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Topic: Physical Beauty in the Natal Chart
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KarkaQueen unregistered
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posted December 11, 2011 01:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by lindisfarne: Uh Beauty is really not entirely in the eye of the beholder. there are people out there, that are just extremely unattractive physically. And it's not reversible.
Are you talking to me?
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sand Knowflake Posts: 10270 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted December 11, 2011 04:40 AM
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moonpie Knowflake Posts: 221 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 14, 2011 05:57 PM
I dont think so. I dont think Astrology can determine what is hot and what is not. Thats impossible. Beauty has so many definitions.IP: Logged |
popcorn Knowflake Posts: 3367 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted December 14, 2011 08:12 PM
Moonpie. I agree completely.IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Newflake Posts: 1 From: CA Registered: Sep 2018
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posted December 14, 2011 08:13 PM
Actually it's a common fact that people with Venus in the first house are attractive to pretty much everyone. If not, it's just not their taste, but the person nevertheless accepts that the person is attractive.IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 3972 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 14, 2011 10:07 PM
Like others have said I have some attractiveness going on, but I'm not like drop dead out of this world either. I have flaws I do and don't like. (If I ever have the money I might get a nose job someday, ugh thanks moms genes!)But I do have fine quality hair, good teeth, good cheeks, a nice smile, deep eyes. (D cups and a nice booty.)(but my stomach is not flat)I have Kleopatra conjunct Sun. I read that Kleopatra can give someone a royal air about them, and that they are also obsessed with beauty. I asked my mom if I seem to have a royal air about me, and if I seem obsessed with beauty. "...yes" she said in a dry voice. hahaha I do like to look good but it is so much work. It bugs when I don't have time to put the effort I want into my looks. BUT Practice makes perfect! I usually have time for make up and to pick out a nice/decent outfit. But hair...now that is just too much work and effort for me. Too style my hair everyday...naw. (well now I do moose it after a shower to add volume) I like to have time to sleep in as much as possible in the morning too. I just like my hair to be clean. But for special events I like to style it. It can really take someone to bla from ta da! It just completes the look when your dressed spiffy, and somewhere spiffy. But the more time you take out of your day to do these things the less tedious it becomes. I wasn't always a make up person...but now I'm hoping that someday I will be a hair person. Cause I don't see a glam squad in my future to do it for me. but I would say that I think that pretty much everyone is right about where beauty comes from. *Genes *Peoples opinions and taste(twiggy, playboy model, or big momma body etc) -The way people carry them self -their personality *(and we all pretty much believe that astrological placements give certain inner energies/influences and quirks and such right???!) So I would think astrology could play a role in it. *Another important one how well you take care of your self. -From keeping teeth nice, too putting extra effort in looks...but then some people's beauty habits can be damaging like frying your hair with a straightener everyday. Oh and getting enough sleep. And taking care of your skin in the sun.
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Canadiangirl Knowflake Posts: 883 From: Canada Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 25, 2014 01:26 PM
SmilingHeart: For some weird reason some people think I'm gorgeous while others think I'm kind of ugly. I'm for sure not universally beautiful. ASC cj Venus cj Mercury trine Uranus trine Neptune square Mars--I have similar placements as you and experience the same thing with people. It seems people either think I'm really pretty or ugly. Ascendant sextile venus sextile mercury square mars opposite neptune
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AscTaurus Knowflake Posts: 1201 From: Pretoria, Gauteng,South Africa Registered: May 2009
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posted February 25, 2014 02:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by scrappydog: I agree that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but some people are blessed physically and some are not, the hard facts of life. I've always been a head turner,I've even attracted multiple stalkers in my 29 years, but I have no self confidence and I see the most minor flaws in myself as horrendous and I think everyone else will notice too, despite the fawning I recieve from some men. I think this is the dismorphia or whatever glaucus mentioned. I have to be perfect or I'm not good enough in my eyes. I'm a taurus rising with chiron in 1st conj asc oppose mercury in scorp, Also forms a t square with my nn in leo in my 4th. Maybe this is karmic? In books I read on chiron a couple different astrologers stated chiron in 1st will feel wounded about their appearance if it is not perfect and named beautiful people with this position who were soo insecure over the most minor flaw.
I have Chiron in Taurus/Gemini and the 1st house(though it doesn't form a conjunction to my Asc). And yes, cusps are very REAL. My issue is not my looks but in the way that I express myself. I can be very critical of how others express themselves too. and sometimes, this borders on obsession. In social situations with people who are more educated/more experienced than I am, I can struggle to find my voice. I feel like I am not that intelligent and won't convince anyone.I also stutter when I'm nervous. I actually think that Chiron is the true ruler of Virgo. The obsessive compulsiveness of this energy as well as the feeling of "incompleteness" and "I need to improve" is a very Virgo trait. Having the Chiron in the 1st house cusp, to me, is similar to having Virgo Asc. But I've always assumed that someone with Chiron conjunct their Asc in Taurus would be more insecure about the way they present themselves and their social standing being definitive of their identity i.e; money, clothes, labels, fashion taste, buying power, high-paying job, good looking home in a nice neighborhood etc. Only when Chiron in Aries conjunct the Asc in Taurus by 5 (some say 10 degrees) would the insecurities surrounding ones physical appearance(Aries) be definitive of one's identity. Agree? Disagree?
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next to neptune Knowflake Posts: 3072 From: The Moon Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 25, 2014 02:40 PM
My boyfriend, he is the hottest, sexiest person I've ever seen my whole life!Libra sun in 5th conjunction his libra venus in 5th! Cancer ascendant square venus! Leo jupiter sextile his sun(optimistic and happy) Pisces moon(big beautiful icy-blue eyes) omg and he is romantic and sweet too <3 IP: Logged |
NeptunianSag Knowflake Posts: 1386 From: Your imagination Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 25, 2014 04:08 PM
Venus conjunct Saturn, It's hard having a Venus Saturn aspect because your aware of the concrete harsh realities of beauty, and it feels like hard work trying to feel. Beautiful and good enough. Trying to get people to like you is also an issue, I'm not approachable for some reason, and I don't understand how others attract others without trying. I also feel subtle rejections from people with their body language and that depresses me. I hate how looks obsessed society is, if only we could judge by the beauty of the soul instead. I prefer concentrating on my work and if a person finds me attractive, good for them, because I don't have faith in my beauty or powers of attracting. I honestly think beauty is so overrated and subjective. I don't even find celebrities or models attractivem humans are an ugly and weird looking species anyway, we are all ugly. People with good Venus aspects, enjoy it and don't take it for granted. Because if you had Saturn involved you'll feel like a deformed outcast with no taste or personality. Even though I have Venus trine Jupiter and mercury, I still feel the agonising pain of not being beautiful enough and social rejection is very very painful. I've also got Saturn opposite Chiron in the 10th so public opinion it hurts too much to be thought of as ugly. IP: Logged |
karena Knowflake Posts: 212 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted April 29, 2015 11:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by iQ: Nice topic. My view is that Astrology is the ONLY factor that helps bring objectivity to the subjective topic of beauty. Astrological Placements will help a native be perceived as beautiful by a vast majority of men irrespective of the girl's own thoughts or her genetics or race or size etc etc etc.For feminine beauty in a chart, I look for 1. Sun conj/trine/sextile Venus 2. Strong Libra or Strong 11th House with some extra strength in Taurus 3. Asc, Sun or Moon conjunct tightly to Asteroid ISIS, JUNO, PSYCHE, APHRODITE, NEPHTHYS or SITA 4. Saturn NOT squaring, NOT quincunx nor opp Venus or Mars 5. Strong Sun-Mars or Sun-Pluto links for the super heated sizzle.
Romy Schneider has Venus exact quincunx Saturn in her natal, but she had been considered the most beautiful woman and French people voted her the most beautiful woman in the 20th century. Her love life is quite sad, though.
Farrah Fawcett, the 70's sex symbol,has Mars opp Saturn by 2 orb and Mars contraparallel Saturn in her natal. Natalie Portman has Venus square Saturn by 2 orb in her natal and she is pretty. IP: Logged |
Vixen Knowflake Posts: 367 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted April 30, 2015 01:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by karena: Romy Schneider has Venus exact quincunx Saturn in her natal, but she had been considered the most beautiful woman and French people voted her the most beautiful woman in the 20th century. Her love life is quite sad, though. Farrah Fawcett, the 70's sex symbol,has Mars opp Saturn by 2 orb and Mars contraparallel Saturn in her natal. Natalie Portman has Venus square Saturn by 2 orb in her natal and she is pretty.
I agree, just because you have Venus square Saturn doesn't mean you're unattractive. My friend has Gemini Venus and only aspect it makes is square to Saturn. And no, she's not "ugly". She's pretty in that extremely cute, childlike way and guys stare at her when she's walking down the streets  IP: Logged |
karena Knowflake Posts: 212 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted April 30, 2015 03:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by Vixen: I agree, just because you have Venus square Saturn doesn't mean you're unattractive. My friend has Gemini Venus and only aspect it makes is square to Saturn. And no, she's not "ugly". She's pretty in that extremely cute, childlike way and guys stare at her when she's walking down the streets 
And I just found out that Brooke Shields has Mars exact oppose & contraparallel Saturn, and Brigitte Bardot also has Venus exact quincunx Saturn & Mas oppose Saturn! So they're again proofs that Saturn hard aspect with Venus or Mars doesn't mean ugly or unattractive  IP: Logged |
Vixen Knowflake Posts: 367 From: Registered: Apr 2015
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posted April 30, 2015 02:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by karena: And I just found out that Brooke Shields has Mars exact oppose & contraparallel Saturn, and Brigitte Bardot also has Venus exact quincunx Saturn & Mas oppose Saturn! So they're again proofs that Saturn hard aspect with Venus or Mars doesn't mean ugly or unattractive 
Yup, aspects can manifest in several ways. Venus aspects sometimes influence appearance (aspecially if Venus is ruler of ASC), but most often they influence love life I think that when it comes to physical appearance, aspects to ASC ruler are most important. But genetics is still the most important factor.... I have for example Pluto (ruler of Scorpio ASC) opposite Mars. I think that in some cases it may give harsh facial features, but almost all members of my family had soft-looking face and even men had dreamy quality about them. So instead of masculine features, Pluto opposite Mars probably gave me reddish hair and scar on my left cheek. IP: Logged |
deptic Knowflake Posts: 475 From: Earth, Raised on Pluto Registered: Jun 2014
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posted May 03, 2015 04:23 PM
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karena Knowflake Posts: 212 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted May 06, 2015 10:22 PM
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FayeMaye Knowflake Posts: 206 From: Sweden Registered: Nov 2014
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posted May 08, 2015 12:14 PM
Zayn Malik has pisces Venus 1st house and well HE LOOKS FRIKKIN AMAZAYNIP: Logged |
missblyss Knowflake Posts: 2505 From: Registered: May 2016
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posted January 06, 2016 01:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by joyrjw: I've been told that I'm way too hard on myself as far as my physical appearance goes. ....and I guess it's possible I could be. It's definitely something for me to think about. Thank You vertiver. 
Aww, this is nice to read, I have a virgo moon and am so critical as far as my appearance as well. I can see every imperfection. IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows Knowflake Posts: 4429 From: USA ! Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 06, 2016 09:54 AM
I probably posted in this already but like I try to make myself up and everything. I'm not thin though which is my biggest regret.. I mean these past two weeks I could have lots 4 pounds but instead I EAT. STOP IT DESIRING SHADOWS!!!What else.. Yeah I'm stereotypically pretty besides that.. I have a nice bum and boobs and my teeth are nice not chipped or anything.. I have long blonde hair and I'm not too tall or short so I think I got lucky ish What else ... My half sister is stunningly beautiful..! She's super tall and has super beautiful She's a model sometimes she is a Taurus with Pisces ascendant I am a Libra with Gemini ascendant 😏 There's more to our charts that would probably explain this better but I'm too lazy to look it up.. All I know is Saturn on the 10th either looks really good or really bad and I don't think I look bad so 😝 IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows Knowflake Posts: 4429 From: USA ! Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 06, 2016 09:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by lindisfarne: Uh Beauty is really not entirely in the eye of the beholder. there are people out there, that are just extremely unattractive physically. And it's not reversible.
That doesn't make sense because see, I think you're hot! See what I did there?? Jk btw 💁 IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows Knowflake Posts: 4429 From: USA ! Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 06, 2016 10:05 AM
Also What one person finds attractive is different from the nextSome guys like thick girls some guys like skinny girls Some like enormous breasts others like tiny breasts Etc Personally I try to stay with what's popular vi society because I know most people are brainwashed by society IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows Knowflake Posts: 4429 From: USA ! Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 06, 2016 10:08 AM
And I like to please the masses 😏What else... Yeah u would be surprised by some peoples fetishes IP: Logged |
MilaBirkin Knowflake Posts: 1356 From: Cordoba, Argentina Registered: Jul 2015
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posted January 06, 2016 10:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by next to neptune: My boyfriend, he is the hottest, sexiest person I've ever seen my whole life!Libra sun in 5th conjunction his libra venus in 5th! Cancer ascendant square venus! Leo jupiter sextile his sun(optimistic and happy) Pisces moon(big beautiful icy-blue eyes) omg and he is romantic and sweet too <3
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posted January 06, 2016 11:26 AM
I hate being good looking. It sucks turning everyone on you make eye contact with. Real talk. look at mars and venus and pluto aspects. Nothing else. But you have to understand genetics play a huge role, astro can only do so much dudeIP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 72835 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 06, 2016 02:29 PM
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