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MsCandeh
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posted January 07, 2010 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Diandra .. that sounds about right I think? If I wanted to see my May2009-May2010 year I can put any date in 2009 into the date box under Options.

I didn't know about solar returns until after I joined in August so when I put 2009 in then it showed the 2009/2010 year. I just assumed it showed 2009/2010 if I put any date up until before my May 2010 SR but I guess not! I swear that's how it worked before?!

I just tested it and that's how it appears to be working for me - any 2009 date gives the May09 - May10 year and any 2010 date gives me the May10 - May11 year.

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posted January 07, 2010 10:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When i posted here my SR Return it was told that there were probablilites of pregnancy too:

i have:

SR moon cj SR Pluto in SR 1st.falls into my n3rd

SR node 1stH falls into n5Th
SR AS ruler(Jupiter) SR 2ND falls into n5Th with nep and kiron
SR Jupiter cj natal Ceres
N Moon falls into SR 5Th
SR IC/PF falls into n7TH

ASTEROID´S WISE

SR ANgel cj nFelicitas
SR ABUNDANTIA/MARS 7H cj nCHild 9th
SR CHILD 7TH cj nAngel
SR Valentine 8Th cj nLifeson
SR LIFESON CJ SR CERES wide cj nASC 5º

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posted January 07, 2010 10:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

then it is allright!

nothing like comunicating properly to solve any doubt hihihi

(this coming from a 12th house merc..

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posted January 07, 2010 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll hihihihi to that too!

Yep that's why I was confused why 2010-2011 year (which is when I was told conception would happen - September/October this year) didn't show any indications ...

SR ASC conjuncts N4th cusp
SR chart ruler conjuncts N5th cusp
SR 4th ruler conjunct SR ASC
SR 5th ruler conjunct N5th ruler

but the other years had similar 4th/5th house themes (if not stronger).. oh god.. maybe I will be having babies every year! lol

we'll just have to see what happens hehe but it's interesting speculating!

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posted January 07, 2010 11:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm maybe in one of the years you will focus about that theme ( thinking and planning) and then only in the nezt you will conceive?

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posted January 07, 2010 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hrmmm... interesting! Especially for someone who is single hehehe

curious about pregnancy or child indications in the father's chart as well .. does it show differently as they do not actually get pregnant? I suppose they still conceive though!!

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posted January 07, 2010 11:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i was never pregnant so i dont really know but...

i suppose the man will show a concieving chart hihihi

hmm i dont know my brother+s time birth,,or i would look at it,as now he will have his 1st son.it was conceived last October.

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posted January 07, 2010 11:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We´re forgetting some very important asteroids

Ceres
Child 4580
LifeSon 19155

I would also look for these as to me,a coming of a child is a very deep and spiritual matter

Spirit 37452
Alma 390
Angel 11911

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posted January 07, 2010 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ooooh I forgot about those too! Didn't know abotu lifeson. Just checking them out now

I read angel sort of differently as well, spiritually but also as a name asteroid. (My middle name/nanna's name)

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posted January 07, 2010 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
natal Child - 24.23 Cancer cusp of 6th
natal Lifeson - 13.10 Virgo in 7th
natal Ceres - 22.12 Aries in 3rd

2010-2011:
Ceres in SR 8th conj SR Pluto
Child in SR 3rd conj natal DC
Lifeson in SR 7th conj natal Uranus

2011-2012:
Ceres in SR 7th
Child in SR 6th (cusp) conj natal Jupiter
Lifeson in SR 9th

2012-2013:
Ceres in SR 6th conj natal Venus
Child in SR 5th
Lifeson in SR 7th conj natal Vertex

hmmm from the other connections I mentioned earlier.. maybe conception is 2011 and pregnancy or birth in 2012!

So maybe the psychic was wrong.. though she seemed so convinced! I said "but... I'm not even in a relationship" then she said "well you must be in a serious relationship by then because this is what I'm seeing" ..

*sigh* .. I am too impatient now !

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posted January 07, 2010 12:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if i were you i would be too

But things happen like it should Be,isnt it?

the best we can do is ask that all happens by Divine Plan i guess..

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posted January 07, 2010 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hehe yes I am a great believer in that! What will be, will be.

I will probably forget about it (sort of) in the next few weeks anyway. I'm not one of those people who is told something by a psychic and then hangs on to every word willing it on! But I know she is very accurate. She said to me that afternonon.. suddently changed the direction of the reading and said "I'm being shown a baby. A baby is right in front of me. Someone has given birth" ... my cousin had given birth at 6.23 that morning and I didn't know but checked facebook when I got home and lo and behold a message had been posted on FB by her husband while I was out! She knew this amongst other things and is very good!!

Ahhhh... the wait!!

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posted January 07, 2010 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jenfullmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diana said: "I have a stellium in my SR that happens soon and I do not want a baby. Ruler of SR 5th is uranus and is completely unaspected in the 5th 6th too, making it stronger.
For me, it may just mean I will meet someone or get really creative, because I've decided I never want children."

Hear, hear. I have Pluto and Ceres and Vertex and PoF all conjunct in the SR fifth house, AND transiting Uranus heading through the fifth, and all I hear is "you could get pregnant, pregnant, pregnant" and I don't wanna.

I am permanently single though (and stay on birth control anyway, just in case), so man, is that ever not wanted. I'm actually happy to stay celibate for 2010/until Uranus leaves my fifth.

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posted January 07, 2010 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read somewhere that the Vertex and Pluto in the 5th house of your SR chart means a pregnancy. It worked for my mom.

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posted January 07, 2010 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for milyi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you think of this SR?


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posted January 07, 2010 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi milyi,

can you please post natal and solar return with houses?

4th house ruler (Pluto) is in 5th along with NN in 5th (just like my 2011 one) but I'm curious to see how it links into your natal. For me my natal 5th ruler (Mercury) was conjunct by the SR Venus-Jupiter-Mercury. Jupiter, your SR 5th house ruler, is in your SR 8th house though, but it is aspecting Pluto exactly in the SR 5th. SR chart ruler is in 11th though ... I'm seeing more of a love connection through a group of people you know? 4th ruler in 5th though may indicate otherwise regarding conceiving.. again I've only just started looking in at this maybe other people can give you a more accurate interpretation.

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posted January 08, 2010 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for milyi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted January 09, 2010 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi... as I said I'm not really good at this... but I'll give it a go anyway.

I just noticed your SR 4th ruler and SR 5th ruler are in exact square aspect.. could indicate something happening along 4th and 5th houes issues for 2010/2011.

Natal 5th is Mercruy ruled which is in your SR 12th house.. rules your SR 2nd and 11th. Finances and friends/groups... but Mercury is trine Jupiter in the SR ... 5th house and Jupiter interactions are supposed to be good energies for conceiving.. but it's a loose trine as well.. but tied in with Jupiter ruling the SR 5th... that could definitely indicate something happening in the house of children, romance, fun

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posted January 09, 2010 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for milyi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MsCandeh, thank you. There is no way I will get pregnant, so it could have something to do with fun, maybe romance.

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posted January 09, 2010 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amphitrite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was looking through my SR charts for the next few years, and I came across a couple of different years that I thought perhaps could indicate pregnancy and so I wondered if I could get your thoughts given we have this topic going already.

The first chart is for 2011-2012 which I will post below. The reason I thought that this chart indicates a possible pregnancy is due to the following aspects:

SR 4th house ruler uranus in SR 5th house
SR 5th house ruler neptune in SR 4th house
SR mars conjunct ascendant
SR NN conjunct SR ascendant
SR 4th house ruler uranus opposite sun
SR venus conjunct natal jupiter
SR saturn conjunct natal jupiter
SR jupiter trine SR pluto

The next chart that I thought could also indicate pregnancy (posted below) was SR 2015-2016. The reason I thought this was because of the following aspects:

SR 4th house ruler uranus in SR 5th house
SR 5th house ruler neptune un SR 4th house
SR moon opposite natal moon
SR jupiter conjunct natal moon
SR NN conjunct sun
SR saturn conjunct natal uranus (SR 4th house ruler)
SR 4th house ruler uranus opposite natal jupiter
SR ascendant in natal 4th house
SR chart ruler is Jupiter
Natal neptune (SR 5th house ruler) in SR first house

I also noticed during this solar return period that the total solar eclipse (9th March 2016) at 18 degrees pisces conjuncts my SR moon, and the following solar eclipse (1st sept 2016) at 9 degrees virgo conjuncts my SR jupiter. I'm not sure how much the eclipses mean in this instance.

Perhaps these are both pregnancy years or maybe not. It would be great to know your thoughts.

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posted January 10, 2010 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amphitrite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also just noticed that for SR period 2011-12 that SR moon is conjunct my sun/moon midpoint by 1 degree.

I also looked at progression and solar arc aspects during this time period that I thought may have something to do with pregnancy (maybe aspects with jupiter and moon, pluto, IC)and I have the following aspects:

progressed moon conjunct natal jupiter (0)
progressed sun sextile natal CHILD (0)

SA Jupiter conjunct natal venus (0)
SA pluto conjunct natal IC (0)
SA CHILD conjunct natal DC (1)
SA vertex opposite natal sun (0)

Does anybody know of any specific progressed or solar arc aspects present during times of pregnancy? Any thoughts most welcome, thank you.

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Looks like you got the hang of it Amphitrite

The first chart out of the 2 looks like the pregnancy will happen in that year some time. It can even happen in the last month.

The SR ascendant is also in the natal 5th. That one is a perfect example of pregnancy.


SA aspects during pregnancy are the same as marriage aspects.

SA venus aspecting AC MC or IC

SA venus aspecting sun

SA venus aspecting moon

SA venus aspecting jupiter/ASC

Noel tyl claims that Jupiter/ASC shows pregnancy.

Jupiter/moon could also work...

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posted January 10, 2010 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amphitrite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for taking a look, belgz.

I guess as far as SA pregnancy aspects go, jupiter is probably most important because it is the ruler of my natal 5th house, and maybe pluto because it is the ruler of my natal 4th house.

So for 2011-12 with:

progressed jupiter conjunct pluto (0)
progressed moon conjunct midpoint natal jupiter/pluto (0)

SA moon conjunct natal jupiter (0)
SA Jupiter conjunct natal venus (0)
SA pluto conjunct natal IC (0)
SA venus sextile natal jupiter (1)
SA IC conjunct natal neptune (ruler of 8th house) (0)
SA Descendant conjunct natal vertex (0)

During the 2015-16 period, the SA and progressed aspects are as follows:

progressed venus conjunct natal neptune (8th house ruler (1)
progressed saturn conjunct natal jupiter (1)

SA moon conjunct natal jupiter/pluto midpoint (0)
SA venus conjunct natal neptune (2)
SA jupiter conjunct natal IC (2)
SA saturn conjunct natal venus (1)
SA pluto conjunct natal uranus (0)

I guess there are a few jupiter aspects during both time periods. Interesting..

Does anybody know the types of aspects that may appear in the SA or progressed chart, or even SR chart of a man's chart to suggest he is going to be a father?

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posted January 10, 2010 10:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2011-2012 solar arcs show exact aspects. Especially to the IC.
Congratz on ur baby from now hehe

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posted January 10, 2010 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amphitrite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Belgz it's a little hard to imagine because i'm not even in a relationship at the moment, nor do I know anyone I am remotely interested in, so I guess it will be interesting times ahead. Something to look forward to...

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