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belgz
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posted November 09, 2009 09:11 PM
 
Ok here are 3 charts of my friends who got married recently. The aspects dont seem to be exact though it is applying within 1 degree.This is my friend amanda who got married 2 years ago in january. She met and married her husband within months of meeting each other. Venus had already gone into her 7th house. Progressed sun was 1 degree from an exact conjunction to her 7th house ruler (mercury)... 2 months after getting married she conceived her first baby. SA venus sextile sun (soft aspect in work here) SA n.n sextile sun (1 degree)
SA asc trine moon
SA moon square uranus 
This is her sister who got married 1 month before her..
SA moon is 1 degree away from forming a conjunction with her natal ascendant. She also fell pregnant 1 month after getting married. SA n.n will conjunct DC within (2 degrees)
Sa uranus square uranus (1 degree) 
And this is my other friend who got married 1 year ago.
SA uranus will conjunct Dc in (2 degrees)
SA mercury quincunx mercury
SA mercury will conjunct mars (1 degree)
SA n.n square saturn 
It doesnt seem the Solar Arc aspects always work when exact. It can give or take 1 degree either way. Would you agree?
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posted November 09, 2009 10:37 PM
Belgz in the first chart you posted the ruler of her dsc, mercury is arced to her natal venus, it looks exact. Im on my phone right now but ill have another look at the others later. IP: Logged |
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posted November 09, 2009 11:17 PM
Ok lets say if saturn is the ruler of the 7th house (capricorn) and SA saturn makes a square aspect to venus could that mean marriage regardless of it being a positive or negative aspect?Reason im asking is because in march 2010 my boyfriend will have..
SA saturn at 13 degrees Scorpio
quincunx
his venus at 13 degrees Aries I will also have SA jupiter on my neptune (7th house ruler) SA jupiter will also be sextile my 5th house ruler saturn.. SO the quincunx shows marriage as well so as long as theres an aspect?????? ------------------
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posted November 10, 2009 12:27 AM
I've been into solar arcs for only a few months. I'm sold.  Looking at cnj's, opp's, and squares under 1º:
(I'm not listing all the aspects, just the ones that struck my fancy.) Solar Arcs when we married For me
sa VENUS - IC
sa NEPTUNE - Sun/Moon mp
sa VERTEX - Venus (Venus rules my 7th. Idk if it's kosher to arc a vertex though?)
sa CERES - DC For him
sa MARS - IC (Mars disposits his Venus.)
sa JUPITER - Sun/Moon mp
sa SUN - Amor & sa AMOR - Sun
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posted November 10, 2009 04:25 AM
Seems like very often there is a hard aspect of Venus to an angle or ruler of an angle in SA at least for one person at the time of marriage. Intersting.IP: Logged |
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posted November 10, 2009 04:28 AM
I think one of the reasons SA are not always exact, is that even a minimal different birthtime (even less than 5 minutes difference) might make a difference here.IP: Logged |
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posted November 10, 2009 04:31 AM
Belgz,1st chart you posted:
SA DESC-ruler conjunct Venus
2nd chart you posted:
SA Venus conjunct MC - I know it is separating by 2 degrees, so maybe the birthtime is off a bit?
Also Aries is a very quickly rising sign; sometimes it doesn´t even take one hour to rise, so one or two minutes difference could really make a difference.
3rd chart you posted:
SA ASC square DESCruler (Saturn)
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belgz
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posted November 10, 2009 05:31 AM
Oh i see it now, actually with the second chart she did meet him and marry him legally 1 year earlier i think to bring him to sustralia. So your right, they had the wedding again in 2007 though papers were signed legally overseas.------------------
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posted November 10, 2009 07:10 AM
Great question, but the answer sent shivers down my spine. On the day I got married SA MC is on Pluto, my chart ruler. SA Venus is Trine Mars, not quite so chill inducing.
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posted November 10, 2009 08:23 AM
Blue moon, why chilling?According noel tyl it doesnt matter what kind of aspect it is, so long as its hard. Venus square mc dowsnt mean it will be a bad marriage, just simply a marriage. In fact when he talks about the aspects in his solar arc book he refers to them as "venus=mc" even if its a square or opposition. IP: Logged |
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posted November 10, 2009 08:37 AM
Ok well then i definitely must be getting married in 2011 then.*Transits* Uranus cnj DC
Jupiter cnj DC *Solar arc* SA venus square N.N
SA venus conjunct ASC
SA venus square moon
SA jupiter cnj Nep (7h R) *Solar return* SR ascendant in natal 7th.
SR 7h R in 5th. hahahahah I shall go and celebrateeeeeeeee :P IP: Logged |
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posted November 10, 2009 08:37 AM
He sometimes also considers semisquare and sesisquare.This is pretty common in Uranian astrology / cosmobiology, too. The idea behind it is that hard aspects are indicative of events, as they provide enough energy to "make things happen".
On the other hand Paul Westran found out in his study on progressed synastry (secondary progressions), that the trine between Sun and Venus or Venus and Mars are more frequent present at the outset of relationships than it would be likely.
Anyway, it seems that there is something to the theory: Venus aspecting angles or angle-rulers, or angles / angelrulers aspecting themselves. We should keep an eye on these.
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posted November 10, 2009 08:42 AM
Dd id still count trines in chart/chart comparisons because easy aspects still create feelings. Its just when looking at progressions, solar arcs and even transits, for hard specific events, i only count hard aspects.I have noticed that at the beginning of a relationship has always been triggered by progressed venus trines. IP: Logged |
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posted November 10, 2009 08:46 AM
It's the clarity of the Solar Arcs I find unnerving. IP: Logged |
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posted November 10, 2009 09:14 AM
belgzyour aspects and chart do seem to point that strongly!! 
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posted November 10, 2009 09:21 AM
BM,yes SA can really be unnerving. Especially when I see those arcs of the outer planets and how perfectly they illustrate what has been going on in my life that year.
It is a bit chilly and creepy, HOW fitting they seemed! IP: Logged |
belgz
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posted November 10, 2009 09:36 AM
diandrareborn,Thnx now im extra excited. Everyones invited to my wedding! Though he hasnt proposed yet. Im assuming it will happen suddenly since uranus is dancing on my DC.
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posted November 10, 2009 11:08 AM
 dont forget to tell us when he proposedhihihi i´ll be having the Uranus near DSC only at the end of 2011.pluto will be in IC. in SR .. SRURANUS in 9H cj my nDSC
SR DC Falling into n5H
SR PLUTO 6H cj my IC
SR IC cj nASC
SR Valentine 5H cj Jupin 3rd
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posted November 10, 2009 12:00 PM
Belgz,I am keeping my fingers crossed that it will go as you wish. But let me be just a little bit of a wet blanket. You know that no aspect GUARANTEES marriage, don`t you?
It could also find different expressions.
So after having said that, back to the celebrations.
I am already awaiting the wedding invitation.
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posted November 10, 2009 02:01 PM
Yes, Belgz! Hope everything goes well for you! Wow, I love this topic! This is so fascinating... and I've been looking at my SR's in the years ahead just out of curiosity and my Solar Arcs... and what I found was...even though I'm not even thinking about marriage yet, either 2012 or 2013 according to the stereotypical marriage aspects, could be my marriage year! Although, I could be completely misinterpreting it:
2012: Solar Arc Venus exact conjunct Mercury (my AC ruler)
Solar Arc Mars exact conjunct Natal Venus
Solar Arc Eros conjunct Natal Psyche exact!
Solar Arc Moon Exact conjunct Natal Eros
Solar Arc Vertex smack dab on my DC conjunct Moon
Solar Arc Neptune (DC ruler) conjunct Natal Destinn, NN
Solar Arc Boda in the 1st
My Solar Arc MC and prog. AC line up exactly
Solar Arc AC exact conjunct Natal IC
Solar Arc Destin,NN exact conjunct Natal Groom
Solar Arc Briede conjunct Jupiter (IC ruler), Chiron
Solar Arc Pluto and Juno conjunct Natal IC
SR Venus in 7th
SR Vertex and Boda in 8th
SR Moon, Ceres, Mercury in 5th
Destinn conjunct valentine,Neptune (natal DC ruler) 2013: SA AC exact conjunct prog. Vertex
SA DC conjunct natal Union
SA Saturn conjunct Destinn,NN
SR Vertex exact conjunct DC
Saturn conjunct Boda in 7th
NN conjunct Psyche in 8th
Valentine conj. Destinn in 1st
Sun,Mercury,Venus,Mars,Union in 2nd The Vertex conjunct DC is what makes me think possibly 2013... IP: Logged |
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posted November 10, 2009 02:34 PM
I also checked my bf's... here is what I found...SA Venus conjunct Natal AC and Natal Vesta
SA Moon conjunct Natal AC
Prog. Sun (AC ruler) conjunct Juno
SA Groom conjunct Natal Moon
SA Moon conjunct Natal Boda
SA MC exact conjunct SA Briede
SA Jupiter exact conjunct Natal DC
SA Vertex conjunct SA MC
SA IC conjunct Natal Juno
SA Groom conjunct SA IC
Solar Arc Saturn conjunct Natal Uranus(DC ruler)
SA DC conjunct Natal Saturn, Mars
SR Moon conjunct DC
NN,Juno in 7th 2013:
SA AC exactly lines up with Natal AC
SA MC exactly lines up with Natal MC
SA NN,Chiron conjunct Natal Sun
SA Venus conjunct Pars Fortunae
SA Groom conjunct Juno
SA Saturn conjunct Natal Uranus exact (DC ruler)
SA Mars conjunct Natal Eros and Vertex
SA Jupiter conjunct Natal DC (applying)
SA Union, Destinn, Valentine conjunct IC
SA Venus conjunct Natal Boda
SR Vertex in 5th
SR DC conjunct Natal DC exact!
Saturn conjunct Boda exact! (same aspect I have)
Boda conjunct IC
Destinn conjunct Eros in 10th
What do you guys think?
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belgz
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posted November 10, 2009 06:59 PM
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posted November 11, 2009 08:09 AM
That's my solar arc and I'm not married. I been alone in 6 months now and meet many people but not anyone to be togheter with.SA pluto conj N valentine/Siva(Siva not exactly yet)
SA pluto sext N amor/wertex on GC
SA Briede conj N pluto '6 Sep SA Venus trine my MC '12Ap SA amor conj N DC '10 Ap
SA wertex con N DC '15 Ap SA BML conj N destin
SA Ceres conj N destin SA neptunus opposite N venus '18 S SA uranus sextil N BML/ceres
SA Kaali sextil N BML/ceres My 5 house ruler is pluto
My 7 house ruler is uranus In that aspect I would be married now but not... I do not like SA. For me I can't believe on it.
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belgz
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posted November 11, 2009 08:21 AM
you need something either touching ac,mc,dc or ic and you dont have that maybe thats why,also no venus or moon aspects. Can u post ur chart?IP: Logged |
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posted November 11, 2009 08:53 AM
Belgz,  It`s important to not lose sight on the basics; the asteroids and other planets will flesh the theme out, but if the skelletton (the basics) are not there, there is nothing to flesh out.
Also, two other thoughts:
1. Even if all people, who are getting married, will have such SA-connections (Venus, ASC, DESC, MC; IC), it does not mean, that everyone with such an aspect will be getting married in every case. The chance is just higher than at other times without these SA-connections. 2. In my personal opinion you need a so called hard aspect (conjunction, opposition, square) to trigger an event This is different from a relationship between two people, in which the softer aspects will play a role, too (even though, even in relationships the conjunction, square and opposition will be louder than the mild aspects).
In progressed synastry the trine between Sun and Venus and Venus and Mars seems to play a vital role; the same apparently can`t be said for the sextile, which is more of a friendship aspect.
The sextile is a nice, pleasant aspect, and you usually get along well with people you "sextile".
The shortcoming is that stronger aspects will usually trump the sextile.
Which means, you can probably have a relationship based on sextiles, which works fine, UNTIL someone comes along, having stronger aspects to you. Of course it also depends on your personal preferences. If you want a relationship, that is more built on friendship and mutual assistance than on great similiarity or sizzling attraction, than a sextile-relationship might be the right one for you. IP: Logged |
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