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Topic: Physical Beauty in the Natal Chart
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starzy54 Knowflake Posts: 489 From: CA Registered: Feb 2010
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posted February 19, 2011 01:23 AM
Beauty varies depending on the society you live in.Even than there are people who are going to find society's perspective of beauty warped or unattractive. For instance in countries such as Mauritania,woman who are quite obese and large are found to be beautiful and are lusted after.Its a symbol of vitality and means the woman comes from a prosperous family.They take pride in a large wife,and see her as a trophy of prosperity,wealth and abundance.I think all women are beautiful and should see them selves this way. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6614 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted February 19, 2011 02:29 AM
I find interesting Liz Taylor's chart (astro.com) ! She has Venus cnjc Uranus,exact,sq Pluto,trine Jupiter,quincunx Moon. 11th H Moon,Sag Asc. Scorpio,aries combo is very obvious with her, ScorpioMoon,AriesVenus.IP: Logged |
joyrjw Knowflake Posts: 432 From: Indianapolis, USA Registered: Nov 2010
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posted February 19, 2011 07:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by vertiver: Well you have a Virgo Moon, and women with this placement tend to be really hard on themselves as far as their physical appearence, but the fact is they are some of the most gorgeous women. And a Scorpio stellium in the 5th house, that just sounds like sex appeal, lol!
I've been told that I'm way too hard on myself as far as my physical appearance goes.
....and I guess it's possible I could be. It's definitely something for me to think about. Thank You vertiver. 
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Pinkie&TheBrain Knowflake Posts: 71 From: Europe Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 10, 2011 02:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I remember someone mentioning Moon conjunct Venus being one aspect in the chart of beautiful people (I forget how they came to that conclusion). I may be pretty in my own way (at times), but I'm not beautiful. I don't look good at all in most photographs.. I used to receive all kinds of cat calls, but I think that was down to my long legs (that no longer look so long), and rather large chest. I also thought that I was ugly, and that they were just teasing, not serious. I've had guys go goopy over me, once they *knew* me, but never beforehand (that I'm aware of). My Venus squares Mars, sextiles Jupiter, trines Pluto, and is inconjunct Uranus/ascendant. My sister, on the other hand, has always been a head-turner; guys tend to go all goopy over her. She's a Capricorn Sun, Pisces Moon & ascendant, with Venus in Aquarius opposing Saturn...
Venus-Mars aspects, especially the hard ones, like the square, give an aura of sexual energy to the person, so even if they are not particularly physically beautiful, they can be very attractive. I once read it gives a kind of "animal sexiness"..lol. I know a few people who have it, and they are very attractive to the opposite sex. Also, about your sister..I have read, and in light of recent investigations through beautiful ppl's charts, that Uranus-Venus combinations give "stunning" features or electric beauty..adding a touch of unusual to the appearance. I know one girl with Venus conjunct Mercury conjunct AC, all opposite Saturn and Uranus and she has stunning eyes, that's for sure..I think most people would call her beautiful, overall, but she is not without flaws..in fact her face is quite bony, oval/diamon-shaped, with high cheekbones, a strong, relatively narrow nose, with a bump in the middle, and small mouth with thin lips, but well-shaped. Her eyes, however,are a very sparkling color...like light green mixed with bits of yellow and blue..it's like almost impossible to look her in the eyes, because you get distracted by all the color..lol. Her features are also quite well-proportioned, and she is quite cold-looking, although vivacious in expression. She is a Gemini with Aquarius Moon, and Cancer Rising..so her Rising ruler is also in Aquarius...anyway, I think most guys would go ga-ga for her at first sight. IP: Logged |
Pinkie&TheBrain Knowflake Posts: 71 From: Europe Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 10, 2011 02:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I remember someone mentioning Moon conjunct Venus being one aspect in the chart of beautiful people (I forget how they came to that conclusion). I may be pretty in my own way (at times), but I'm not beautiful. I don't look good at all in most photographs.. I used to receive all kinds of cat calls, but I think that was down to my long legs (that no longer look so long), and rather large chest. I also thought that I was ugly, and that they were just teasing, not serious. I've had guys go goopy over me, once they *knew* me, but never beforehand (that I'm aware of). My Venus squares Mars, sextiles Jupiter, trines Pluto, and is inconjunct Uranus/ascendant. My sister, on the other hand, has always been a head-turner; guys tend to go all goopy over her. She's a Capricorn Sun, Pisces Moon & ascendant, with Venus in Aquarius opposing Saturn...
Venus-Mars aspects, especially the hard ones, like the square, give an aura of sexual energy to the person, so even if they are not particularly physically beautiful, they can be very attractive. I once read it gives a kind of "animal sexiness"..lol. I know a few people who have it, and they are very attractive to the opposite sex. Also, about your sister..I have read, and in light of recent investigations through beautiful ppl's charts, I tend to think it's true, that Uranus-Venus combinations give "stunning" features or electric beauty..adding a touch of unusual to the appearance. I know one girl with Venus conjunct Mercury conjunct AC, all opposite Saturn and Uranus and she has stunning eyes, that's for sure..I think most people would call her beautiful, overall, but she is not without flaws..in fact her face is quite bony, oval/diamon-shaped, with high cheekbones, a strong, relatively narrow nose, with a bump in the middle, and small mouth with thin lips, but well-shaped. Her eyes, however,are a very sparkling color...like light green mixed with bits of yellow and blue..it's like almost impossible to look her in the eyes, because you get distracted by all the color..lol. Her features are also quite well-proportioned, and she is quite cold-looking, although vivacious in expression. She is a Gemini with Aquarius Moon, and Cancer Rising..so her Rising ruler is also in Aquarius...anyway, I think most guys would go ga-ga for her at first sight. IP: Logged |
Pinkie&TheBrain Knowflake Posts: 71 From: Europe Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 10, 2011 02:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by DiandraReborn25: lEt me show you the chart of one of the most beautiful woman i ever met:my Mother! she remembers me a mix of Gina Lolobrigida with Briggite Bardot i put some asteroids of classical beauties in it and look:she hasnt got the ones you listed,instead she has - Venus in 7h cj Audrey Hepburn - ASC Virgo cj Kleopatra and Grace Kelly - Jup cj ASC - kiron with nep in the 1st:maybe this one makes her feel wounded in her beauty?and neptune there gives her an air of dreamy look. what do you htink that in her chart.gives her that beautiful look?
holy crap..your mother has the same Sun/Moon/AC combination as I do. I might be stretching this a bit, but I think I actually look a bit like her... http://www.tribe.net/template/pub,PopPic.vm?picURL=http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/2b3/c94/2b3c9486-1eda-4058-850b-e6c9259a55c3&altText=... http://www.tribe.net/template/pub,PopPic.vm?picURL=http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/0b5/b17/0b5b1740-03fc-48d0-bcbf-06eed3da228b&altText=.... http://www.tribe.net/template/pub,PopPic.vm?picURL=http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/8d6/34d/8d634d6b-dbb7-4e4c-950e-44df06763dd1&altText=the%20jaws%20and%20cheekbones-omf g I would've loved Jupiter on my AC...and Venus in aries, and Mercury in Aqu..I bet your mom never battled depression. I also have Venus trine Pluto, like she does. It's the tightest aspect my Venus makes. I also have Venus cj Sun, sextile Saturn, sextile Neptune, and opposite AC(Sun and Venus opposite AC) My AC's tightest aspects are the oppositions to Venus and AC, but I also have loose trines between my AC and Saturn-Neptune conjunction, plus AC sextile Pluto. My Venus and Mercury are in Pisces, and my Mercury(chart ruler) is heavily afflicted, squaring a Moon-Mars-Jupiter stellium in Gemini. IP: Logged |
Pinkie&TheBrain Knowflake Posts: 71 From: Europe Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 10, 2011 02:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by DiandraReborn25: lEt me show you the chart of one of the most beautiful woman i ever met:my Mother! she remembers me a mix of Gina Lolobrigida with Briggite Bardot i put some asteroids of classical beauties in it and look:she hasnt got the ones you listed,instead she has - Venus in 7h cj Audrey Hepburn - ASC Virgo cj Kleopatra and Grace Kelly - Jup cj ASC - kiron with nep in the 1st:maybe this one makes her feel wounded in her beauty?and neptune there gives her an air of dreamy look. what do you htink that in her chart.gives her that beautiful look?
holy crap..your mother has the same Sun/Moon/AC combination as I do. I might be stretching this a bit, but I think I actually look a bit like her... http://www.tribe.net/template/pub,PopPic.vm?picURL=http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/2b3/c94/2b3c9486-1eda-4058-850b-e6c9259a55c3&altText=... http://www.tribe.net/template/pub,PopPic.vm?picURL=http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/0b5/b17/0b5b1740-03fc-48d0-bcbf-06eed3da228b&altText=.... http://www.tribe.net/template/pub,PopPic.vm?picURL=http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/8d6/34d/8d634d6b-dbb7-4e4c-950e-44df06763dd1&altText=the%20jaws%20and%20cheekbones-omf g I would've loved Jupiter on my AC...and Venus in aries, and Mercury in Aqu..I bet your mom never battled depression. I also have Venus trine Pluto, like she does. It's the tightest aspect my Venus makes. I also have Venus cj Sun, sextile Saturn, sextile Neptune, and opposite AC(Sun and Venus opposite AC) My AC's tightest aspects are the oppositions to Venus and AC, but I also have loose trines between my AC and Saturn-Neptune conjunction, plus AC sextile Pluto. My Venus and Mercury are in Pisces, and my Mercury(chart ruler) is heavily afflicted, squaring a Moon-Mars-Jupiter stellium in Gemini. IP: Logged |
Pinkie&TheBrain Knowflake Posts: 71 From: Europe Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 10, 2011 02:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by JohnFKennedy: Agreed. Physical features are determined by genetics, end of story. I believe you can trace magnetism in the natal chart but only things as far as internal situations are concerned.
I would disagree about astrology not playing a part in that... There are features that suggest a certain type of energy...like, for instance, Scorpio Risings or people with hard Pluto-AC aspects usually have hooded eyes to emphasize their intense stare. Besides, do you know astrofaces? Check this out: http://astrofaces.com/astrofaces/index.html IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 2400 From: Portland, OR Registered: May 2009
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posted June 10, 2011 04:03 PM
Haha, I'm on there, I totally forgot... Look up Leo Sun, with Pisces Moon and Sag. ASC. IP: Logged |
JohnFKennedy Knowflake Posts: 587 From: US Registered: Aug 2009
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posted June 10, 2011 04:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by Pinkie&TheBrain: I would disagree about astrology not playing a part in that... There are features that suggest a certain type of energy...like, for instance, Scorpio Risings or people with hard Pluto-AC aspects usually have hooded eyes to emphasize their intense stare.Besides, do you know astrofaces? Check this out: http://astrofaces.com/astrofaces/index.html
I completely agree that signs and placements give people distinct levels of energy, I just don't feel facial features are really molded by it at all with the exception of the glint of the eyes. I bet you if I were to post my picture here nearly no one would be able to guess what my rising/sun/moon were in all seriousness IP: Logged |
SmilingHeart Knowflake Posts: 1069 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 11, 2011 04:24 AM
Well, I don't consider myself a beauty and I have Venus conjunct the ASC. I know that I can be charming... maybe that's all this aspect is really about. For some weird reason some people think I'm gorgeous while others think I'm kind of ugly. I'm for sure not universally beautiful. ASC cj Venus cj Mercury trine Uranus trine Neptune square Mars Venus makes the exact same aspects.
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Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9947 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 11, 2011 04:27 AM
I can't really go along with that since I believe in face reading, that different features tell different stories, but it's based more on dominants in the chart (signs and planets) rather than the exact signs of sun moon asc imo.IP: Logged |
SmilingHeart Knowflake Posts: 1069 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 11, 2011 04:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: I can't really go along with that since I believe in face reading, that different features tell different stories, but it's based more on dominants in the chart (signs and planets) rather than the exact signs of sun moon asc imo.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 72835 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 11, 2011 04:31 AM
My mother has Venus conjunct the ASC and she is charming. Would Venus do DIFFERENT things if it were trined ,opposed,squared or conjunct? Thanks !------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9947 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 11, 2011 04:54 AM
Like a strong Mercury may give looks reminiscent of Gemini or Virgo. Or a strong stellium in 3rd house may give similar. So you're looking at traits that are dominant in the personality which imo will show in the physicality as well.IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6614 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted June 11, 2011 12:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: Like a strong Mercury may give looks reminiscent of Gemini or Virgo. Or a strong stellium in 3rd house may give similar. So you're looking at traits that are dominant in the personality which imo will show in the physicality as well.
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Chaos Knowflake Posts: 438 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 04:44 PM
My great grandmother, supposedly, used to be exceptionally beautiful when she was young. I have no pics to prove this, all the people that used to know her say this, I can only believe or not believe it's true. She was an Aqua Sun, Scorpio Moon, with 0 degree conjunction of Sun & Venus, so it might be possible...don't know her birht time though, so her Asc is unknown...1st house Moon, that's what many say gives you the looks & special charisma...I have that and I don't thing I'm either charming or beautiful... IP: Logged |
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posted June 12, 2011 10:25 PM
What would Venus square Jupiter and quincunx Ascendant/Neptune do to physical appearance then?IP: Logged |
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posted June 13, 2011 12:57 PM
le bump
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VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6614 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted June 13, 2011 02:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: What would Venus square Jupiter and quincunx Ascendant/Neptune do to physical appearance then?
Ur Neptune is conj Asc,right? IP: Logged |
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posted June 13, 2011 04:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by VenusDiSirius: Ur Neptune is conj Asc,right?
Yes. IP: Logged |
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posted June 13, 2011 07:42 PM
What about it?IP: Logged |
Chiraz Newflake Posts: 1 From: Asia Registered: Dec 2011
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posted December 10, 2011 09:51 PM
physical attractiveness is indicated by the following:when VENUS(beauty) aspects NEPTUNE(the ruler of cutie pisces) in the natalchart. when VENUS(beauty) aspects URANUS(the ruler of georgeous aquarius). when VENUS(beauty) aspects ASCENDANT(the ruler of physical features). when VENUS(beauty) aspects PLUTO(the ruler of magnetic scorpio). when VENUS(beauty) is in HOUSE 1(the ruler of the physical self). when ASCENDANT(physical apearance) is in LIBRA,PISCES, or AQUARIUS. when a Planet esp.(moon or Ascendant) is in 28 degrees of Scorpio. when a Planet esp.(moon or Ascendant) is in 17 degrees of Leo. when a Planet esp.(moon or Ascendant) is in 6 degrees of Taurus. when a Planet esp.(moon or Ascendant) is in 5 degrees of Virgo. when a Planet esp.(moon or Ascendant) is in 24 degrees of Libra. Also when SUN, NEPTUNE, or URANUS aspects Ascendant in natal chart. These are just a few they could be more.just do some research. ..thanx
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posted December 10, 2011 11:30 PM
Oh dear. Beauty aspects, isn't it? It's fifty-fifty if people find me attractive or not. My pic is in that thread. I don't think im "attractive". lol
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lindisfarne Knowflake Posts: 1108 From: she doesn't know that i left my urge in the icebox Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 10, 2011 11:37 PM
Uh Beauty is really not entirely in the eye of the beholder. there are people out there, that are just extremely unattractive physically. And it's not reversible. IP: Logged | |