posted August 09, 2009 04:18 PM            

if an asteroid or anything else works for that matter, why not use it

if there is no asteroid that is exact, then an asteroid that is close to the spelling,sound is used, that's how Astrology Astrology tends to be used. Jacob Schwartz explained that.

I don't see why political correctness has to get in the way of Asteroid Astrology.

why should a person do anything

I don't use words like should
I use words like could

people have their freedom to use astrology that works for them

I am not going to let people tell me what I should do or should not be done. vice versa

it's not like they own Astrology
I certainly don't.

Good Grief!

also names like Raimonda,Rayman,Andraimon,Raymundto work for me with my name being Raymond
even Rayhe for that matter

names like Everhart work for my grandfather,Everett

Davida worked for my stepfather,David
Laurentia worked for my father,Lawrence.

there are so many other examples.

it even works with the asteroid nodes

I have Sun conjunct Rayhe Node and Laurentia Node

I have a heliocentric Rayman node conjunct my Ascendant

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 09, 2009 05:05 PM            

I was trying to think of the Sun signs that I know personally prefer to participate in inter-dating. That would be Leo, Taurus, Capricorn and Scorpio. In my experience I have dated other signs but I was usually their “intro to interracial dating” (something I don't like to be), the Leos, Bulls, Caps and Scorps I know seem to have a "personal preference". Here are some celeb examples, there are many more but these are a few:

Robert Deniro (Leo) & Grace Hightower
Seal (Aquarius) & Heidi Klum (Gemini)
Halle Berry (Leo) & Gabriel Aubry (Capricorn)
Ben Affleck (Leo) & Jennifer Lopez (Leo)
Iman (Leo) & David Bowie (Capricorn)
Tiger Woods (Capricorn) & Elin Nordegren (Capricorn)
Eva Longoria (Pisces) & Tony Parker (Taurus)
Paula Patton (Sagittarius) & Robin Thicke (Pisces)
Kim Kardashian (Libra) & Reggie Bush (Pisces)
Ice T (Aquarius) & Coco (Pisces)
Cuba Gooding (Cancer) & wife
Taye Diggs (Capricorn) & Idina Mendel (Gemini)
Aisha Tyler (Virgo) & Jeff Tietjens
George Lucas (Taurus) & Mellody Hobson (Aries)
Wolfgang Puck (Cancer) & Gelila Assefa
Roger Ebert (Gemini) & Chaz Hammelsmith
Ellen Pompeo (Scorpio) & Chris Ivery
Garcelle Beauvais (Sagittarius) & Mike Nilon
Emma Bunton (Aquarius) & Jade Jones (Capricorn)
Justin Chambers (Cancer) and his wife, Keisha
Alfre Woodard (Scorpio) & Roderick Spencer
Chris Noth (Scorpio) & Various women
Naomi Campbell (Gemini) & Adam Clayton (Pisces) (plus all of her various “dates”)
Grace Jones (Taurus) & Dolph Lundgren (Scorpio)
Prince (Gemini) & Various Women
Boris Becker (Scorpio) & Barbara Feltus (Scorpio)
Zoe Kravitz (Sagittarius) and Ben Foster(Scorpio)
Matthew Modine (Pisces) & wife
Brigitte Nielsen (Cancer) & Flavor Flav (Pisces) LOL

This is not the definitive list so I don't want this to turn into a "what about _____ & _____?" thread, these are just some obvious ones.

posted August 09, 2009 05:08 PM            

I wanted to explain why I believe Eris figures more into multiracial,multicultural,interracial,intercultural than Uranus and Jupiter does as my belief that is a planet of race relations.

I wrote this back in 2007

THE DISCOVERY OF ERIS

I kept finding Eris in significant aspects in charts of Black Equal Rights issues,,Civil Rights issues, that I had to wonder if Eris' discovery is connected to Black Equal Rights,Civil Rights issues in any way. I wonder if it has to do with the racism and political correctness involving Blacks and Whites. I also wonder if it has to do with racial division between Blacks and Whites as well as the struggle for interracial harmony. Eris could be the planet of race relations. I checked the asteroids pertaining to Blacks and Whites in Eris Discovery Chart.

The Discovery of Eris was January 5, 2005
Pasadena, California
11:20 AM

source: http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~mbrown/planetlila/

I used the asteroids, 11207 Black,1193 Africa,6391 Africano,8766 Niger,10730 White,4478 Blanco
I also added 3811 Karma because I believe that Eris is a very karmic planet.

Sun in 15'34 Capricorn
Niger in 16'17 Capricorn
Africano in 19'57 Capricorn
Karma in 20'11 Libra
Eris in 19'45 Aries Stationary Direct (I say that being stationary during its discovery is very significant)
Jupiter in 17'43 Libra

Mars in 7'40 Sagittarius
South Eris Node in 7'17 Scorpio
Part of Fortune in 6'39 Aquarius
Midheaven in 6'44 Capricorn
Africa in 5'42 Capricorn
North Eris Node in 5'22 Taurus
Uranus in 4'06 Pisces
Blanco in 3'45 Capricorn
Black in 3'51 Aries
Antivertex in 4'42 Aries
White in 4'05 Libra
Vertex in 4'42 Libra

Ascendant in 11'16 Aries
Moon in 10'57 Scorpio
Ceres in 9'51 Scorpio

Pluto in 22'54 Sagittarius
Mercury in 24'12 Sagittarius
Venus in 25'07 Sagittarius
Saturn in 24'33 Cancer
Chiron in 25'58 Capricorn

Minor Aspects:
Uranus semisquare Eris - '39
Uranus semisquare Africano - '51
(Uranus,Eris,and Africano in 8th harmonic trangle.....Uranus conjunct Eris/Africano midpoint)

Mercury semisquare Ceres - '40
Venus semisquare Ceres - '16

Declinations:
Eris 5'51 South
Jupiter 5'44 South
(note they are also in opposition, and so its a Eris-Jupiter occultation)

Black 0'34 North
White 0'53 South
(on the equator) objects on equator are strong energies
(they are also in opposition, and so its a Black-White occultation)

Mercury 22'21 South
Venus 22'48 South
Sun 22'31 South
Niger 21'45 South
Mars 21'29 South
Saturn in 21'12 North
(Sun is also conjunct Niger.....therefore Sun-Niger occultation)

Karma 11'19 South
South Node 11'03 South

here is phrase that I remember by Rodney King after the 1992 Los Angeles Riots that resulted from the acquittal of the white policemen that were tried for police brutality with some of them later convicted for violating King's civil rights.

"People, I just want to say, you know, can we all get along?"

All of us getting along is what I consider the ultimate karmic lesson, and I believe that's what Eris is here to teach us.

indicated by the Eris Discovery Chart's
T-Square of Africano square the opposition of Stationary Direct Eris in 1st and Karma in Libra in 7th minutes of arc

It is said that human life began in Africa. So maybe the t-square indicates the karmic lessons to help us recognize our common origins of having roots in Africa for all of us our human beings..

The T-Square of Midheaven-Africa-Blanco in Capricorn square the opposition of Black-Antivertex in Aries in 1st and White-Vertex in 7th

Peace

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted August 09, 2009 05:10 PM            

Tiger Woods is an American professional golfer who is considered of the most successful golfers all time.
Woods has won 13 professional major golf championships, the second-most of any male player, and 61 PGA Tour events, the fifth-most of all time. He is the first black and the first asian golfer to win the Masters. He has more career major wins and career PGA Tour wins than any other active golfer. He was a prodigy who started playing golf at the age of 2.

Woods, who is multiethnic, has helped generate a great multicutural interest in Golf. Tiger's father is half African American, 1/4 Native American,and 1/4 Chinese. His mother is half Thai, 1/4 Chinese,and 1/4 Dutch. He defies the "one drop rule"(If you have any black in you,you're black) and refers to his ethnic make-up as Cablinasian (a portmanteau term he coined from Caucasian, Black, American-Indian, and Asian). Woods is a Buddhist. He has said that his faith was acquired from his mother and that it helps control both his stubbornness and impatience. He is an interracial marriage with Elin Nordegren, a Swedish model,and they have a daughter named Sam Alexis Woods.

Tiger has established several charities and youth projects. Tiger Woods Foundation's main focus to help disadvantaged children to become better people. In The City Golf Clinics is a three-day junior golf event includes tickets to Disney Resorts; a pitch, putt and drive skills tournament; a junior golf clinic; and an exhibition by Tiger Woods. As part of the junior golf clinics, TWF works with the Make-A-Wish Foundation to bring at least one Make-A-Wish child to each clinic. These children are given the opportunity to meet Tiger, take some photos with him and talk to him about anything they choose. Tiger Woods Learning Center Tiger Woods Learning Center is educational facility that includes day program for grades 4 to 6 and an after school program for grades 7 to 12, summer programs, weekend and community outreach programs and online learning programs,and feature extensive multi-media facilities and an outdoor golf teaching area.
Tiger Jam is an annual fundraising concert which has raised over $10 million for the Tiger Woods Foundation. Target World Challenge: An annual off-season charity golf tournament. The event also carries generous prize money, but Woods donates his winnings to his foundation. Tiger Woods Foundation National Junior Golf Team is an eighteen member team which competes in the annual Junior World Golf Championships. Woods has also participated in charity work for his current caddy, Steve Williams. On April 24, 2006 Woods won an auto racing event that benefited the Steve Williams Foundation to raise funds to provide sporting careers for disadvantaged youth.

birthdata:
December 30, 1975
Cypress, California
10:50 pm

So I checked Eris in regards to race relations,ethnic diversity, and advocacy.

I also checked the ethnic asteroids 11207 Black,1193 Africa,6391 Africano,8766 Niger,10730 White,4478 Blanco

also....1125 China,1236 Thais

Jupiter in 15'29 Aries in 7th
Eris in 12'54 Aries Stationary Direct in 7th
Black in 12'05 Aries in 7th
Neptune in 12'30 Sagittarius in 3rd
Pluto in 11'39 Libra in 1st

(planet that is stationary direct is a strong planetary energy, Eris is such a slow moving planet, that it is rare for Eris to be stationary, and so can be a very significant placement......all the aspects to Eris would be much stronger. Tiger Woods is a person who defies the status quo in regards to the outdated "one drop" rule for blacks and symbol of ethnic diversity with his own multiethnic background,interracial marriage with Elin, and their child as well. He has broken the color barrier to winning the Masters and getting more ethnic minorities in golf leading to the perception that golf is not just for white people as it is being dominated by a person of a color.

Eris quintile Midheaven - '49 could be an indicator of his diverse heritage and advocacy
(same aspect as black/white actress, Halle Berry who is also a Diabetes advocate stemming from her own Diabetes)..his aspect is much strong with his Eris being stationary

Venus sesquiquadrate Eris - '38 could reflect his interracial marriage....especially with the stationary Eris in the 7th which makes that aspect much stronger.

Sun in 8'58 Capricorn in 4th
Blanco in 8'50 Taurus in 8th
(could indicate harmonious relations with white people,4th house could be having some white roots or living with white people like his wife..8th house could be sexual relations with whites like his wife)

Blanco sesquiquadrate Ascendant - '43
Blanco semisquare his Midheaven - '15
(could fit with his being part white from his mother, his white wife,and his child being part white)

Sun squares Black with 2'07 orb
(He is part black from his father who is 1/2 black
Some astrologers say that asteroids should have only 1 to 2 degree orb,but I am not really sure if there should be any hard set rules..feeling that one's life is more important than astrologers' rules...after all,human life can't be fully measured under a microsope and dissected.....also the stronger the orb,the stronger the aspect....the weaker the orb,the weaker the aspect.....so maybe Tiger's Sun square Black which would be considered too wide could reflect that his black heritage is less than other blacks.)

Mercury in 26'25 Capricorn in 4th
China in 25'29 Virgo in 1st
Ascendant in 24'33 Virgo
Midheaven in 24'04 Gemini
Chiron in 23'36 Aries Stationary Direct in 8th
Moon in 22'23 Sagittarius in 3rd (conjunct Imum Coeli)
White in 21'59 Leo Retrograde in 11th
(Moon trine White could reflect not only his white wife, but also his mother who is 1/4 white too), I have Moon conj White within 1 degree,and my mom and girlfriend are white....I also wonder if Chiron involved could be like heritage that involves creating a bridge between people of different ethnic groups.
Chiron is stationary,and so it's a strong Chiron energy. He has Chiron sextile Midheaven like me,and I am multiethnic in an interracial relationship.
His China in 1st conjunct Ascendant square his midheaven indicate his Chinese heritage/appearance. Moon square China with 3'05 orb could indicate having Chinese ancestry from his mother. Mercury in 4th trine China in 1st could reflect his Chinese heritage.

Africano in 19'06 Pisces in 6th
Africa in 20'51 Pisces in 6th
Lunar Nodes in 20'56 Scorpio in 2nd/Taurus in 8th
(This could indicate his African Heritage which he transcends,the dissolving of his African heritage because he is more than just African.

Sun quintile Africa - '06
(this could indicate his being part African from his father,as well as being gifted that can help others who have African descent)

Africa in 6th sesquiquadrate Uranus - '30 - can indicate rebelling against the notion of being a routine black person because of his multiethnic background.

Africa oppose Ascendant with 3'42 orb and square his Midheaven with 3'13 orb would be considered be too wide by astrologers, but this would seem to reflect that his African heritage and his African appearance is considerably less than the average African American. Africano square Midheaven Midheaven with 4'59 can also indicate the same thing.
Mars in 9th square Africano with 1'32 orb could indicate racial issues like a lot of blacks don't like that he doesn't class himself as black but embraces all his heritages. His Moon square Africa in 6th with 1'31 orb could reflect his feelings and being black in routine life conflict. His Moon square Africano in Pisces 6th with 3'17 orb is weak,but could add to that theme.. After all,he's mixed..he's not all black. With the Africa-Africano in Pisces,he transcends being black. Also..people who are mixed with black and another ethnicity are often referred to as being "confused" by many blacks. but at the same,being mixed can lead to a belief in unity,universal love,and to transcend all ethnicities.

Saturn in 1'06 Leo in 10th
Niger in 1'15 Libra in 1st
(With Saturn sextile Niger, this could indicate his being part black from his father, and with Niger in 1st, people can see that he's part black and many blacks see him as being black because many believe in the "one drop rule"

Niger quintile Neptune - '45 - transcending the black identity(defying the "one drop rule")

Thais in 6'54 Sagittarius in 3rd
Uranus in 6'21 Scorpio in 2nd
(could reflect his relatives that are Thai and his selfworth in connected to that)

Thais quintile Ascendant - '22
(indicate his appearace of being Thai from his heritage)

Raymond N. Andrews

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 09, 2009 05:25 PM            

As a person who is born to a white mother and black father, I am
interested in Eris in regards to race relations. Interracial
relationships/marriages are like the ultimate race relations. The
children from these unions symbolize the embracing of diversity,and
studies do show that people born from interracial relationships tend
to be very tolerant of diversity.

Halle Berry is a Academy Award,Emmy Award,and Golden Globe Award
Winning Actress who was born to a White Mother and Black Father. She
is now pregnant from her super model boyfriend, Gabriel Aubry who is
White French-Canadian. She hired security guards after receiving
threats from racists to her unborn child.

She is one of the most famous mixed black/white celebrities today.
She is the first mixed black/white person and first African American
woman to win a Best Actress Academy Award in "Monster's Ball". She is
one of the highest-paid actresses in Hollywood, and is a long-time
Revlon spokesmodel. Her breakthrough feature film role was in Spike
Lee's Jungle Fever(movie about interracial relationship, in which she
played a drug addict named Vivian. She played a mulatto slave,Queen in
the TV adaption of Queen: The Story of an American Family, based on
the book by Alex Haley who was Queen's grandson. In the 1999 film
Introducing Dorothy Dandridge, Berry portrayed the first black woman
to be nominated for a Best Actress Academy Award. In this HBO biopic,
Berry's performance was recognized with several awards, including an
Emmy and a Golden Globe.

Her own self-identification as being Black has been influenced by her
mother.
She is quoted as saying
" After having many talks with my mother about the issue, she
reinforced what she had always taught me. She said that even though
you are half black and half white, you will be discriminated against
in this country as a black person. People will not know when they see
you that you have a white mother unless you wear a sign on your
forehead. And, even if they did, so many people believe that you have
an ounce of black blood in you then you are black. So, therefore, I
decided to let folks categorize me however they needed to."

I am also checked out Halle in regards to advocacy which I believe to
be another keyword for Eris.

Halle has type 1 Diabetes,and she works hard to donate her time to
raise money for research for organizations such as the Juvenile
Diabetes Association. In 2004, she became the first national
ambassador of the National Diabetes Education - Diabetes Aware
Campaign with the support of the Entertainment Industry Foundation and
Novo Nordisk. The Diabetes Aware Campaign sponsors a website dedicated
to teaching people with diabetes how to effectively manage their
disease. It also offers a place for family and friends to go to learn
more about diabetes and diabetes management.

I checked out Eris and its nodes in her chart.

I also checked the ethnic asteroids
I used the asteroids, 11207 Black,1193 Africa,6391 Africano,8766
Niger,10730 White,4478 Blanco

August 14,1966
11:59 pm
Cleveland,Ohio

Moon in 3'11 Leo in 4th
Mercury in 3'17 Leo in 4th
South Eris Node in 4'12 Scorpio

The planets especially her Moon in 4th squaring South Eris Node could
indicate her diverse heritage as having to deal with
racism,bigotry,and intolerance of her mixed ethnic background as well
as her own tolerance of diversity.

Eris quintile Midheaven - '40 could also be an indicator of her
diverse heritage.

Her Midheaven in 29'01 Capricorn conjunct Africa in 27'56
Capricorn,and trine Black in 29'06 Virgo indicates her Black African
heritage and that she sees herself as being "Black" even though she's
mixed. Retrograde Saturn in 28'43 Pisces opposing Black,sextiling
Midheaven-Africa is in synchronicity with her father being of Black
African heritage. Her Venus in 29'33 Cancer oppose
Midheaven-Africa,sextile Black,and trine Saturn indicates loving
Blacks,and her Black heritage,and her Black father.

Her Sun in 21'53 Leo conjunct White in 22'02 Leo in 4th sextile Ceres
indicates her family heritage of being White from her mother as as
well as part of her animus/her attraction to white men with her
current boyfriend being White and with whom she is going to be a
future mother with. Sun-White squaring her Neptune-Ascendant
opposition can indicate that she could have been seen as confused
about her mixed heritage. Also she and her relationship with her
white boyfriend being misunderstood. A lot of mulattoes are seen as
"confused" Interestingly, Neptune is considered the planet of
mulattoes in Rex E. Bill's Rulership book. Also her Sun square Neptune
can indicate that she doesn't see men clearly as she has has even
acknowledged that she has bad taste in men.

Moon in 3'11 Leo conjunct Blanco in 6'23 Leo could be in synchronicity
with her White mother.
Blanco in 4th oppose Africa in 7'01 Aquarius in retrograde in 10th
squared by Niger in 7'16 Scorpio in 6th could also indicate stress and
tension in regards to having a mixed black and white heritage and
struggling to integrate her identity as a black person in every day
life. It is possible that she was called black racial slurs that
reminded her that she's Black.....especially with the "one drop rule"

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted August 09, 2009 05:58 PM              

its the man, not the color of the man.

i have dated out of my race, out of my age group, i have also dated a jewish man, which was harder, with his family and the stigma and expectation they had for thier son to find a nice jewish girl.

its almost like this subject thread could read, which sign is less racist and doesn't base thier dating preferences on race and religion.

ok, which sign is less bigoted?

seriously, dating a man that happens to be hispanic, black, jewish...dating a man that happens to be an accountant, writer, lawyer. it shouldn't a descriptive.

although some men only like blonds, brunettes, redheads, so it would stand to reason some only find attractive people with brown skin.....

but to me it would be more, i am dating a man that happens to be italian, or happens to be jewish. why still a stigma?

posted August 09, 2009 06:06 PM            

ERIS IN MY FAMILY

My Mother's Secondary Progressions,Solar Arc,and synastry with me at my birth

My Natal Jupiter in 8'16 Sagittarius
Her Secondary Progressed Jupiter in 8'25 Cancer
Her Solar Arc/Secondary progressed Sun in 8'34 Cancer
Her Natal Eris in 8'46 Aries

Her Solar Arc Eris in 25'21 Aries
Her Natal Venus in 25'04 Cancer

The composite chart of my mother and me:
Pluto in 11'53 Virgo
Moon in 11'01 Capricorn
Eris in 10'30 Aries Retrograde

This indicates my Northern White mother having me from an interracial relationship with my Southern Black father. My mother told me that my father wanted us all move to his homestate, Louisiana,but she refused. She thought that it was no place for a mixed kid like me. She and I definitely had some issues due to our ethnic differences. I remember people staring at us and even giving us dirty looks. At 9 years old, my mother made me check out a book on Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. because she wanted me to know my people in regards to the Blacks. My mother and I have a volatile relationship, and there have been power issues in the relationship and I constantly stood up for myself and that would anger. I was abused by her. She was shot,and I was with her at the time. She suffered from PTSD,and that made her more emotionally volatile. Her psychological problems were very problematic. My experiences with my mother influenced to be very fierce in standing up for myself and my rights. My mother was also frustrated of the challenges of me being a special needs child and was worried that I would never be normal like other children. She,herself is Dyslexic and has some Dyspraxic issues,and was insecure about her own intelligence. My experiences with my mother made me want to donate to Child Abuse/Neglect organization.

My Father's Secondary Progressions,Solar Arc,and synastry with me at my birth:
My Saturn in 5'08 Gemini retrograde
Solar Arc Eris in 5'18 Taurus
My Sun in 5'20 Scorpio
Natal Jupiter stationary Direct in 5'41 Taurus
My True Black Moon Lilith in 5'42 Scorpio Retrograde

The composite chart of my father and me:
North Lunar Node in 8'03 Sagittarius
Eris in 8'06 Aries Retrograde
Sun in 8'40 Sagittarius

This could indicate his life being touched in a deep personal way with my being born to him from his interracial relationship with my white mother. We both share Dyslexic,Dyspraxic issues as well as my getting my Blackness from him.

The composite chart of my mother and stepfather:
Pluto in Leo in 5'43 Leo
My True Black Moon Lilith in 5'42 Scorpio
Eris in 5'21 Aries Retrograde
My Sun in 5'20 Scorpio

Venus in 12'13 Cancer
Mars in 12'28 Scorpio
My Eris in 12'15 Aries

This could indicate our interracial family with my stepfather being Black from the North East and my mom being White from the North West. Our interracial family did have some issues.
There were some racist issues. We were disliked by some Mexican apartment managers.
They thought my mom was Mexican. They didn't like her being married to a Black man
and having a mixed kid. We ended up moving to a duplex in a predominantly black neighborhood which made my white mother uneasy because she really stood out.
They really stirred up a lot of crap in my life with their fighting each other. They were abusive to me, and I constantly stood up for myself and rebelled against them which really irked them. There were serious power issues,intense experiences in our family. It was my past with them that influenced me to be stand up for myself and my rights.

The composite of my mother and father,and their synastry with me:
Eris in 6'21 Aries
Venus in 5'35 Libra
Saturn in 5'30 Leo Retrograde
Jupiter in 5'05 Gemini
(Isosceles Trapezoid)
My Sun in 5'20 Scorpio
My Saturn in 5'08 Gemini Retrograde

The configurations and my synastry with them fit with their being an interracial couple and my connection with them. They had some volatility that made the relationship problematic.

The composite of my stepfather and me
Eris in 7'06 Aries Retrograde
Mars in 7'30 Aries

Synastry of my stepfather and me:
His Eris in 1'57 Aries
My Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius in 3rd

When I was a little kid in special education, I got picked on a lot. My father told me that if somebody hit me,I hit them back. He taught me the concept of self defense. I took that to heart to the point that I am quick to stand up for myself and my rights. He helped me get out of special education with the mentally retarded by getting me intelligence testing which resulted in me showing that I have above average intelligence and got me placed in a special education class with learning disabled children with at least average intelligence. He helped make it possible for me to get special education therapies to remediate my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia. Of course,those experiences lead me to wanting to be a learning disability advocate.

Aspects involving Eris and its Nodes in natal

Me:
North Node in 10'29 Aquarius
Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini
Eris in 12'15 Gemini Retrograde
Ascendant in 13'27 Virgo

True Black Moon Lilith in 5'42 Scorpio Retrograde
Sun in 5'20 Scorpio
South Eris Node in 5'29 Scorpio
North Eris Node in 5'20 Taurus
Saturn in 5'08 Gemini Retrograde

My Mom:
Midheaven in 8'57 Pisces
Eris in 8'46 Aries
Mars in 5'49 Capricorn Retrograde
North Eris Node in 5'52 Taurus
Jupiter in 4'29 Cancer
South Eris Node in 4'18 Scorpio
Saturn in 3'04 Scorpio

My father:
Pluto in 3'39 Leo
Eris in 3'57 Aries
North Eris Node in 4'49 Taurus
North Lunar Node in 5'36 Libra
Jupiter in 5'41 Taurus Stationary Direct
South Eris Node in 6'41 Scorpio
Saturn in 7'56 Taurus Stationary Direct
Mercury in 6'50 Capricorn

Sun 22'54 South
Eris 22'17 South
Venus 21'43 South

My stepfather:
Venus in 29'22 Gemini
Eris in 1'57 Aries Retrograde

Birthdata

Mine:
October 29, 1971
San Francisco,CA
3:20 AM

My mother:
June 13, 1954
Oakland,CA
6:26 AN

My father:
Jan 2, 1941
New Orleans,Lousiana

My stepfather:
Aug 4, 1929
Boston,Massachussetts

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted August 09, 2009 06:08 PM              

my answer would be something like: he wrestles alligators, don't mess with him.

which sign dates harley riders?

which sign dates pickle eaters?

which sign dates crack dealers?

which sign dates older men?

which sign dates girls with big boobs?

which sign dates men with money?

which sign mastrubates the most?

see what i mean?

no offense downtown mars, i just dont see the relevence.

posted August 09, 2009 06:22 PM            

quote:

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i am not thrilled that it is even still an issue or something people notice.

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posted August 09, 2009 06:34 PM            

i find nothing wrong with this kind of topic because it's a message board and people are gonna ask a billion types of questions. relevant or not...important or not...if they ask it then go ahead and answer it. if it's not something you think should be asked then just leave the question alone.

and not to sound negative or anything but people to this day still have hang ups about stuff like religion and race and age and etc...like it'd be nice to say oh it doesn't matter but even for someone in gen y, like there's people younger than me that i've come across who do consider race. the same goes for me to whether it's a subconscious thing or concious thing. like i know who wouldn't be at the top of my list. like i know if i were to be brutally honest, i would need to be with someone who believes in god and celebrates christmas. and i know friends who must marry someone who's jewish...so like it happens.

like i have guy friends who aren't attracted to a certain race and they're quite honest and vocal about it. and these are young twentysomething guys.

posted August 09, 2009 06:38 PM              

i dont get it at all.

it should not be relevant. and if it is, it is no more relevant than someone who only dates rich men.

the color of a person has no more bearing on what kind of person someone is than what they do for a living.

why would it be different for white people than anyone else? i am not getting it.

maybe its my 5th house pluto, uranus, venus
that doesnt even think about it as an issue.

posted August 09, 2009 06:42 PM            

talking about things like race is always controversial to some people

controversial is relative

it's controversial to people that have a problem with what's being said or written

nobody agrees on everything, and so there is always be controversy about something

just look at the issue with Barack Obama and the policeman, Professor Gates.

I didn't think that Obama was wrong for saying what he said. I did believe that Gates overreacted and could have handled the situation differently.

I liked how Obama invited the two men over to the white house like a smoking the peace pipe thing.

I don't think Obama is divisive. I think that it does bride gaps, and his heritage is connected to bridging/closing gaps.
A lot of people believe the same thing.

but a lot of people believe that he's divisive...especially using his past with Rev. Wright to justify their beliefs that Obama is divisive and even racist which I think is ridiculous.

any ways

threads like this, I think that it's better to agree to disagree.

we are not always going to agree on things.

look how many religions,spiritual beliefs are on this planet

so much diversity.

I also want to point that dating outside the race is a big thing for many people. It's even taboo to a lot of people

interracial marriages aren't even 10 percent of all marriages in USA and black/white marriages are very small percentage..much less than 10 percent.

it's very complexed for people born from interracial relationships. I know from personal experience. It was pain in the ass growing up multiracial...especially in my teen years which are supposed to be like the dating years.

I am going to check the chart of this thread.

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 09, 2009 06:43 PM            

also cpn isn't being critical of it either, it's just the opinion of indifference.

posted August 09, 2009 06:48 PM            

I agree, you have the right to write what you want - I have the right to reply & I find your use of the asteroid highly offensive.

Can you not understand that it's offensive to use the name of an African country (basically disregard it's proper usage as name of a country, river & people) then use it to represent a racial slur that's spat against people of said race? Can you not see how inappropriate and offensive that may be to people from these areas. Or does your empathy only apply when offence is made to those with learning disabilities?

It's akin to me using asteroid "mule" (if it exists) to talk about biracial people. Inappropriate no?

posted August 09, 2009 06:48 PM              

i would tell my family or anyone who didn't like it to mind thier own business.

posted August 09, 2009 06:58 PM            

CPN, Lechian - I've let it go - if I have to discuss race relations I'll do it over at racialicious.com!

Inter_____ dating always brings out the heat in people. I didn't want that - I just want to know which signs were likely to "explore" people of other cultures. It is a valid question, there are even things written about it in astrology books (Sextrology is the most recent one that I have read that mentions it) so I didn't think it would be a big deal...

posted August 09, 2009 07:02 PM            

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Gosh, I tried to bring celebrities into this and everything!

CPN, Lechian - I've let it go - if I have to discuss race relations I'll do it over at racialicious.com!

Inter_____ dating always brings out the heat in people. I didn't want that - I just want to know which signs were likely to "explore" people of other cultures. It is a valid question, there are even sections written about it in books (Sextrology is the most recent one that I have read that mentions it) so I didn't think it would be a big deal...

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posted August 09, 2009 07:07 PM            

I checked out the Eris aspects in the chart of when this whole thread started

Eris
sextile Jupiter - '57
semisquare Moon - '06
sesquiquadrate Mercury - '57
sesquiquadrate Vertex - '35

in declination longitude equivalent chart,
Venus trine Eris - '55

oh another thing

ummmm...speaking as a person of multiracial ancestry, I don't know about anybody else in here, but I would feel very uncomfortable for using the term, "white privilege" because it can seem like generalizing,racist,and **** some people off...adding more controversy.

I try to shut up about stuff like that.
It's too damned sensitive.

I get what you meant though.

but I think that this forum is the wrong place to talk about things like "white privilege"

next thing...there can be people saying about "black privilege" and throw stuff up like affirmative action, yada yada and say that racism is gone in USA because Obama is elected president of USA I read these arguments all over the internet. imho I don't see how a son of black man and white woman with no slave roots being elected president equates to racism bigotry isn't still a problem in USA.

I am not get into it with anybody. I am through with debates about stuff like what asteroids I should use and not use in regards to race relations,sociological matters.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 09, 2009 07:10 PM            

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the UK is more tolerant to biracial relationships (black/white) than the US

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All the more reason for me to move there, lol. Although that reminds me of something (pretty offensive) my friend said to me once: I was telling her about how this English guy was hitting on me and she said "Well, you know they are 'Hungry like the wolf!'" I laughed but was later offended - lol

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but I think that this forum is the wrong place to talk about things like "white privilege"

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posted August 09, 2009 07:12 PM              

all i can say is wow, it really will never end. i'm out of here too.

i will not leave before noticing you edited your posts regarding how i wouldnt understand because i am a part of the white privelege.