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IamLoved
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posted March 20, 2012 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IamLoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I once did a Duad chart of a member here and her twinsister, I was amazed myself at how clear the differences between their actual characters came out, using the Duad chart.

If I find it I am going to bump it.


That's so true.... Sand and I are born a few hours apart and our dwads are different too.... there are some similarities though.

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posted March 20, 2012 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IamLoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
on a scale of 1-10 of importance between dwads and parallels. parallels get 10 and dwads 3......



Parallels? How does one find out about these? Better yet how do we calculate our individual parallels?

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Doux Rêve
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posted March 20, 2012 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check this:
http://www.cafeastrology.com/declinations_parallels.html

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posted March 20, 2012 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IamLoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone I like has the following dwads

Sun 11 SAG 48'
Moon 25 VIR 24'
Merc 10 ARI 24'
Ven 12 SAG 00'
Mars 24 CAN 00'
Jup 21 SCO 00'
Sat 21 TAU 12'
Ura 21 CAN 12'
Nap 8 LEO 12'
Plu 17 LEO 36'
N Node 9 TAU 24'
Asc 23 PIS 48'
MC 14 SAG 36'
VX 5 TAU 36'

Compared to mine.....

Sun - 7°36 Sagittarius
Moon - 20°36 Pisces
Mercury - 19°48 Aquarius
Venus - 3°60 Leo
Mars - 21°60 Cancer
Jupiter - 3°60 Gemini
Saturn - 2°12 Aries
Uranus - 0°12 Taurus
Neptune - 12°60 Capricorn
Pluto - 3° Capricorn
NN - 20°24 Scorpio
ASC - 13°48 Aquarius
MC - 26° Aquarius
VX - 29°36 Capricorn

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posted March 20, 2012 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for s4nd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
interesting i'm only a day apart from iamloved's bday and alredy so different. maybe i did mine wrong lol..

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posted March 20, 2012 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Nope, I think that's pretty normal, even twins have different Duads so.. No worries!

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posted March 20, 2012 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IamLoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Check this:
http://www.cafeastrology.com/declinations_parallels.html

Okay I will Thanks a lot!!!

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posted March 20, 2012 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IamLoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by s4nd:
interesting i'm only a day apart from iamloved's bday and alredy so different. maybe i did mine wrong lol..

lol that's the same thing I was thinking, but I think you did yours right though!!!

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posted March 20, 2012 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for s4nd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
doux ur dwad sun is on my natal taurus sun

iamloved ur dwad venus is on my natal moon.
dwad neptune on my natal jupiter.
dwad pluto on my natal neptune.
dwad nn on my natal mars
dwad mc on my natal vertex

none are exact tho except the neptune on jupiter so i dunno as the ones ceridwen mentioned in our charts are exact.

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posted March 20, 2012 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IamLoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@DepTaurus.... thank you soooo much for starting this post and for posting this info! What an eye opener for me!!

Below is a quote from what you wrote at the very beginning of this forum. I bolded the part that was most true in how I feel about the relationship between me and this person.
I guess it is a mutual feeling.

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When you meet someone with dwad-Sun conjunct your own dwad-Sun, it may feel like you met your inner soul mate, often there is immediate mutual understanding. For instance, Vita Sackville-West, who had this conjunction with her husband, Harold Nicolson, said that her husband understood her in everything.

People with this conjunction usually have a similar way of expressing their creativity, thus their 'recognize' themselves in each other's creative products. For instance Anais Nin, who had her dwad-Sun in conjunct with Edith Wharton's dwad-Sun, wrote after reading Edith Wharton's book: It appealed to me because it is written exactly as I would like to write ..

Dwad-Sun conjunctions create intensity, often kind of either-or contacts, indifference is very rare. Because of the unconsciousness involved they can also create strong obsessions as happened, for instance, between Truman Capote and Andy Warhol. Capote and Warhol had their dwad-Suns in conjunction. When Warhol came to New York he used to stand outside Capote's house waiting for Capote to come out. "He nearly drove me crazy", wrote Truman Capote

We do not often meet people who resonate with us both on the spiritual and on the soul level, but when we meet such persons, we never forget them. They stay forever in our inner lives, we feel good in remembering them. The more we know such people, the more lovelier we create our own inner world. They are people who share our deepest longings, who find meaning in same things we do... They make us feel more alive than ever. And in their company we really are more alive...

"A soul mate is someone who has locks that fit our keys, and keys to fit our locks. When we feel safe enough to open the locks, our truest selves step out and we can be completely and honestly who we are; we can be loved for who we are and not for who we're pretending to be. Each unveils the best part of the other." - Richard Bach



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posted March 20, 2012 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sand, your dwad Moon is not far away from my natal Moon

Your dwad Sun and Vertex are near my Pluto, your dwad ASC on my Mercury, and dwad Jupiter on my ASC.

I guess conjunctions are the only thing to consider with dwads, right? Other aspects wouldn't be very significant.

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posted March 20, 2012 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IamLoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by s4nd:
doux ur dwad sun is on my natal taurus sun

iamloved ur dwad venus is on my natal moon.
dwad neptune on my natal jupiter.
dwad pluto on my natal neptune.
dwad nn on my natal mars
dwad mc on my natal vertex

none are exact tho except the neptune on jupiter so i dunno as the ones ceridwen mentioned in our charts are exact.



You're still my astro twin no matter what lol

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posted March 20, 2012 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for s4nd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux R�ve:
Sand, your dwad Moon is not far away from my natal Moon

we must be soul enemies then!

edit: oh we can't count that moon on moon thing i just read. has to be in the same sign. i guess u r early virgo moon..

we still sun on sun soul enemies tho!

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posted March 20, 2012 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for s4nd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IamLoved:

You're still my astro twin no matter what lol

haha cuute! ryt on!

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posted March 20, 2012 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IamLoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol

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posted March 21, 2012 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
on a scale of 1-10 of importance between dwads and parallels. parallels get 10 and dwads 3......


Apples and Oranges.

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posted March 21, 2012 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a Duad is:

Basically it is the projection of the whole zodiac into one sign, thus slicing the sign into little units of 2,5° (whereas 2°30 represent one Duad sign).

It gives an additonal information to the basic signplacement.
Everyone born in the same month can claim to be a Sagittarius or Aries or Cancer ...
the Duad gives a little more info about that; the idea behind it is that someone with a Sun in 01° of a sign will have certain difference to a Sun in 20° of the same sign, even though of course there are the similiarities still (they are in the same sign after all!).

So far - and I am still researching- I tentatively see them as similiar to dispositors (not really clear about their difference yet), that if someone has, let`s say, a Pisces Sun, and all your personal planets are in Gemini and Leo, but your Duads are in Pisces, then there might be a subtle understanding and tuning in with the Pisces qualities of the other person (or the other way round), despite the still existing differences in personality.

Of course there is much more to explore about Duads than this.
I don´t believe though they are really "subconscious" (as in: you are not really aware of them). They rather add a flavour to your already existing signplacements, and at least for myself I can say I STRONGLY react to my Duad-Venus on 13 Pisces. Granted it is conjunct Jupiter on 11 Pisces, which is my chartruler, but whenever someone ticks off the 10-15 degree of Pisces or Virgo (have seen that especially with their Mars position), my "Venusian motor" gets started off.
I think though it is stronger for that placement because I ahve my chartruler there as well.

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posted March 21, 2012 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for s4nd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
y is neptune the strongest duad connection? coz it is a 12th harmonic chart?

If you add Neptune to dwad-contacts, you get deepest inner contacts possible. Carlyle and Tennyson had Sun-Neptune contact both in the radix and in dwads: Carlyle's Sun was on Tennyson's Neptune, Tennyson's dwad-Sun on Carlyle's dwad-Neptune. They used sometimes to sit for hours without a word, they just smoked their pipes. Only their eyes reflected their inner happenings. The first time they spoke was when they thanked each other for a nice evening and agreed to meet again.

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posted March 21, 2012 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by s4nd:
y is neptune the strongest duad connection? coz it is a 12th harmonic chart?

If you add Neptune to dwad-contacts, you get deepest inner contacts possible. Carlyle and Tennyson had Sun-Neptune contact both in the radix and in dwads: Carlyle's Sun was on Tennyson's Neptune, Tennyson's dwad-Sun on Carlyle's dwad-Neptune. They used sometimes to sit for hours without a word, they just smoked their pipes. Only their eyes reflected their inner happenings. The first time they spoke was when they thanked each other for a nice evening and agreed to meet again.


The Duads are not really a 12th harmonic chart (though Dwads are).
I think Neptune is mentioned here is because it is said to be so spiritual and I think the original author of that peace had a liking for Neptune.

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posted March 21, 2012 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for s4nd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ic ic haha i hate that sometimes when writers/astrologers are biased with their own placements but i guess it is hard to avoid. sometimes it is just so obvious that the article loses credibility.

this one wasn't so obvious to me. i thought it had a connection to the 12th and it's ruler neptune..

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posted March 21, 2012 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by s4nd:
we must be soul enemies then!

edit: oh we can't count that moon on moon thing i just read. has to be in the same sign. i guess u r early virgo moon..

we still sun on sun soul enemies tho!


Eh, why soul enemies? Unless you want to be my enemy - then beware, fellow MIS

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posted March 21, 2012 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IamLoved:
@DepTaurus.... thank you soooo much for starting this post and for posting this info! What an eye opener for me!!

Below is a quote from what you wrote at the very beginning of this forum. I bolded the part that was most true in how I feel about the relationship between me and this person.
I guess it is a mutual feeling.

[QUOTE]
[b]When you meet someone with dwad-Sun conjunct your own dwad-Sun, it may feel like you met your inner soul mate, often there is immediate mutual understanding.
For instance, Vita Sackville-West, who had this conjunction with her husband, Harold Nicolson, said that her husband understood her in everything.

People with this conjunction usually have a similar way of expressing their creativity, thus their 'recognize' themselves in each other's creative products. For instance Anais Nin, who had her dwad-Sun in conjunct with Edith Wharton's dwad-Sun, wrote after reading Edith Wharton's book: It appealed to me because it is written exactly as I would like to write ..

Dwad-Sun conjunctions create intensity, often kind of either-or contacts, indifference is very rare. Because of the unconsciousness involved they can also create strong obsessions as happened, for instance, between Truman Capote and Andy Warhol. Capote and Warhol had their dwad-Suns in conjunction. When Warhol came to New York he used to stand outside Capote's house waiting for Capote to come out. "He nearly drove me crazy", wrote Truman Capote

We do not often meet people who resonate with us both on the spiritual and on the soul level, but when we meet such persons, we never forget them. They stay forever in our inner lives, we feel good in remembering them. The more we know such people, the more lovelier we create our own inner world. They are people who share our deepest longings, who find meaning in same things we do... They make us feel more alive than ever. And in their company we really are more alive...

"A soul mate is someone who has locks that fit our keys, and keys to fit our locks. When we feel safe enough to open the locks, our truest selves step out and we can be completely and honestly who we are; we can be loved for who we are and not for who we're pretending to be. Each unveils the best part of the other." - Richard Bach


[/B][/QUOTE]

No problem,i was amazed by it when i first looked into it and it seem`s like you think "oh i know everything i can about astrology now" then something comes along that takes you even deeper and deeper.

It never ends really, happy you enjoy gaing as much as you can from this.

@ Ceridwen your a bit of an expert,your just posting great info nice work.

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posted March 21, 2012 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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ic ic haha i hate that sometimes when writers/astrologers are biased with their own placements but i guess it is hard to avoid. sometimes it is just so obvious that the article loses credibility.

this one wasn't so obvious to me. i thought it had a connection to the 12th and it's ruler neptune..


Well, of course I can be wrong, though.

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posted March 21, 2012 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DepTaurus:
your just posting great info nice work.

Thanks.

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posted March 21, 2012 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with DepTaurus, Ceridwen, you're amazing! So much information from you, thank you very much for contributing

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