posted December 17, 2009 07:32 PM            

I've NEVER lied to any lover! I've never cheated! I've never promised anything I couldn't or wouldn't deliver!

I know 3 people personally who are Gemini's and are the same! Loyal to a fault and used and abused by almost every person they were ever in a relationship with. We might have all kinds of problems (depression, difficulties growing up, commitment problems) but being unfaithful or misleading on purpose isn't necessarily one of them.

My greatest hearbreak was a fish, then an Aries then a Scorp. So? Am I supposed to conclude they are all like that?

posted December 17, 2009 08:43 PM            

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The bitc4 had Mars 0 degrees Leo conjunct Mercury 29 degrees Cancer both tight opposition the Moon 29 degrees Capricorn.

Here's the $luts chart:

(*I edited the chart out, just in case it's edited out of the main post, because it features her name...)

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She has two aspects that match my chart: Venus in Gemini, conjunct the cusp of the 8th house, and a Scorpio ascendant. I'm about as far from a $lut as you can get, and, if anything, I need to feel more detachment when it comes to my relationships. I have a Fire sun, and I don't do well with games. (Actually, I have at least four planets in fire signs... once I get over initial skittishness, shyness diminishes, and I'm direct. I don't like to mess with people, and I don't like them messing with me.)

I see Neptune aspecting her Mercury/Mars and Moon, but am hesitant to blame that, for the same reason that most of those here stood up for Venus in Gemini. It's just one aspect, and not everyone with that aspect will misuse it. I'm sorry you were hurt.

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I live variety in life too, but that doesn't mean 'I need six boyfriends'. That's what I have hobbies for.....

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posted December 17, 2009 10:29 PM            

The life and thougths are changeable. That you talk about are people not sign and astrology. You have unreliable people in every sign.

If someone just hate venus gemini people I think they not feel the attraction.

posted December 18, 2009 02:33 AM            

He has cancer rising he's hurt as hell, and his Sag self is throwing a royal hissy fit, c'mon, we've all been there! Nothing like a Sag hissy fit, I'm just keepin it real.

Now, to be sensible, (no gem venus, just being sensible) there is no use to bash a placement, knowing full well there are others here who have that placement, and will be offended. If you would like a debate, you could chose your words a bit differently, and probably come away with alot of good advice.

*and take back that Cappy Moon statement, I'm stamping my Saggie sun/ Aries rising foot!!!! Take it back!!! If you found one cold enough to dislike that much, well, all I can say to that is, how did that much ice get you so fired up?????

posted December 18, 2009 04:40 AM            

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well everyones entitled to an opinion. And this is an open discussion and theres nothing wrong with verbalising your feelings but its not nice to wish evil on other people. I mean how nice would it be of me to wish another pisces, aries and scorpio fu*d u in the ass again

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ROFL, see, I'm a real Gemini - I APPRECIATE A FUNNY COMEBACK!
Why is the ass??? Ouch.

Don't worry popcorn, he feels the attraction. He's gonna meet many more Gemini Venuses and will be back to rant about shafting them and vice versa.

posted December 18, 2009 08:46 AM              

Heres one from meeee
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v9I8cf5x5M

posted December 18, 2009 09:47 AM              

i missed your sense of humour hihihi

well im sorry youve suffered for this woman.the fact that you call her those things only means that she hurted you ( maybe a lot).

i didnt knew you were a cancer asc,like my bfis a cancer asc i understand a bit what you are passing though...you re very sensitive and sweet then

and i really dont like to judge people but your post caught my attention and i need to say that the only gf my bf had before me...was a Venus Gem,with cancer Sun.

well.the way you talked avout her seems the way she acted with John too...she had huirted him deeply,the same way she did with you.and believe me or not,all the things she did to him,showed a very mean,cold and ice hearted person..today i still dont know how he-cancer asc-could be in a relatisonhip so urtfull and unfair.

I believe that they had some karmic business to resolve,and that when he was ready...he met me,his true love soulmate! he learned that REAL LOVE is a two thing.there are no place for manipulation,materialism,mind games and power plays.he learned that he needed to go awy from that relationthip in order to be happy annd free.

that is what you need to do too.

you deserve much better.

For all the venus in Gem - dont feel judged.cause you know who you are.

but really...this girl that my bf met...she was a person that only felt good,by manipulating and feeling she had power over everyone...it was a very Egoical Soul..

posted December 18, 2009 11:24 AM              

but believe me when i say that..although it takes time to forget...it is the best we can do,in what it concerns thos kind of experiences.

Right now you must be feeling pretty bad,angry,frustrated,thinking that she destroyed your life and the best part of you...?

the thing is...it is through this kind of experience that you will know your own strenght and what you DONT WANT in a relationship.

right now you really have all the power to conquer the things you do deserve and want in a relationship.

Be mad,be angry and rant and say all you need to get out of yourself.

But then,just let go.

If you give her the power to be too much time feeling like crap,she will be winning over you.

posted December 23, 2009 04:57 PM            

I've had two losers cheat on me and their gfs during this last uprunning year.

One was leo sun/mars, venus in gemini and moon in cap

the other gemini sun, mars scorpio, venus in gem and moon in cap.

I don't understand what they wanted from me, worse is they keep on coming back to me to make me suffer for giving in to them.

One of them just messaged me out of the clue though he knows I KNOW he has a gf and has been lying to me all throughout our courtship.

The other? well I just found out today. Thanks the wonders of facebook.

The worse is i'm mercurian/uranian/venusian but still the truth damn it has to be blurted out.

I am gutted.

The only thing i can do is keep on walking without any of them two.

Last funny thing, you are sagi sun, i am sagi moon.

posted December 25, 2009 07:55 AM              

this is from Skyviewzone

Venus in Gemini

Friendly, social and verbally charming, you love light-hearted conversation and a variety of social contacts. Geminis' love of variety has given this placement a reputation for fickleness. See how a butterfly flits from flower to flower? That's often the Venus in Gemini approach. Your genuine interest in other people makes you seem to be flirtatious to those who don't understand your need for social contact.

Seems that Venus in Gem by itself makes the person enjoy to be from one to the other person,like bees with honey.

maybe all those who were betrayed by a VenusInGem might do better on seeing how that Venus is aspected in their charts;the transits the person was having,etc.

for example ,in the case of my bf΄s exGf,her VenusGem was opose Moon/Merc/Uranus.and her venus was in 1st trine mars.

so she was attractive to others,and like to flirt.She used that to enjoy her natural GemVenus.this was coped with Uranus,in her 7th.Uranus semisq Saturn..so for her,commitmment was a serious issue for her.

then you have to see how the chart conects with your own:in the case of my bf,it was hard cause she had many power over him due to Pluto conection.therephore the power struggles,manipulation,tendency to control the other,to have what she wanted.

on MCM+S case,the woman had Sun sq pluto and uranus...along with plut sq venus,jup..she might also have control issues...that is bery hard to deal with,when the other tries to manipulate us and control us.that is not love,never is...and when we think are in love,we dont see it coming,we just see it when it is too late and we΄re already hurted.

posted December 25, 2009 12:36 PM            

same thing happened to me with a venus in gem

BUT there are venus in gems I know who are indeed loyal if they are in a satisfying (not long-distance or anything) committed relationship.

so I think we can't really be sure with them

posted December 25, 2009 08:16 PM            

yes it's just strange how they expect me to come back to them in full bloom and gleaming.
the weirdest is that i keep attracting guys with venus in gems at more or less the same degree (which is roughly 20°).
There's between 3 and 5 guys with venus in gemini at 20°... go figure.

None of my planets are at 20° in my chart apart from Neptune (which is not a such important planet for me).
Though my sun is in house 12 (my father was a dreamy musician with a moon in pisces).

the interesting thing you also point out swirl is the idea of a fulfilling relationship.

All those guys mostly are in relationship with women who live far away from them, and decide to get into love relations with me (and i also live afar from them).
They probably don't understand what they want.

posted December 25, 2009 08:36 PM              

(sorry to name you after a document app, lol)

What you have gone through with these women could be worth looking at from a more philosophical view point. That's hard to do if the wounds are still fresh.

Have you thought about what is it within yourself that may be attracting people with these placements into your life? I'm not saying that this is your fault, I'm just saying that this could be an unconscious drive, know what I mean?

I have the same problem with Cancer males & to look at my chart you can see that I have Saturn in 4th conjunct IC & SN, all in Cancer. As it works for me, well, I am drawn in by how much they care & at the same time I am put off by their emotional immaturity. (Yes I know I'm generalizing again, sorry Cancer men)

posted December 25, 2009 11:59 PM            

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A changeable, surface-dwelling, superficial, duplicitous, lying, fish.

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Woah! This almost sounds like a description for Satan herself. Unfortunately, I can clearly see these characteristics in the woman that I know. FREAKY!!! I had a theory about Venus / Mars on another post regarding maturity. I believe that a person needs to be able to properly integrate their Venus with their Mars before they can know and experience Love. This may be easier for someone who has a conjunction between their Venus / Mars, but I imagine for someone with say, Venus square Mars, it may take much longer with an increased level of difficulty. What say you Belgz?

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Not everyone is meant to have deep, intense love relationships. Speaking in general terms, Venus in Gemini people are here to experience light hearted and changeable affections. That doesn't make them non-human. Just don't expect loyalty and depth and true intensity from them, and you will be okay.

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I like this point of view Belage.