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Ann7
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posted August 21, 2009 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message
What can you guys tell me about this placement in a composite chart? Thanks

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MysticMelody
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posted August 21, 2009 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
You may have already read this, but to get people's ideas flowing, here is the aspect interpretation from astro.com:

"Mars Conjunct Pluto
The conjunction of Mars and Pluto is a very powerful aspect to have in the composite
chart, for it indicates a strong power drive within the relationship that may express
itself in many ways.
The two of you may have come together to accomplish a particular task involving a
great deal of effort in order to change certain conditions in your lives or in the lives of
those around you. This is an aspect of powerful transformation, which can be either
creative or destructive. Together you have the power to transform anything you aim at
in your lives.
If you are not conscious of this energy, it may come out as a power struggle between
the two of you, with one trying to dominate the other. "I would like you much more if..."
is a common phrase with this aspect. It is possible to transform each other creatively,
but that is not likely to happen unless you try to transform out of love, not egotism.
The ego brings out the worst energies of Pluto, so it is best not to put them to the
service of the ego. These energies are too great for the ego to handle.
You can project these energies outside of yourselves onto the world and work
together to make changes in conditions around you. But even here it is very
important that you do so from a position of love and tolerance. Otherwise you will
provoke such opposition from others that you may be defeated by outside forces."

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted August 21, 2009 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
That's my kind of chemistry

Mars/Pluto is a lust bond, especially a conjunction. Good sex. Hot sex. In the 8th house I would say it would be especially indicative of a sexual obsession. Might be a little TOO intense. Depends on what else you had going on.

Post the composite. Now I'm intrigued.

EDIT: More from CafeAstrology:

Composite Mars in the 8th House. Sexual attraction of a mysterious, intense, and deep nature is indicated here. The need for security together is emphasized, but not always easy to fulfill. Jealousies and possessiveness can be a real issue between you. Arguments over these matters are quite possible, or these matters can be at the root of petty arguments. Defining what's yours and what's mine is a challenge, as there is an attempt to merge together on a deep level. You may become quite frustrated with each other if you don't feel a strong, intimate connection. A love-hate relationship is very easy to slip into with this aspect. Do your best to avoid mind games and power struggles. Fears of betrayal or loss of the partnership can lead you to very negative states of mind and even underhanded tactics with each other. As easily as you can plumb the depths, you can also reach great heights together if you allow the inherent passion in this relationship to express itself positively.

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posted August 21, 2009 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, a very sexual bond, however it is of the utmost importance that you don't do anything you don't want to do. I don't care if you have already declared yourself the freakiest, kinkiest person in the world, you must, must, MUST!!! DO NOT DO ANYTHING YOU DON'T WANT TO DO!!!! And absolutely nothing dangerous. This measurement is incredibly potent between a couple.

Have fun, kids. But I don't have to tell YOU that.

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blue moon
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posted August 21, 2009 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Sounds great, but what if this was on a chart with your granny?

Not so hot. It might need a rethink in this instance.

In any instance I think as much as yes, in a sexual relationship this is hot, hot, hot, etc., there is always going to be another dimension to the dynamic that it would be wise not to overlook. Same with any aspect, in my view. Always helpful to dig a bit deeper than the obvious interpretation.

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posted August 21, 2009 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, you're right. I would not want to have this with granny. You could be looking at a "Sybil" situation. Consider that you have it in Virgo with Granny, she could be your best active gardening teacher, the literal birds and bees and trees and seeds. You could be helping her on the farm in a big way. I've seen this aspect with parents and siblings of strict farm families where they wake up at 5 AM to milk the cows before breakfast, etc. Nothing sexual about it. But active mystery is also suggested by the 8th house symbolism. Perhaps they are expert hunters who really handle the death of animals in a business fashion, slaughter their own cows, etc. That's real 8th house stuff.

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted August 21, 2009 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmm. Good point Blue Moon. I went with "hot, hot, hot" because a) I am always thinking about sex and b) because I got the sense that the original poster was talking about a romantic relationship but you are right.

Hmm. 8th house can also represent joint resources, like inheritances, finances, taxes, alimony, stuff like that right? And Mars/Pluto can be dominance and power struggles? So what about a divorce or some kind of family issue where one party is trying to gain the upper hand in that regard?

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Ann7
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posted August 21, 2009 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, thanks for all of the replies! I'm sneaking to do this at work {lol} but when I get home I'll see what I can do about posting the chart. This person is a friend so there is nothing sexual between us -however this being such an intense placement, I was curious to hear what others had to say {opinions/ experiences}. What's even more interesting is that we both have mars conjunct pluto in our natal charts. The only difference is that mine is almost exact and his is a much wider orb. Also, in out composite the placement lays between Libra and Scorpio. I will say that I feel very bonded and rather protective of this friend. {having this with granny...ewww. LOL}

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posted August 21, 2009 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
I just hope you two aren't the platonic Bonnie and Clyde. Do you both like camping in the swamp or something? Have aligators and snakes as pets? Hmm...maybe you're both pimps. Mafia? Just don't get mad at each other. Always be nice to each other. Perhaps you're both REALLY GOOD at hiding the bodies. LOOOOOOOL!! Oops, maybe I shouldn't laugh so hard. I'll quiet down now, ssshhhhh....

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posted August 21, 2009 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe you should go into business together. Change the world. Politics (good?). Or Mafia (evil!). LOL!

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posted August 21, 2009 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
8th house placements are often psychologically insightful. Deep in whatever way the planets express themeselves.

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posted August 21, 2009 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
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