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Ceridwen
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posted March 19, 2012 11:08 AM
  
I am Loved,which method did you apply?
Letting each sign start with Aries, or letting each sign start with the sign itself? If your Sun is 18 Taurus, your Dwad Sun cannot be on 12 Cap. It can be either on 7 Scorpio or on 7 Sagittarius. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted March 19, 2012 11:16 AM
"Calculating Duad and Dwad charts
Duads are twelve 2.5 degree segments of a zodiac sign. Each duad starts with the zodiac sign and then progresses through each of the following signs in order. E.g. If the zodiac sign is Sagittarius, then the first 2 degrees 30 minutes will be the Sagittarius duad of Sagittarius, the second 2 degrees 30 minutes will be the Capricorn duad of Sagittarius, the third 2 degrees 30 minutes will be the Aquarius duad of Sagittarius .. and so on. (Click to see Duad Table )
There is a second kind of division where the 1st dwad of any sign is the Aries dwad, the 2nd is the Taurus dwad .. and so on. These are easy to calculate on a computer because they are the 12th harmonic chart.
CALCULATING THE DUAD CHART BY HAND OR WITH CALCULATOR
As each duad is a “mini sign” the 2½ degrees it covers can be converted into the 30 degrees of a normal zodiac sign and make a whole new duad chart. It is relatively simple to calculate the duad zodiac degree by taking the start of the duad degree away from the degree of the planet and then converting that degree into the zodiac degree within that duad.
For example: Adam’s natal Sun is 8Scorpio23. This is the Aquarius duad of Scorpio and that duad starts at 7.30° Scorpio
08.23 - 07.30 = 0.53
So Adam’s Sun duad is 0° 53’ into the Aquarius duad. Using a calculator that calculates in units of 60, you can multiply 0° 53’ x 12 and this will give you 10°.36’ Therefore Adam’s duad Sun is 10° 36’ of Aquarius.
You can follow the same method for all the other planets and angles in the chart to make up a duad chart. The duad chart has the Ascendant in the same position as that of the natal chart, but the MC and IC can be in any house in the duad chart. Mercury and Venus can be anywhere in the duad chart, they don’t have to be close to the Sun.
Following this the dwad chart is quite easy to calculate as the planets and angles will be in the same degree as that of the duad chart, but usually in a different dwad sign
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http://aliceportman.com/calculating-duad-and-dwad-charts/
http://aliceportman.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Duad-Table1.pdf
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s4nd
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posted March 19, 2012 11:24 AM
edit. will do it manually.IP: Logged |
yuting
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posted March 19, 2012 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"Calculating Duad and Dwad charts
Duads are twelve 2.5 degree segments of a zodiac sign. Each duad starts with the zodiac sign and then progresses through each of the following signs in order.
There is a second kind of division where the 1st dwad of any sign is the Aries dwad, the 2nd is the Taurus dwad .. and so on. These are easy to calculate on a computer because they are the 12th harmonic chart.
Which kind do you use? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted March 19, 2012 12:05 PM
The Duad system, in which it starts with the zodiac sign.In the other method I have Dwad Venus in Gemini, in Duads it is in Pisces, and THAT explains a whole lot! (especially since my Venus is in Capricorn - neither Gemini nor Capricorn would explain the dreamy idealistic approach to love, not always very realistic). IP: Logged |
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posted March 19, 2012 03:01 PM
something else I don't think is used enough in synastry is PARALLELS in declinations..They are just as important in synastry as in the natal chart. Decanates http://www.astroroom.com/astrology-decans.html http://astrology.findyourfate.com/as...-decanates.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decan http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/decans.php http://www.astroroom.com/astrology-decans.html http://www.essortment.com/astrology-...tes-63894.html dwads/duads http://aliceportman.com/calculating-duad-and-dwad-charts/ basic astrology forum, parallels in declination http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000675.html
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DepTaurus
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posted March 19, 2012 03:48 PM
I am totally drawing a blank at this thread,and i started it lol.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted March 19, 2012 04:00 PM
They are totally fascinating to me.For example:
My Duad Saturn is on 23 Capricorn conjunct my Duad Pluto on 19 Capricorn. This falls onto my Radix Sun/Moon-mp and Antivertex on 21 Capricorn - makes TOTAL sense to me. It explains a lot about that very very serious and sometimes almost gloomy undercurrent inside of me. Also that being torn between control and the need for really kathartic intense experiences.
Of course this already pops up with my Saturn in Cance rin 8th house and Venus in Capricorn square Pluto. But still...
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SaggiMC
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posted March 20, 2012 07:00 AM
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I am totally drawing a blank at this thread,and i started it lol.
dwads and decanates are not major influences, but a kind of fine tuning thing.lonake,
Just quick mention, when quoting other peoples work, you should mention the source/author and cite where it comes from. Otherwise, you are open to plagarism and copyright breaches. just be careful is what I'm saying as it's not this site that's liable, but YOU personally...and leaving yourself open to legal action IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted March 20, 2012 07:22 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SaggiMC:
dwads and decanates are not major influences, but a kind of fine tuning thing.I agree.
BUT, like dispositors, they do explain why we sometimes have a subtle understanding for someone, even when the sign placement itself would not make it likely (other things have an influence here, too, though).
Stephen Arroyo put much emphasis on the dispositors of a sign, he called them "overtones". And so far I can only agree with him, though this is more about dispositors than Duads/ Dwads.
Anyway, I always found it interesting that the dispositors of ALL my personal planets and ASC are in water signs, while the planets itself show a lack of water. IP: Logged |
s4nd
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posted March 20, 2012 12:20 PM
 Uploaded with ImageShack.us checked it twice lol! manually and astro.com 12 harmonic then just changed the sign as to where it is on the pdf a few page back. i should be attracted to scorpio suns then. that degree is on my mars. my rising, vertex, and north node are all in scorpio. a fellow leo mooner makes sense. that degree would be on regulus and my valentine asteroid. a cancer venus or mars. the mars in particular is conjunct my natal mc. ..and an aquarius mercury. i'm pretty sure that degree hits something like psyche or dna. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted March 20, 2012 12:31 PM
Sand,your Duad Mercury is conjunct my natal Moon on 17 Aquarius.
And your Duad Venus conjuncts my natal Saturn on 16.58 Cancer.
And we both have a Duad Moon, only mine is on 25 Leo conjunct Duad DESC.
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posted March 20, 2012 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Sand,your Duad Mercury is conjunct my natal Moon on 17 Aquarius.
And your Duad Venus conjuncts my natal Saturn on 16.58 Cancer.
And we both have a Duad Moon, only mine is on 25 Leo conjunct Duad DESC.
awesome!! is that how to apply it look at natals of other people? what about your own natal? eh i see uranus is conj my natal h7 cusp lol  a few pages back i'm even co-claiming pisces duad with deptaurus lol! i guess i made a mistake with my sun sign degree lol i'm on the 16th not the 26th. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted March 20, 2012 03:09 PM
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awesome!! is that how to apply it look at natals of other people? what about your own natal?
At least it`s how I am doing it, looking for conjunctions and oppositions mainly. What do you mean about my natal? here are my placements: first the usual, the Duad is in Brackets. Sun: 26 Sag (11 Libra)
Moon: 17 Aqua (25 Leo)
ASC: 7 Sag (24 Aqua)
MC: 5 Libra (29 Scorpio) Mercury: 25 Sag (00 Libra)
Venus: 6 Cap (13 Pisces)
Mars: 5 Sag (2 Aqua) Jupiter: 11 Pisces (14 Cancer)
Saturn: 17 Cancer (23 Cap)
Uranus: 1 Scorpio (16 Scorpio)
Neptune: 10 Sag (29 Pisces)
Pluto: 9 Libra (19 Cap)
NN: 10 Sag (2 Aries) Juno: 17 Pisces (23 virgo)
Eros: 21 Cancer (12 Pisces)
Psyche: 24 Aqua (18 Scorpio)
Amor: 2 Sag (25 Sag)
Valentine: 27 Scorpio (00 Libra)
Vertex: 21 Cancer (17 Pisces) Did you mean a list like that? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted March 20, 2012 03:11 PM
I once did a Duad chart of a member here and her twinsister, I was amazed myself at how clear the differences between their actual characters came out, using the Duad chart. If I find it I am going to bump it. IP: Logged |
s4nd
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posted March 20, 2012 03:15 PM
oh no no i just meant what could be the significance of dwad conjunctions to your natal.IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted March 20, 2012 03:51 PM
Eh, that program doesn't work for me.I'll have to do it by hand, awesome  IP: Logged |
s4nd
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posted March 20, 2012 04:10 PM
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Eh, that program doesn't work for me.I'll have to do it by hand, awesome
the calculator? input the sun then hit calculate. then the moon.. etc.. 1 by 1. IP: Logged |
IamLoved
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posted March 20, 2012 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I am Loved,which method did you apply?
Letting each sign start with Aries, or letting each sign start with the sign itself? If your Sun is 18 Taurus, your Dwad Sun cannot be on 12 Cap. It can be either on 7 Scorpio or on 7 Sagittarius.
I went to this website: http://aliceportman.com/calculating-duad-and-dwad-charts/ and clicked on the purple "duads program" link
I appreciate your help @Ceridwen *Edit I think I know what I did wrong... when I entered the degree info I forgot to put a decimal(i.e. "18 8" instead of "18.8")I just put a space so it didn't work. But, now that I the decimal it's working right! I also clicked on "Do trial run" that is how I came up with the incorrect dwad
These are my natal placements... Planetary positions
planet sign degree motion
Sun Taurus 18°08'36 in house 11 direct
Moon Leo 19°13'20 in house 2 direct
Mercury Aries 26°39'08 in house 10 direct
Venus Taurus 7°50'12 in house 11 direct
Mars Scorpio 21°50'14 in house 5 retrograde
Jupiter Capricorn 12°50'26 in house 6 retrograde
Saturn Scorpio 12°41'17 in house 5 retrograde
Uranus Sagittarius 12°31'47 in house 5 retrograde
Neptune Capricorn 1°05'20 in house 6 retrograde
Pluto Scorpio 0°15'17 in house 4 retrograde
True Node Gemini 6°42'04 in house 11 retrograde House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Cancer 18°39'24
2nd House Leo 8°14'41
3rd House Virgo 0°54'40
Imum Coeli Virgo 29°40'36
5th House Scorpio 5°59'55
6th House Sagittarius 14°58'41
Descendant Capricorn 18°39'24
8th House Aquarius 8°14'41
9th House Pisces 0°54'40
Medium Coeli Pisces 29°40'36
11th House Taurus 5°59'55
12th House Gemini 14°58'41 Major aspects
Sun Square Moon 1°05
Sun Opposition Mars 3°42
Sun Trine Jupiter 5°18
Sun Opposition Saturn 5°27
Sun Sextile Ascendant 0°31
Moon Trine Mercury 7°26
Moon Square Mars 2°37
Moon Square Saturn 6°32
Moon Trine Uranus 6°42
Mercury Trine Neptune 4°26
Mercury Opposition Pluto 3°36
Venus Trine Jupiter 5°00
Venus Opposition Saturn 4°51
Mars Trine Ascendant 3°11
Jupiter Sextile Saturn 0°09
Jupiter Opposition Ascendant 5°49
Saturn Trine Ascendant 5°58
Neptune Sextile Pluto 0°50 Dwad Sun 6 SAG 12'
Dwad Moon 20 PIS 36'
Dwad Mercury 19 AQU 48'
Dwad Venus
to be continued
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Doux Rêve
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posted March 20, 2012 04:45 PM
I've calculated them by hand, and then with the program, and the results are quite different! I'm not sure which ones are the right ones, but I guess I'll trust the program  Sun - 15°60 Taurus
Moon - 0°00 Libra
Mercury - 9°48 Pisces
Venus - 20°24 Virgo
Mars - 23°12 Libra
Jupiter - 24°6 Virgo
Saturn - 14°48 Scorpio
Uranus - 17°24 Leo
Neptune - 15°24 Leo
Pluto - 6° Leo
NN - 17° Virgo
ASC - 13°36 Cancer
MC - 8°12 Sagittarius
Vertex - 20°12 Cancer Phew! I haven't noticed any important connections to these points from the charts of other people though. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted March 20, 2012 04:55 PM
IamLoved, here are your Duads:Sun - 7°36 Sagittarius
Moon - 20°36 Pisces
Mercury - 19°48 Aquarius
Venus - 3°60 Leo
Mars - 21°60 Cancer
Jupiter - 3°60 Gemini
Saturn - 2°12 Aries
Uranus - 0°12 Taurus
Neptune - 12°60 Capricorn
Pluto - 3° Capricorn
NN - 20°24 Scorpio
ASC - 13°48 Aquarius
MC - 26° Aquarius I don't have your Vertex though. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted March 20, 2012 04:56 PM
Oops I think you've figured that out already!
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posted March 20, 2012 05:17 PM
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Oops I think you've figured that out already!
on a scale of 1-10 of importance between dwads and parallels. parallels get 10 and dwads 3......  IP: Logged |
IamLoved
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posted March 20, 2012 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
IamLoved, here are your Duads:Sun - 7°36 Sagittarius
Moon - 20°36 Pisces
Mercury - 19°48 Aquarius
Venus - 3°60 Leo
Mars - 21°60 Cancer
Jupiter - 3°60 Gemini
Saturn - 2°12 Aries
Uranus - 0°12 Taurus
Neptune - 12°60 Capricorn
Pluto - 3° Capricorn
NN - 20°24 Scorpio
ASC - 13°48 Aquarius
MC - 26° Aquarius I don't have your Vertex though.
Thank you sooooooooo much @Doux Rêve You're far too kind!!! I just now caught on lol IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted March 20, 2012 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
on a scale of 1-10 of importance between dwads and parallels. parallels get 10 and dwads 3......
Yeah I'm pretty sure parallels are more important. But you know what, I usually only stick to aspects between the planets/angles, and guess what, I get everything I need there. I may check asteroids and parallels and what not, but in the end, planets and houses say it all anyway - at least that's what I've found
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Originally posted by IamLoved:
Thank you sooooooooo much @Doux RêveYou're far too kind!!! I just now caught on lol
You're welcome!
I saw you were having trouble so thought I'd help
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