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Lonake
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posted February 16, 2011 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's another issue.

There's more than one type of physical beauty.

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Betty Boop
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posted February 16, 2011 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think women with Taurus/Cancer influence can be very attractive because they ooze femininity... Even if they don't have perfect features.. or features suited to whatever the cultural ideal *is* -- They are still considered very sexually attractive.

But I think the current supermodel standard of beauty suits Gemini/Virgo best -- The wiry thin figure (with some fire in their chart, for average to good muscle tone)

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posted February 16, 2011 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heavenlyhera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's it mean when you have Aphrodite in 7th house Leo?

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posted February 17, 2011 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heavenlyhera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
I've seen many venus on asc fail. Just charm... I am interested to see saturn in libra right on asc. Or pisces asc with sun,venus conjunction. I read somewhere that for beauty should look to gem,vir,aqua... Human signs-beauty.


VENUS!!! I have someone for you. I am going to get his picture for you a little later. But my ex. I know he is a guy. But he has Pisces Sun/Venus/Asc all conjucting within like a 1 degree orb. And to top it off he has Moon Aquarius in the 11th house. Which is usually like a fame aspect...very true. He did a bunch of stuff for tv when he was younger and lived in Orlando and did some things with Disney channel too. LOL

He is a metal drummer now. But he is also my ex I fight with all the time. The same ex I have a hot dinner date with again on Friday night ;-)

He has beautiful eyes. They're big tealish and sweet looking. And he is super sensitive in bed. But the thing is, when I first met him in my lit course..I thought he was the most beautiful thing ever. He looks so dreamy, mystical and soft. I told him this exact thing..his smartass reply, "So I'm a Unicorn?"

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posted February 17, 2011 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
I think women with Taurus/Cancer influence can be very attractive because they ooze femininity...

See I totally have to disagree, my favorite type of women are very martian, love Aries women and Scorpio/ Leo combos in a women, like Chloe Sevigny...

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posted February 17, 2011 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LONAKE,
["For iQ's criteria I have one of the ugly aspects, Venus square Saturn..."]
~ I feel that perhaps one or few aspects isnt enough to bring one down. You probably have other factors in your chart to neutralize it. My Venus is receiving a Square beat down from Moon, Mars, NN. I also have Sun square Aphrodite exact. Saturn squaring all my angles, as it's conjunct my ASC smack on. Just judging from my chart...it's quite harsh.


VENUSDI,
["I am interested to see saturn in libra right on asc."

~ I've got that. Libra Asc conjunct Saturn by half degree. I think it's given me reeeally pale skin. Somewhat angular features...like; really high cheekbones, high/narrow bridge but yet small pointed nose. Big eyes with high very arched eyebrows.
My older bro basically looks just like me, & we've both got Air Asc/Venus 1H. People say we could pass as bro/sis twins. We've got the same nose, eyes, mouth etc, but I noticed the biggest difference between us is my really high cheekbones & much paler skin...it must be Saturn.

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posted February 17, 2011 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Altho!
I will tell you!
I did read in one text that Saturn in Libra brought a refined brunette beauty to the native (if they were inclined to darker tones).
Libra is a refined sign, and it's where Saturn is exalted.

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posted February 17, 2011 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LONAKE,

I forgot to mention. My cousin has Venus-Saturn-Sun all conjunct. Her chart's in my Jupiter thread --> http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/207281.html

She's actually quite beautiful despite having supposedly harsh Saturn.

Yeah that's right, I do have dark hair, but just coupled with very white skin. I suppose since my Saturn is exalted, it didnt cause hardcore damage.
Now I'm wondering what someone with Cappy Asc conjunct Saturn would look like....

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posted February 17, 2011 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Read the thread down below, ay lemme find it,

He has Cap rising, with Saturn in Cap in the 1st, with a host of other planets there too, I was so interested I had to ask!

OK,
Thread, http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/207347.html
Pic http://img232.imageshack.us/i/picture0319s.jpg/

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posted February 17, 2011 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your friend has such a unique chart!

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posted February 17, 2011 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LONAKE,
His chart's very interesting...thanks! Seems very super focused. I cant say that he (physically) strikes me as very cappy looking on first impressions. Although I'm not sure what I would've pegged him. I suppose all those diff planets have altered his look. Despite smiling, he does give me a vibe of this quiet seriousness, which is Cappy. I'm not sure how old he is, but if he is "younger," he would definitely seem older due to a serious tone. I'm still curious what someone who only has Cappy Asc tightly conjunct Saturn would look like,... with no other planets conjuncting for alterations.

As for myself, I dont actually physically look older than my age...People do tell me I "seem," older. Physically I tend to get guesses of 5yrs younger than my actual age. I think it's also cuz Mercury is conjunct my Saturn exact.

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posted February 17, 2011 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agent_009,cool! Ur saturn,applying?? R u tall? Over 175cm? I would throw u into modelling!
Does anyone know venus on leo asc example??

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posted February 17, 2011 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
VenusDi,

Hahaa. I'm 5'7, taller than the average female height, but not model tall. When I was 17/18, I was scouted & did dabble a bit in modeling, but more print adds. Also was in a beauty pageant at 22 (didnt win), & that's as far as modeling related went. For some reason I wasnt really interested & didnt pursue it...just wanted to focus on film related.


I know a man with LEO Venus & Mars conj Pluto. He's very very goodlooking & oozes sex appeal. I dont know his birth time so not sure if it's conjunct ASC.

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posted February 17, 2011 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WateryAir33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if it can be seen in the chart really. I have sun in Libra, Mercury in Libra, and Venus in Libra. And I don't think I fit into the "classic" definition of beauty. I do think I'm decent though.

I've seen a lot of sun signs and natal charts that are made up of less than beautiful signs but the actual person was stunning so I don't know.

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posted February 17, 2011 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agreed. Physical features are determined by genetics, end of story. I believe you can trace magnetism in the natal chart but only things as far as internal situations are concerned.

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posted February 17, 2011 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I get so annoyed whenever this topic comes up.

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posted February 17, 2011 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I remember an older discussion about karma being passed on to the children - certain aspects the parents have in the chart get passed along in their children.
Almost always, we use "karma" with a negative connotation, but karma is also positive. I believe it is possible that a certain aspect, venus on asc for instance, to be "inherited" from one or both the parents - thus accounting for "genetics".

Venus, I have Saturn on the asc too. It's a close conjunction. I don't think it's an applying aspect, it's in the 12th, but it's retrograde, and I'm to lazy to google it

Libra is how others perceieve me, I suppose - venus, ruler of the asc, is accidentally dignified in my 7th, conjunct sun and mars. They're in a close trine with neptune, and a loose opposition to pluto in the 1st (I'm mentioning that one, because it always bugs me, more than other hard aspects in my chart). But Saturn gave really good bone structure. Teeth problems, also I seem to keep fixing them every transit, and they keep migrating or getting cavities in between, blah.

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posted February 17, 2011 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JohnFKennedy:
Agreed. Physical features are determined by genetics, end of story. I believe you can trace magnetism in the natal chart but only things as far as internal situations are concerned.

That is why it helps to have attractive parents!

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posted February 18, 2011 03:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starzy54     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The distance between a womans eyes and her mouth are key factors that determine how appealing she is, according to researchers from the University of California, San Diego (UCSD), and the University of Toronto (UT).Female faces were judged more attractive when the vertical space between their eyes and mouth was about 36 per cent of facial length, and the horizontal space between their eyes was about 46 per cent of facial width.

That is an excerpt of an article i read...
So lets get our some measuring tape! lol
Idk..for a Guy I find Gemini Rising quite nice,boyish and youthful.Just me though

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posted February 18, 2011 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:
I get so annoyed whenever this topic comes up.

Why??

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posted February 18, 2011 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frozen Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aside from Venus, the Moon, Jupiter and Neptune are considered to be related to beauty especially if placed in the Water signs Cancer and Pisces and in the Air sign of Libra. I won't include Scorpio because anyone with heavy Scorpio influence is not really beautiful, magnetic yes but not pretty.
Air and Water in a chart, Neptune aspects and Pisces placements do give an ethereal look to the person.
I agree with a previous poster that outer planets in close aspects to the personal planets and angles can give rise to an otherworldly aura: mysterious and elusive. I've also found that the harsh aspects give rise to a more magnetic beauty than trines and sextiles.

As for the subjectivity of this, a person's chart can also show what they find beautiful. I find myself turned off by the model types or the obvious hunks because even if I can see why they might be considered good looking, they don't float my boat. I like athletic bodies(Aries Mars in 8th) but I crave intensity - way too much Scorpio in my chart - and the deep, smouldering eyes turn me into jell-o in no time. I also find myself attracted to someone's intellect and spirituality as filters through the prism of their 3D bodies, as ORBM so succinctly put, so I am attracted to someone on so many levels.

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posted February 18, 2011 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Why??


Because I thought it was pretty obvious by now that this is subjective to each and everyone of us. I think these threads just give room for the concieted to overinflate the already inflated egos because "OMGZ, I have Venus conjunct Ascendant".

I won't lie, I have an unaspected venus and Chiron in the 6th.....looks are a bit of a sore spot for me.

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posted February 18, 2011 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:

Because I thought it was pretty obvious by now that this is subjective to each and everyone of us. I think these threads just give room for the concieted to overinflate the already inflated egos because "OMGZ, I have Venus conjunct Ascendant".

I won't lie, I have an unaspected venus and Chiron in the 6th.....looks are a bit of a sore spot for me.


EgoZ...
People don't walk around gushing how Earth is heart-shaped,to them! We can live in subjective forever,and everything can be subjective,and most popually beauty,cuz that's comforting. So,subjective perception of beauty. If one doesn't find sb attractive,that doesn't mean that person isn't good-looking. Just,Eye isn't good enough.
But,de gustibus non est disputandum... Drunk,sex-crazed romans,centuries after,and we still quote them

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posted February 18, 2011 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an idea, Sports Illustrated cover girls. That, or Playboy, they pay women to get naked that people want to see naked, am I right? Only problem is not having most of the birth times.

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posted February 18, 2011 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an idea, Sports Illustrated cover girls. That, or Playboy, they pay women to get naked that people want to see naked, am I right? Only problem is not having most of the birth times.

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