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jane
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posted September 25, 2009 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think of it as the composite is like the society, and the synastry is the individuals living in that society. Synastry is what we feel, and the comp is the world in which we're feeling one another.

I don't agree with this fully, but I've read about how the comp shows how you appear to others as an entity. I disagree because I think that's only a small part of what the comp is.

But I do think that our comp may be more apparent to others than it is to ourselves, while we focus more on the synastry. It's sorta like when you visit a foreign country or spend the weekend as a guest in someone else's home. You notice all the differences between your culture and theirs, while to them, their culture is just the way things are.

It took me a while to get a strong feel for composites. Or maybe it just took me a while to drink the kool-aid. No, I really do think there's something to composites. They're the unique world created by the two people.

I like observing how the synastry is part of the composite. For instance, Mars-Pluto synastry translating into an 8th house Mars in the composite.

And the comp can highlight which parts of the synastry most influence the relationship. Say you have multiple tight synastry aspects - the comp can help explain why some dominate the relationship. It'll show how the synastry is focused.

For example, my SO and I have some strong eros aspects in synastry. Then in the comp, we have:
~Eros cnj the Asc 1º
~Eros cnj Sun/Moon mp 0º
~Sun cnj Eros/Psyche mp 0º

Then when I connect the comp back to our natals, we have:
~Comp Sun cnj my natal Eros and (by a few degrees) his natal ASC
~Comp Moon cnj his natal Eros and (by a few degrees) my natal ASC

It's fun to see how synastry, comps, and natals are all connected.

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comica23
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posted September 25, 2009 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This doesn't have to do with this thread itself, but.. woah, what great aspects, jane!

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jane
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posted September 25, 2009 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can't complain.

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EighthMoon
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posted September 25, 2009 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This doesn't have to do with the thread either, unless someone is interested in comparing Jane's and my synastry and composite, but I can't tell you the warm fuzzy feeling I have simply to see "JANE" back! Lol. (I'm such a geek.)
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lalalinda
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posted September 25, 2009 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy Birthday steelrose
(September 19)
Hope your day was terrific

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jane
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posted September 26, 2009 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
8th Moon

You affect me the same way. In fact, if I were to create a cocktail in your honor, I would call it The Warm Fuzzy. And I would love to look at our composite. My Virgo Mars could get all up in that! Shall I give you my info or you give me yours? Your (birth)place or mine?

I gotta say though, I'm starting to get an eve complex! So much for "a rose by any other name."

comica

As the one who derailed this thread, I think it falls upon you to bring it back on point. Hit us with some more comp/synastry insights. I know you have more!

Happy Belated Bday, steelrose!

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EighthMoon
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posted September 28, 2009 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure Jane! I'll e mail it to ya!

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EighthMoon
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posted October 01, 2009 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"It's my feeling that composites aren't accurate for short-term. A composite won't show if the thing is solid, even if it's got 7th house heaven and earth painted all over it...if the thing doesn't exist, then there's no substance what you're looking it - it's a mirage."

True, as composites play out over time. We can't see all of the action from the placements/aspects all at once. One thing that I noticed though, is that a composite CAN show a relationship that can't get off the ground with aspects such as a composite Venus square Saturn. So, I guess it can also reflect those that aren't long term in that way. Or if one is a mirage, then I'd expect to see some composite Neptune oppositions or squares, perhaps.

This may also be where transits/progressions enter the picture. Maybe that determines whether the relationship is "activated" or not. (So much to think about, so little time!)

"I gotta say though, I'm starting to get an eve complex! So much for "a rose by any other name."

No worries, Jane. We all still consider your womb as the center of the universe whether we call you Eve or not...lol.

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posted February 09, 2010 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for karena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I look at both. Synastry for initial impulses, and Composite for trends. Composite charts have resonated a lot for me in all of my relationships.I actually believe the composite is more important to look at, the opposite of Redstar's view. I think a great composite can make up for crappy synastry. "

I totally agree with amowls*
My best friends and I always have significant Composites,but the Synastries may not be so impressing.

To me synastry is only the potential to establish a relationship.The more aspects(whether good or bad) or midpoints hard aspects(I consider the latter more important)in a synastry,the more potential to develop a significant relationship. However, it is the good/bad aspects in Composite that really matter in respect to how the relationship goes.For example,in my experience Sun/Moon square in Composite NEVER has happy ending in significant relationships no matter how the synastry is.Couples with Composite S/M squares either break up finally or have a marriage full of conflict.

As for asteroids,it is indeed necessary to look at both Synastry and Composite for aspects to the "main" relationship asteroids such as Valentine, Amor, Adonis, Aphrodite, Eros, Psyche, Karma, as well as the lover/soulmate archetypes asteroids. But other asteroids, in my opinion, might only be worth to look in Composite.Generally they are far more meaningful in Composite than in Synastry.

But what is interesting is that I often found that couples with very intense synastries usually have not-so-significant composites,and vice versa.So I'm wondering if they can make up for each other?

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posted February 09, 2010 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey DD,

what do you think of the composite venus cancer 28'54 in the first house, in opposition to composite vertex capricorn 28'25 in the seventh house?

significant?

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slowpoke
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posted February 14, 2010 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi steelrose,

I learned a very good lessen when you using Composite Astrology, if it doesn’t work, don’t use it.

Most people investigate astrology for one purpose, to apply it to their real life situations with the hope that they get the sought after results.

The problem with Composites is that most people do not feel or experience the influences within their real life. One most conceptualize what the Composite results means in their life.

On the other hand, people who investigate through Synastry Astrology influences can feel and experience more closely with what the interpretations are suggesting. Thus, making the use of an astrology tool more relevant.

Challenge yourself once by using both Composite Astrology and Synastry Astrology. Use them in trying to establish a new friendship or relationship. You may find about ten times to one, that Synastry will produce a more satisfying feel of success over its’ counter part.

Technically speaking I have found that the Composite Aspects are, in more cases than not, in complete reverse of the Synastry Aspects. This contrast is what stands out when applying both disciplines to the initial meeting of new people.

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foxyvilla
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posted May 18, 2011 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for foxyvilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
l prefer synastry because it tells how two people interact

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FireFish
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posted September 18, 2013 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am using Linda's book, Love Signs, and am wondering - is the chart she instructs us to use a composite? Or a synastry?

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