posted January 02, 2010 08:23 PM              

My ex's Sun conjuncts my Saturn in Cancer 4th house. I cant get away from him even if I want to.

I no longer speak to him or see him but we are still tied psychically. I always know when he's going to call my mobile. It makes me feel ill.

posted January 03, 2010 10:01 AM            

Unfortunately I usually get involved in the latter.

One binding factor for me is Saturn square Venus .. but it is hurtful/stressful and is also a breaking factor. Binding and breaking... I don't know how that's possible but it is!

I have this with one ex who I have a deep connection to but I have decided that I cannot be with him (married). This is the person who I have come closest to being married to and also my longest relationship. This has swung back and forth BOTH ways over the years... at the start it was him (the Venus) who couldn't commit fully, now it's me (the Saturn) who won't. Though I'm not likely to be swayed back. We ended 2.5 years ago but a year ago after to-ing and fro-ing I made my mind up once I met someone else. But we want to remain in each other's lives for the rest of our lives and we have both said this. I couldn't imagine my life without him in it somewhere! We also have Saturn (mine) square Moon, Saturn sextile Saturn, Saturn (mine) trine Sun, Saturn (his) trine Jupiter, Saturn (his) square Uranus, Saturn (his) trine Venus.

I recently came out of a r.ship with a Saturn Square Venus (mine) and Saturn square Saturn. What I read was Saturn sq Saturn is like when you have a bad day no matter what you say or do the other person will take offence. I don't think it's all doom and gloom and I didn't really feel this (but I think he felt it.. I always tried to come up with suggestions to fix problems he was having) but maybe his Saturn squaring my Venus he may have gotten annoyed perhaps with my 'immaturity'?? I have felt both sides of that aspect and that's how the Saturn person feels in my experience. In any case I feel we are bonded deeply on a soul level like suggested by someone else. Time will tell if this is to continue though. I find Saturn contacts interesting as I always have them with significant relationships. I have blocked him for the moment but I know this bond is one of the strongest I've ever had. It's a very soulful connection.. and I know he felt it too.

Another ex, my first serious BF, keeps on wanting to catch up with me but I never get around to making a date! Just as friends of course. He's matured a lot now too and hopefully isn't as Scorpionic as he once was! I am happy to have contact with him, and he has been a good 'listener' (over the net) to me. My Saturn conjunct his Sun and Mercury. Saturns are conjunct (he is 6 months older than me). This relationship happened 10 years ago and he is now engaged

Another person I have Saturn (mine) square Venus with doesn't have any wish to contact me but I have been curious about him.. but not enough to initiate any form of contact .. there'd be no point and I don't wish to pursue it further or bring up the past. We had a two year relationship that ended about 7 years ago.

posted January 03, 2010 06:53 PM            

I can only imagine the binding tie of Sun Conjunct Saturn...just look at the interpretation for the Trine from Cosmic Imperative:

"To make a wood flute that produces beautiful notes, the carver has to cut away pieces of the wood. If you think of the wood as being alive, this is a painful process, but the result is great beauty. In your relationship, the two of you are like the carver and the wood for the flute. You will force each other to see truths about yourselves, some of which you don't want to see and some of which you would rather not change. But in the relationship you will both be forcing and encouraging each other to make those necessary changes in your life to be happier and more productive. You may find the relationship confining and limiting, however, before you think about withdrawing from the relationship consider whether or not you really need to learn the discipline that this relationship encourages."

posted January 03, 2010 07:46 PM            

Friend 1: I'm 30, met her when I was 9. We lost touch when I moved a couple of years after meeting. Resumed friendship in our early 20s when on a whim I googled her and saw that she lived where I would be attending grad school. She was my first real best friend (more like just play pals before her). She's in my soul. All of these friends are. As soon as I met them it was like - "Where did you come from? You're exactly what I wish for!"

my Saturn square her Moon 0º

Friend 2: Met first day of 10th grade. We were together 6 months before I moved, and we've stayed in regular contact. I her so much. I see her the most often out of these friends, about 6-12 times a year.

my Saturn opp her Moon 1º
my Saturn square her Venus 3º

Friend 3: Met in 11th grade. I moved at the end of the school year.

my Saturn cnj her Moon 0º

What all 3 of these friendships have in common: During the bulk of our friendship we've had to deal with physical distance. The hard aspect might illustrate that frustration, but also the desire & determination to stay in touch.

Friend 4: Met when I was 17. Unlike the ones before her, we lived in the same area for years. We live far apart now but talk about twice a month and see each other 2 or 3 times a year, usually for a week at a time.

my Saturn opp her Moon 4º
my Saturn opp her Mercury 2º
also, my Saturn trine her Asc 0º

The trine with her ASC could illustrate the long period we got to live in the same space.

These are 4 of the most special people to me.

I have Saturn aspects with my close friends since them, but I'm just now noticing they're more often easy than hard. That would fit with the hard aspect showing, in my experience, the practical difficulties of dealing with physical separation.

posted January 03, 2010 08:05 PM            

With the first love -
I moved so the last 6 months of the relationship we were living 2 hours apart. During those 6 months, we saw each other one weekend a month, a few weekdays here and there when we skipped school, and for one week during the summer. We were only 16 , so it showed how committed we were to each other that we were even trying to make the relationship last. In a way, the distance did contribute to our break-up because it made it easy for mistrust to develop. More than physical, we split because of emotional distance that developed from both of us keeping too much unsaid.

About 6 years ago I randomly saw him, but hid before he could see me. The relationship didn't end well, and seeing him made me panic, not knowing how to be with him. Then about a year ago I wrote him a letter, and last summer we met up. Nice cathartic conversation and also - hot damn! That synastry is still alive and kicking! As much as I'd like to know him still, I'm smart enough to know my limits. I have to leave him in the past because we have the kind of chemistry that makes it hard to be just friends.

With the middle guy -
The official reason for us breaking up is because he was moving far away to grad school and I told him my experience with the first guy had left me anti long-distance relationships. The truth though is that I just wasn't attached to him enough to want to make it work. I wanted to be single.

With my SO -
We've had separations. We broke up for 6 months once, and also there was a school year when we lived in different cities so only saw each other 2 weekends a month. We've lived apart for much shorter periods also, for work reasons.

posted January 04, 2010 07:59 AM              

Would you believe he rang 1 hour after I posted that previous comment? Yeah you would.

posted January 04, 2010 11:03 AM            

these are the Saturn aspects I have with 'em:

North Node conjunct Saturn 19 Virgo 12'38" 12 Virgo 9'14" 7.05
Saturn sextile Sun 12 Virgo 12'25" 17 Scorpio 12'53" 5 +3
Saturn opposition Moon 12 Virgo 12'25" 17 Pisces 0'53" 4.8 -3
Saturn square Mercury 12 Virgo 12'25" 8 Sagittarius 47'52" 3.42 -2
Saturn sextile Venus 12 Virgo 12'25" 13 Scorpio 51'44" 1.65 +3
Saturn square Mars 12 Virgo 12'25" 5 Sagittarius 43' 8" 6.48 -4
Saturn conjunction Saturn 12 Virgo 12'25" 12 Virgo 9'14" 0.05 +2
Saturn sextile Uranus 12 Virgo 12'25" 16 Scorpio 45' 4" 4.55
Saturn square Neptune 12 Virgo 12'25" 16 Sagittarius 55'26" 4.72
Saturn trine Chiron 12 Virgo 12'25" 6 Taurus 54'58" 5.3
Saturn opposition Pholus 12 Virgo 12'25" 19 Pisces 12'54" 7
Saturn trine Vesta 12 Virgo 12'25" 12 Capricorn 34'57" 0.37
Juno opposition Saturn 9 Pisces 44' 1" 12 Virgo 9'14" 2.42

In our composite chart we have:
Saturn in the 9th house
Sun trine Saturn
Moon trine Saturn
Mercury Trine Saturn
Mars Trine Saturn
Venus square Saturn
Saturn Square Ascendant
Saturn Square Neptune

posted January 04, 2010 04:03 PM            

Also, in the example you gave, the person shares a saturn conjunction with your saturn, which means it amplifies whatever saturnian issues you already have with your own chart.

posted January 04, 2010 04:46 PM              

Whitney was the pride and joy of America and being gay was not what was needed... so, she married another gay - Bobby Brown

LOL

Same applies to Elle McPherson's marriage, Richard Gere and a whole load of other stars... nothing new there

posted January 04, 2010 05:32 PM            

i am curious to ask Belage, MsCandeh,

i have a double whammy saturn square venus aspect with somebody, (my saturn in a tighter square to her venus, less than 1 orb, her saturn squares my venus by 2 orb)

but her saturn trines my sun. we have no other saturn aspects apart from her saturn conjunct my uranus, and opposite my jupiter.

is she likely to hold on to me longer? Saturn is her 7th house ruler, and uranus is mine (so our 7th house rulers are conjunct by 1 orb or less) her saturn also conjuncts my Vertex.

she is the one who is seemingly more attatched to the idea of always being apart of my life, as friends at the least, and even said she'd want to be at my wedding (like she feels she is not worthy enough to have me forever so to speak)

is this the venus-square-saturn aspect kicking in?

we do criticize things now n then about us, but not harshly, and we always make up even better after, we have moon-venus aspect double whammy, jupiter - sun, jupiter-moon, and venus opposition venus (so i create a t square for her with my venus and saturn, and she enforces my t square with saturn/uranus)

hmmm

sorry for going off topic! was just curious.. i definitely say saturn is binding.

posted July 08, 2011 12:31 PM            

How are things now?
I think with saturn it is often both partners that hold on. It depends on how you deal with them that can make or break it.

I posted about 20 posts up.

MrGem - my ex from back then - he and I _still_ have a connection. It's screwed up but its a connection. He is one muthafluckaduck of a soulmate. Yes we have dream meetings We have some weird outer planet connections too (and plenty of great personal planet connections). My Saturn conjunct his Uranus, his Saturn trine my Uranus, Saturn square Saturn, his Saturn quincunx my Jupiter and the LOVELY Saturn square Venus. He is the Saturn.

The problem we are having is setting BOUNDARIES. My gosh. After the way he has acted in the past (and admittedly he starts being Saturn-like with me and then I go a bit crazy) ... I am the one trying to enforce boundaries of our interactions. He won't have a bar of it. I am like almost pleading with him ... if we are friends then DO NOT talk to me the way you do (suggestively) yet it is ignored. Yet I don't walk away. Yet we don't set boundaries and I can't help but speak with him in a loving nice (but unsure) way whenever he contacts me. I called him up all chirpy after we hadn't spoken for a month or two. I could hear the trembling in his voice... he was nervous as hell. We do this to EACH OTHER and at other times I am the stuttering idiot lol. When I get fed up of this game (remember I am the Venus lol) and start pulling away he comes back like a little kid. We aren't going ANYWHERE and it has been this same cycle for two godforsaken years just about! I am waiting for him. I know its a waste.. I have had a short lived relationship in the meantime and he has been with the same girl this entire time (they have not a huge lot in their synastry in comparison.. they have sun squ saturn though but I do not see anything that makes me go 'WOW they should be together foreeeeever', unlike what we have, astrologically speaking anyway!).
We are stuck in a time warp and it is just getting beyond a joke. I have invited him over to my new house for a drink after I move in. I am going to see if we can set some boundaries in person, in private. I am happy to be friends but we need boundaries.
I sound like the saturn now but when we speak I melt and I Feel like I am an absolute Venus (just like warm gooey caramel) ... so when I try to be all Saturn to him he rebels against it.. I hate being the saturn but I feel like its needed right now and he is being all elusive. I bet once I get sick of saturn and settle into venus role, then start to pull away he will reel me back in as usual. I see it happening but I cant stop it. Can you see this in our aspects?

The other person I am living with currently who is my ex as well - I spoke about him above (I said this "But we want to remain in each other's lives for the rest of our lives and we have both said this. I couldn't imagine my life without him in it somewhere! We also have Saturn (mine) square Moon, Saturn sextile Saturn, Saturn (mine) trine Sun, Saturn (his) trine Jupiter, Saturn (his) square Uranus, Saturn (his) trine Venus. "). He is the one I have Venus square Saturn with but *I* am the Saturn this time. What I said 18 months ago still stands. I moved in here about 10 months ago as a friend and as only a tempoaray solution until I found something more permanent. and I am leaving as a friend (though there was a period of confusion just after I moved in). We can have the worst fights and I cannot stand living with him on a daily basis, as he can be stubborn *and* unreliable (Pisces Sun Leo Moon .. gah!!!) but at the same time he can also dote on me and be very supportive and loving. This is what makes it hard with us. His bad qualities stress me out so much that I can't fathom being in a relationship with him. Being a good friend I can be somewhat detatched and less irritated with him.

I totally understand both viewpoints from Saturn's perspective.

Saturn wants the other person as much as the planet person. The *way* in which this manifests is dependant on other factors in the charts.

The Pisces guy and I will always be friends and I have convinced him we are not meant to be.. I feel so guilty though and I don't want him out of my life totally (though if he felt that was necessary then I would understand but I would be sad.. and I say this knowing I can't have my cake and eat it too).

Funny that it has been almost exactly 7 years since Pisces guy and I met.. and now I am finally separating from him .. we both feel it. 7 years - cycle of Saturn (saturn squares itself every 7 years). Definitely a karmic relationship but I feel like we worked through our karma and came to a decision that we love each other as great friends but not on a day-to-day husband/wife level. YAY for us!!! I feel like it is a natural time for us to separate but there are realy nice feelings there too. It is so good. We know the time has come and it's just right.

posted July 08, 2011 03:14 PM            

My best girlfriend... been besties for 7 yrs. We have both lived in different parts of the world at different times but was able to stay close. Like right now she is working on her Masters in Brussels and I'm in the US. We talk 4-7 days a week. My Saturn is opposite of her Venus. (by 3 degrees) Also, we have Saturn conj Venus (5 degrees)

My best female college friend... been friends for 11 yrs and just like above able to stay connected wherever we live. I don't talk to her as much as I do with the girl above but we have lived together and I moved across the country with her when she worked on her Masters so she wouldn't be alone. My Saturn squares her Venus (exact)

One of my best guy friends from college- we have been friends for 14 yrs and been able to keep in contact no matter where we are living in the world- we always come back to each other. We have talked about living together and we have talked about us being more. It's one of those relationships that we have to be touching the other whenever we are close to each other. The relationship has been more than friends for 18 months (and we live 6 hours a part). I keep trying to pull away/disconnect from the relationship but something always happens to bring us together, each time closer and deeper. His Saturn square my Venus. (exact) and my Saturn inconjuct- 150 his Venus (2 degrees) *also, Sun/Venus Trine double whammy, Pluto opp Venus, Neptune trine Venus, Uranus conj Venus (so we have some things to work on. lol)

High School student that I taught in 2002, in which after he graduated we became good friends, ended up living next door to each other for 2 yrs when I went back to college and we still talk 2-3 times a week and now that I have moved back to the area. We hang out 2-4 times a month. My Saturn opposite his Venus (2 degrees)