear. But the prominence of a Gore-like asteroid Goretti then indicated popular support, and so the prediction by this writer of a Gore popular victory with a Bush electoral victory in the election, published months before in New Visions Magazine.

We could go on and on."
http://www.astrologynyc.org/ncgrnyc-articleh.html

please note:

"Asteroid names are used that sound like the names of people and places represented on earth with names of similar spelling or sound."

That's what I explained earlier.

posted August 09, 2009 03:34 AM            

that's Awesome!

Right On!

so committed relationships with multiracial/multicultural people or interracial/intercultural relationships in general.

you know that it doesn't necessarily mean have a committed relationship with somebody from the United Nations.

you know that asteroids aren't meant to be taken so literally and linearly.

after all, planets aren't

asteroid nodes work too

all objects have nodes
it's not just the Moon that has nodes
planets have nodes
asteroids have nodes
centaurs have nodes
comets have nodes
transneptunians have nodes

The Larousse 'Encyclopedia of Astrology' defines the Nodes as "Any pair of points marking the intersection of two planetary orbits, especially the orbit of the Earth (that is, the Ecliptic) and that of another planet or the Moon. Nodes are four-dimensional aspects. They express the range of all possible positions of two planets over time rather than relating their momentary position, as do ordinary aspects. http://www.astrologycosmobiology.com.au/planetary_nodes.html

it's an astronomical mathematical concept.

Astronomy is a big part of Astrology. astronomical calculations are part of Astrology.

astronomers do calculate the nodes of objects.

heliocentric nodes of all objects move up to 1 degree per century...so they are collective karma energies.

geocentric nodes move considerably faster....especially the nodes of Mercury,Venus,Mars, and the asteroids that don't orbit past Mars.

they can be about personal karma

when it comes to geocentric nodes, the north and south nodes aren't exactly opposite each other like the heliocentric nodes are

so take UnitedNations for example

in my chart:

UnitedNations in 15'10 Leo in 11th/12th
oppose/conjunct my Vertex/Antivertex axis in 14'58 Aquarius/Leo in 5th and 11th houses
conjunct Ceres in 13'57 Leo in 11th/12th
sextile 6th house ruler Uranus in 15'17 Libra in 2nd

Geocentric North UnitedNations Node in 5'17 Gemini in 9th
conjunct 5th/6th house ruler Saturn in 5'08 Gemini R in 9th
quincunx 12th house ruler Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd/3rd

Geocentric South UnitedNations Node in 17'56 Scorpio in 3rd
conjunct 1st/10th house ruler Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio in 3rd

Heliocentric UnitedNations Nodes in 22'14 Taurus/Scorpio in 9th and 3rd houses
oppose/conjunct 2nd/9th house ruler Venus in 21'47 Scorpio in 3rd

so it seems that I have both strong personal and strong collective karma in regards to multiracial/multicultural,interracial/intercultural.

it really does seem to say that being multiracial/multicultural,interracial/intercultural relating,harmony is part of my karmic and evolutionary lessons that will help me with my soul growth.

you can calculate nodes here
http://www.true-node.com/pos/

I really like Evolutionary Asteroid Astrology.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 09, 2009 04:23 AM            

That Mars in Gemini is also trine the North Lunar Node in 9th house and square the 9th house ruler,Mercury.

also her Moon in 8th squares the heliocentric Eris Nodes in Taurus/Scorpio
the reason why I know that is the Heliocentric Eris Nodes have been between 5 and 6 degrees Taurus/Scorpio for a century.

Her Moon in 8th squares Uranus-Chiron opposition

her Venus in 7th squares Pluto-North Lunar Node in 9th house.

Her Venus in 7th is also quincunx retro Neptune in Sagittarius.
an outerplanet in sign placement can be significant when its aspected by a personal planet,angle.

Her Venus in 7th trines Uranus.

so there seem to more interracial indicators besides Mars in Gemini.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 09, 2009 05:04 AM            

After all the story of the Tower of Babel was about how God made people speak in different languages which created communication problems and confusion between people.

Many anti-racemixing people that believe in the Bible used that Tower of Babel bible passage to explain their beliefs against race mixing leading to anti-miscegenation laws.

therefore, it makes sense for the asteroid,Babel to work for interracial,intercultural,interfaith relationships

In my own chart:

Babel' in 6'17 Aquarius in 5th
trine 5th/6th house ruler Saturn in 5'08 Gemini R in 9th
square 12th house ruler Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd/3rd

Geocentric North Babel' Node in 8'45 Virgo in 12th
square 4th/7th house ruler Jupiter in 8'17 Sagittarius in 3rd

Geocentric South Babel' Node in 2'39 Aquarius in 5th
sextile 7th house ruler Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius in 3rd
semisextile Moon in 3'11 Pisces in 6th

Heliocentric Babel' Nodes in 24'03 Leo/Aquarius in 12th/6th houses

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 09, 2009 10:56 AM            

I work in an environment where I meet people from all over the world everyday. Let me tell you, I have met INCREDIBLY beautiful women from EVERY country and every race! I don't care what color or culture you are from, as long as we can get along, we are a go!

posted August 09, 2009 12:37 PM            

i refrained from posting in this thread cuz i didn't know what to say. maybe because i myself is a wandering spirit, the notion of the differences in racial or cultural or beliefs fail to resister in my head.

if any difference of opinions are there between me and the other, i just conclude it as a gap in personal preferences (it IS a personal choice to have religious or any beliefs when it comes down to it, and it is likely that i will not come into contact with certain types of people who are largely incompatible with me to begin with)

posted August 09, 2009 01:21 PM            

asteroids can be used in so many ways.

asteroids can have numerous meanings regardless of where they got their names.

It's definitely the same for planets,but too a much wider extent to the point that planetary aspects can be vague,
but asteroid fine-tune because they are more specific.

For instance if a person has Moon conjunct Neptune, and his asteroid,Beer is square that....then that can finetune the meaning of the aspect that maybe the mother drank a lot

If Moon conjunct Neptune,and his asteroid, Spirit was trine Neptune, then that can finetune the meaning of the aspect that maybe the mother was spiritual.

maybe he has both,and has a mother that is spiritual but drinks a lot.

I agree to disagree.

I am not going to get into arguments nor debates with you about it.

I don't know why Niger didn't work for you in regards to racial
but it did work for me,

heck Niger was not only square my Neptune, it was also square my secondary mercury that was right on my Neptune too when I was first called the n'word. There was a grand trine of Mercury,Uranus,and Niger when Michael Richards went on his rant,repeatedly using the n'word. Just a coincidence. I don't think.

there could have also been declination transits, right ascension transits, declination longitude equivalent transits at the time that you were called that.

the sky isn't just ecliptic longitude.

I also looked at Tiger Wood's chart. His Saturn aspects Niger,but his father isn't from Nigeria nor Niger. His father is mixed with Black though.

in my mom's chart, Sun sextile Niger in 3rd can fit her animus in regards to her attraction to black men. also her half siblings are much darker than her because my mom's stepmother's mother was Puerto Rican but she was dark that it was obvious that there was considerable Black in her. My mom's siblings were called the n'word too. My mother told me that she was once called the n'word by some white schoolmates after seeing her halfsiblings.

in my father's chart
using noon ..no time on birth certificate

His Niger is in 3'58 Aquarius
oppose Pluto in 3'39 Leo R
square Saturn in 7'56 Taurus Stationary
square Jupiter in 5'41 Taurus Stationary
trine/sextile Lunar Nodes in 5'35 Libra/Aries

Saturn disposits his Sun-Mercury conjunction in Capricorn

Jupiter disposits his Moon in Pisces,
using Jupiter as co-ruler of Pisces along with Neptune

so both his Sun and Moon dispositors are stationary and aspect Niger.

stationary objects are strong energies,and so he has a strong Jupiter influence and strong Saturn influence...the aspects involving Saturn and Jupiter are stronger compared to people that have Jupiter and Saturn not stationary.

His Niger even trines my Saturn in 5'08 Gemini R in 8th and square my Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd/3rd
which can reflect my inheriting my black ancestry from him..especially physical features that make people know that I am part black.

coincidence...no

synchronicity..yes

Astrology is about synchronicity same with other divinations like Numerology,Tarot,Runes,Iching

like I said before, asteroids can mean certain things in a person's chart and mean something in another's chart

just like planets....not everybody with strong Neptune aspects are psychics,but some are...not everybody with strong Neptune aspects are alcoholics,but some are....not everybody with strong Neptune aspects are mentally ill, but some are.

that's with any heavenly body

I am not going to get into into debate nor argument.

there are other people on this forum that use asteroids of similar spelling,sound for a concept even though the asteroid wasn't named for that concept like I already explained and showed the point of Dr. Jacob Schwartz.

so get on their butts and not just mine!

I am not going to let political correctness keep me from doing certain Astrological methods,posts.

I wouldn't care if somebody used USA as racial slur. I don't get offended by stuff like that. I get offended by the use of any racial slurs against all people.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.