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posted August 16, 2009 12:25 AM         

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I was reading that during Herod's reign Jupiter and the planets in Aries on April 17, 6 BC signified a Messianic birth. You will also find confirmation by a Roman astrologer, Firmicus Maternus, that the conditions of that day when Jupiter was in the east were those for the birth of a "divine and immortal" person.
he also speaks of the star Hamal at the 11th degree of aries.whoever has the ascendant in this star and jupiter conjuncts or trine it,will be a great powerful leader, a friend of kings.

i can see how Jesus could be seen as an aries with various indicators(often depicted wearing red cloak, leadership abilities, show-off (walking on water, turning water to wine, claiming divine parentage) belief in virginity of mother, courage, forthright honesty.

although to me he always felt like a pisces.
he s symbolized by the fish sign ... age of pisces began at the time of his birth...
seems the accurate date and time of Jesus birth (March 1, 7 BCE at 1:21 AM in Bethlehem, Judea) were calculated by retired Methodist minister, Biblical scholar -- and professional astrologer -- the late Reverend Don Jacobs, a.k.a. Moby Dick the Astrologer, using mainframe computer programs after decades of historical, biblical and astrological research.

As for the gemini theory, astronomers have calculated that Christmas should be in June, by charting the appearance of the ‘Christmas star’ which the Bible says led the three Wise Men to Jesus.
They found that a bright star which appeared over Bethlehem 2,000 years ago pinpointed the date of Christ’s birth as June 17 rather than December 25.
The researchers claim the ‘Christmas star’ was most likely a magnificent conjunction of the planets Venus and Jupiter, which were so close together they would have shone unusually brightly as a single “beacon of light” which appeared suddenly.Generally accepted research has placed the nativity to somewhere between 3BC and 1AD. Using the St Matthew’s Gospel as a reference point, Mr Reneke pinpointed the planetary conjunction, which appeared in the constellation of Leo, to the exact date of June 17 in the year 2BC.

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posted August 16, 2009 12:44 AM         

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this topic wold be so good on divine diversaties.

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posted August 16, 2009 01:11 AM         

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Pisces

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posted August 16, 2009 05:18 AM         

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Destroying a fig tree for not producing fruit outside its season (ie, as God supposedly made it) and then insinuating those who displeased him would get the same treatment...and this being right after leading a raid on people selling stuff at the temples (at least according to 1 gospel...another gospel has a different version), I'd be more inclined to see him as Aries rather than Pisces. But of course many other factors in the chart have to be taken into account, too.

Overall, Jesus seemed to have more the frankness, bravery, and directness of an Aries gogetter than a more withdrawn, shy Pisces...though turning water to wine does sound like something a Pisces would do.

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posted August 16, 2009 06:16 AM         

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Pisces... just because he is associated with the Age of Pisces.
I wonder who will become our spiritual Aquarian Christian leader?

Plus, he seemed to like fish

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posted August 16, 2009 07:10 AM         

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He was definitely a pisces, but could have had some fire influence that gave his a fiesty edge to basic compassion and unconditional love.

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posted August 16, 2009 07:18 AM         

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the pisces thing sure explains why i'm not very fond of him

his calendar birth is 25th december, wouldn't that make him a capricorn though?

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posted August 16, 2009 07:20 AM         

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25th December is just a date... you think they had a calendar back in 0 AD?

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posted August 16, 2009 07:21 AM         

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evander - you don't like his works or his followers?

The 25th is the solstice date, and the birthday of many other Pagan gods. It was merged with his "birthday" for political reasons.

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posted August 16, 2009 07:55 AM         

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twins because it says in the bible the shepard sleep out and tend sheep at the time.

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posted August 16, 2009 08:14 AM         

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25th December is just a date... you think they had a calendar back in 0 AD?

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The reason his birthday was moved to December 25th was not because early Christians/Jews didn't have a sense of a calender, but there are theories include the fact that they needed a cover for worshipping him (as they could not do so openly) or some symbolism in his birth. That cover/symbol happened to be the Winter Solstice/Saturnalia-thingy that falls around the same time (December 25th).

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posted August 16, 2009 08:50 AM         

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The 25th is the solstice date, and the birthday of many other Pagan gods. It was merged with his "birthday" for political reasons.

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I saw that too in few documentaries I watched.

As far as I go... I don't mind religious people but I find them to be a bit naive and willing to accept the things "as they are", and far too many act like religion is a buffet table, they just take things that go their way. I apologize in advance if this has anyone insulted

as far as Jesus goes I think it's a "lost in translation" story. We'll never know what was going through the head of a guy who existed 2000 years ago

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posted August 16, 2009 08:54 AM         

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nobody knows his birthday. During roman centery they started to celebrate the suns day at 25 december. Christians people celebrate jesus birhday at 200 e christians birth at 6 januari but later they moved to the same as roman 25 december.

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posted August 16, 2009 08:57 AM         

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actually Serbian xmas is 6th January still. it's that whole Gregorian vs Julian calendar issue

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posted August 16, 2009 09:08 AM         

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I remember reading once (though I don't remember where) that Jesus was solar Pisces, Aquarius Moon and that "Satan" was a solar Aquarius, Aquarius Moon. I liked that the sun/moon combos were so similar, and it made sense to me (at least according to the mythology). The Pisces & Aquarius archetypes both associate themselves with the collective universal, except that Aquarius seeks complete, concrete truth/knowledge while Pisces is much more comfortable with knowing through faith and symbolism.

Would it be fair to say that the mythology of Jesus seems very Piscean, while the man himself seems very Arian?

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posted August 16, 2009 01:08 PM         

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I wonder who will become our spiritual Aquarian Christian leader?

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I thought the point of the Age of Aquarius was to do away with Christianity all together and develop universal humanism as the main mechanism for morality--celebrating reason and inquiry as opposed to blind faith.

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I remember reading once (though I don't remember where) that Jesus was solar Pisces, Aquarius Moon and that "Satan" was a solar Aquarius, Aquarius Moon.

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According to Astrotheme, Satan is basically all Aqua all residing in the 12th house. http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/8fg6N6R582Q2.htm I thought it was pretty lol considering me and Satan would get along quite well synastrically.

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posted August 16, 2009 01:26 PM         

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maybe Jesus never existed.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1

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posted August 16, 2009 03:16 PM         

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I think they've proved he did exist, they haven't "proved" he was the son of God. I believe he was, but I am not one to convince others otherwise. If others don't believe that, that's cool, but I don't want them trying to change my mind, either.

I saw a whole thing on this on the Discovery Channel. It was about the astrology of Jesus. It was really good! Astrologers said they thought he was born when a lot of stuff was in aries. There was a jupiter/neptune conjunction -- I think it was jupiter neptune, it could have been jupiter - saturn... anyway, that is what the magi saw in the sky and what led them to believe the messiah was being born -- this astrological configuration. It makes sense, because the magi did see a sign in the heavens and then went to find him. I wish I could remember everything they said, they were able to pin down the date because of the configuration in the sky and also tie it to when certain kings were ruling.

Out of all the theories, this one makes the most sense to me.

If I remember right, He was born in April -- April 17th, maybe...?

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posted August 16, 2009 03:31 PM         

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Triple Jupiter-Saturn conjunction in Pisces

I read about that.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1

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posted August 16, 2009 03:45 PM         

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The Discovery Channel program was so good! I wish they'd re-run it. I think everyone here would like it. I kept thinking to myself, "Show the chart!" But most viewers wouldn't know what the chart means -- except us.

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posted August 16, 2009 03:54 PM         

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maybe Jesus never existed.

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you read my mind Raymond

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posted August 16, 2009 06:46 PM         

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Jesus being Aries but Christianity being Pisces (and based more on the myth than the man) seems plausible. Though I'm more inclined to view the Catholic Church as Cappie (excessive materialism, pessimism, Saturnian disposition, etc) and Eastern Orthodox (at least Russian Orthodox) as more Scorpio (more mystical, but also more vengeful & secretive, as well as seeming more comfortable and less jaded with the dark side of humanity--though trying to overcome it, of course).

Still, Christianity is older than either of those churches. Just when those churches came to power (yes, I know officially they were one church to start with, though IMO they were always different churches), they persecuted and even slaughtered all the other Christian sects out of existence (because that's what Jesus would do).

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posted August 16, 2009 06:56 PM         

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posted August 16, 2009 08:12 PM         

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25th December is just a date... you think they had a calendar back in 0 AD?

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Yeah, they sure did have the planets back then

Looking at this from a different way, he was Earth. Why? He had 12 disciples.....12 signs.....all go round the earth...play on his playstation and chat about Women. Sorry

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posted August 17, 2009 01:49 AM         

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25th December is just a date... you think they had a calendar back in 0 AD?

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...the Julian Calender existed.

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