posted September 15, 2009 01:02 AM            

I think it is definitely a mutual thing

posted September 15, 2009 01:05 AM            

However, there's not necessarily a correlation between this placement and sexual passion...obviously, both charts need to be taken into account. It could play out in terms of other 8th house issues, playing up the house person's sense of what other people "have", debt, death, transformation, battles for power.

posted September 15, 2009 04:30 PM            

In your example, the house person will experience the planet person in an 8th house way. The other person's body energy will touch their 8th house. In a sexual relationship, the house person will feel like the Mars person physically expresses themselves in a way that the house person desires. To put it simply, the Mars person will turn on the house person.

In turn, the planet person experiences their body energy as impacting the house person in that way. When in the house person's company, they'll perceive their own Mars as playing an 8th house role.

I think things can get one-sided because the planet person is more focused on the self - I'm like this - while the house person focuses on the other - you make me feel like this.

posted September 15, 2009 05:14 PM            

Each person will feel:
-the other person's planets falling into her/his houses in that area of life...for example, if someone's giant stellium falls into your 9th, that person may shape your philosophy or travel experiences. He/she will feel you in the areas where YOUR planets fall in his/her chart.
-the mutual contacts between planets...for instance, if A's Saturn in A's 5th conjuncts B's Saturn in B's 8th, A will feel that dynamic in relation to his/her own 5th house issues. B will feel that dynamic in relation to his/her 8th house issues.

posted September 15, 2009 05:25 PM            

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We'd probably all agree that it's impossible to determine someone's level of attraction from an isolated synastry aspect.

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It also seems to me that it's impossible to determine somebody's attraction level from a whole slew of aspects that ought to, all together and studied within the context of each natal, indicate intense attraction. I find this one of the major problems of synastry. Mathematically, synastry indicates that everyone effects us--sure, some people's charts hit more of our natal power points more exactly than others--but in synastry, EVERYTHING in your chart will hit some spot on the other person's chart and vice-versa.

Whereas in real life, sometimes you just won't care at all about someone, even if they have a huge stellium exactly conjuncting your 5th house Eros-Sun. Even if you have 80 "soul mate" aspects.

Synastry shows potential. As with genetics, you can have a 99% chance of having a certain cancer, and never get that cancer. There are no 100% chances in potential.

That said, as one "cookbook" aspect, I really do think only the house person would feel the Mars...even if the house person has 8th house planets conjuncting the Mars, the Mars person will feel those aspects in his or her natal Mars house, not with an 8th house flavor. In my opinion.

posted September 15, 2009 05:48 PM            

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It also seems to me that it's impossible to determine somebody's attraction level from a whole slew of aspects that ought to, all together and studied within the context of each natal, indicate intense attraction.

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I agree with that, and I even considered saying it. But I was trying to stay more focused on the particular question rather than get into my philosophy around it, something I'm not good at resisting. So thanks for making resisting even harder for me, Lucia, jeez!

We're not determined by our natals, and relationships aren't determined by synastry and composites. Astrology shows tendencies and potentials, but can't tell us what will come of that.

I'm not an astrological reductionist - we're more than our charts. There's something about us that transcends the personality shown in a chart (natal or relationship). And to me, it's from that part of ourselves that we live and love at our truest.

So when I say that it's impossible to determine someone's level of attraction from an isolated synastry aspect, I mean on the astro potential level. It's impossible to see the tendency from that one aspect.